Ruling Over a Woman

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  1. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    Sister Sharazad Ali tells us Black women have not been under the rule of Black men in 500 years.,

    http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=540392&postcount=4

    This is true but sistah is leaving out an important element. The readiness of many Black men to rule over Black women.

    Until a man has rule over himself his attempts to rule over a woman will be nothing more than an expression of his insecurities. Ruling over oneself does not necessarily mean having wealth, riches or white privilege. If how a man treats his woman is any indication then white men are very insecure just in a different way from Black men. Many Black men are afraid they will never have what white men have. White men are afraid they will lose what they have so their treatment of women and everyone else is an effort to ensure they will never suffer such a lose.

    This is why some brothas run to white woman because there aren't too many Black women who are willing to tiptoe around the egos of men who cannot provide for or protect them but still insist on being obeyed and depended on.

    I don't say these things to criticize Black men but to help you understand that which Ali is unable to express because of her Muslim worldview. Why trade the standards of one slave mast for the standards of another and expect to find the answer you need to heal?

    Love your women as we are and let us be who we are: strong, resourceful, resolute, independent. We're not going to lose what we have or dumb down to save your egos. It's just not going to happen. But we will support your efforts to get your own. Yes, there are many sistas who have a long way to go as well. People who are dedicated to their own personal growth will recognize each other and gravitate towards each other.

    He who conquers the enemy within need not fear the enemy without.
    African Proverb
     
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    Well! So much food in that thought i didn't even have to view the clip.
    Very wise words Sister River!:heart:

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    Purple,

    Are you sure you don't want to take just a few notes?

     
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    :qqb009:i have never had a desire to rule over anybody....
     
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    I'll be coming back in here to read more, no doubt. But my Sister River said whole heartful. Got to digest all that she said first and put it in my data bank.

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    Then you got a leg up on those who do.
     
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    Just teasing, you are good!

     
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    This is true but sistah is leaving out an important element. The readiness of many Black men to rule over Black women. There have been many periods in modern history where men were more than qualified and did "rule" as the poor choice of words put in in their households. It could just as easily be argued that females today, are not willing to do what the women of old did to get a man that was willing to work himself into bad health to provide her with the things hse wanted and needed in life. Moreover, it could be argued if there are females today that would even appreciate a brother like that. But that digresses from the point.

    I submit that women have always did the chosing. Therefore, the product that they are chosing ( metrosexual, DL, thug appeal, trfflin, etc ) may not measure up to manhood from day one. Moreover, your premise assumes the modern female is really interested in a permanent mate. The oow birth rates over the last 20 years and Glouchester, Mass would seem to say that premise is a false one today. Morality issues aside. The real questions are:

    1. Do sisters really know what a man is?

    2. Is that fact that so many are choosing not to mate with a man mean that they really dont want one?

    3. Are sisters woman enough to attract a man?

    4. Has the acceptance of the myth that a female can raise a man created now two generations of manhood?

    5. Is the unwillingness of females to admit the remote possibility that they have been wrong the last two decades part of the problem? ( Before the gender defeders come out, this goes to the opening set up as opposed to the overall relationship question(s) )

    6. Do men and Mookie today, find it easier to go with the flow and skip when things get tough?

    Marriage is a rarity in our community today, so the data shows. In fact, it is fast becoming rare in overall society., Thus, the nominated publican VPs daughter.








     
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    This is why some brothas run to white woman because there aren't too many Black women who are willing to tiptoe around the egos of men who cannot provide for or protect them but still insist on being obeyed and depended on.
    Let's destroy this myth. Right here and right now! The overwhelming majority of Black Men are with Black women, +95%. Please quit spouting this out right lie!!!!!!!!! And while you're at it, get rid of all the other lies yall like to spout too.



    I don't say these things to criticize Black men but to help you understand that which Ali is unable to express because of her Muslim worldview. Why trade the standards of one slave mast for the standards of another and expect to find the answer you need to heal?Why would you blame what she says on her religion? Why not take it on face value then evaluate it. Ify you know many sisters out there that fit the category, why do you feel the need to lump them in with you? Why not go out, as she suggests and correct them?





    Love your women as we are and let us be who we are: strong, resourceful, resolute, independent. We're not going to lose what we have or dumb down to save your egos. It's just not going to happen. But we will support your efforts to get your own. Yes, there are many sistas who have a long way to go as well. People who are dedicated to their own personal growth will recognize each other and gravitate towards each other. I wont even justify this myth with a comment, save one. Do you actually think men dont dumb down things not to hurt your precious feelings/egos??????







     
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    that white-brained "rule over" mess is what has this planet in the environmental mess it is in now, so how valid is the concept?

    rule with - we were created as a team!
     
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