Black People : Secret State’s Domestic Spying on the Rise

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  1. Mad Skillz

    Mad Skillz Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    "Domestic spying under the Bush administration is fascist and unconstitutional. Domestic spying under the Obama administration is a necessary evil."

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    Despite last week’s “termination” of America’s bête noire, Osama bin Laden, the reputed “emir” and old “new Hitler” of the Afghan-Arab database of disposable Western intelligence assets known as al-Qaeda, Secrecy News reports an uptick in domestic spying.

    Never mind that the administration is engaged in an unprecedented war on whistleblowers, or is systematically targeting antiwar and solidarity activists with trumped-up charges connected to the “material support of terrorism,” as last Fall’s multi-state raids on anarchists and socialists in Chicago and Minneapolis attest.

    In order to do their best to “keep us safe,” Team Obama is busily building upon the criminal legacy bequeathed to the administration by the Bush regime and even asserts the right to assassinate American citizens “without a whiff of due process,” as Salon’s Glenn Greenwald points out.

    According to a new Justice Department report submitted to Congress we learn that “during calendar year 2010, the Government made 1,579 applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (hereinafter ‘FISC’) for authority to conduct electronic surveillance and/or physical searches” on what U.S. security agencies allege are “for foreign intelligence purposes.”

    The April 29 missive, released under the Freedom of Information Act, documents the persistence of our internal security apparat’s targeting of domestic political opponents, under color of rooting out “terrorists.”

    Secrecy News analyst Steven Aftergood comments that “this compares to a reported 1,376 applications in 2009. (In 2008, however, the reported figure–2,082–was quite a bit higher.)”

    “In 2010,” Aftergood writes, “the government made 96 applications for access to business records (and ‘tangible things’) for foreign intelligence purposes, up from 21 applications in 2009.”

    Also last year, America’s premier domestic intelligence agency, the FBI, “made 24,287 ‘national security letter’ requests for information pertaining to 14,212 different U.S. persons, a substantial increase from the 2009 level of 14,788 NSL requests concerning 6,114 U.S. persons. (In 2008, the number of NSL requests was 24,744, pertaining to 7,225 persons.)”

    As I have pointed out many times, national security letters are onerous lettres de cachet, secretive administrative subpoenas with built-in gag orders used by the Bureau to seize records from third-parties such as banks, libraries and telecommunications providers without any judicial process whatsoever, not to mention the expenditure of scarce tax dollars to spy on the American people.


    http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/05/secret-states-domestic-spying-on-the-rise/
     
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    Brother OldSoul has been saying the following, for most all the years he's been here ... long before Obama became President.

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    Operate as if every thing you say and do, is being recorded, and that you will hear or see it again.​


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    When one is subject to another people's system ... well ... you're subject to it ... until you come up with a way of not being subject to it.

    If you know some ways we can not be subject to it, please let us know.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    peace


    Since Obama supporters are always complaining about how those who think freely talk bad about him and his supporters. I would just like to take this opportunity to thank you for continuing to support:


    "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN"

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    - don't they look like one happy 'family of brothers'.....
     
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    I'm a Black Man Supporter ... and Obama is a Black Man.

    You'll be hard pressed to find any Black Man being overwhelmingly disparaged in this community, and i don't come in, trying to counter the behavior.

    It could be any Black Man, and i'm going to do my very best, to focus on his positives.

    That's just how i live.

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    I hear many people complain about the government / Big Brother tracking every move we make and taking part in the invasion of our privacy in the name of "National Security", and I share in their anger and frustration. But it also gets me to thinking. Many of the same people who complain about this issue will put every single detail about their lives out there for the world to see via Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, texting, e-mail, etc.

    About two weeks ago it was announced that Apple's IPhone has the ability to secretly track and keep a record of every move you make and can store this information for up to 1 year. I watched a news reporter ask people on the street if this concerned them and the vast majority of them didn't really care one way or the other. Only one or two of them expressed a slight concern. None were concerned enough to give up their IPhone.

    Google keeps a record of every single search ever made by every single person that has ever used it since it's inception, and stores this data INDEFINITELY. They have no intention of deleting it. And there is currently no law or regulation preventing the government from getting their hands on that info. Just Google's "promise" that this info will not make it into the hands of the government. (yeah right, lol)

    So I guess my question is, how much good would it really do to reverse the government's policy on domestic spying if we're just going to turn around and VOLUNTARILY give them that same information anyway?

    Are we serious enough about protecting our right to privacy to give up our modern conveniences in the name of keeping the government's eyes and ears out of our business? If not then doesn't that defeat the whole purpose?

    Not saying that I agree with domestic spying, not at all. Just playing devil's advocate...
     
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