I hear ya, Khasm, but you will find that a lot of women do enjoy this "pagan" holiday. Now, I can only speak for myself. But I rarely do anything solely to impress girlfriends, and keeping up with the joneses, well, it's hard enough keepin up with my own eccentric self. I know some want a fortune spent on them, but that's so not necessary. I like giving gifts as well, not just receiving. Anyway, it takes all different opinions to make up a world. Peace.