Black People : Repatriation now not Reparations.

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  1. KingSango

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    Greetings, family, how are yall doing today? I come to you today to discuss an issue that has been burning in my heart for a while now, as I've gathered what most on this site are about I want to present something of my own desire. I know many people here are in support of investing in America which ultimately means some of you believe reparations will be given to African-Americans. My contention is this isn't so and not only do I believe reparations aren't needed or necessary for us to invest anywhere in America or abroad, nor it is necessary for us to address the poverty in our communities. But returning to Africa could be the strong catalyst for the change in economic dynamics we all seek thereby increasing our strength and power of unity on many fronts.

    I describe Black Nationalism as a belief in a Black governed nation, where we don't have to contend with racist bigots making racist laws, nor heavily handily enforcing them towards us. Also we would be captaining industry within our own borders, thus reaping 100% profit from our efforts, we would be in control of our own educational institutions and our own national healthcare. There are many benefits to ruling over ourselves and I'm sure I just scratched the surface of the many that exist. Black Nationalism can work within the right framework, I believe that proper framework would be repatriation, a seaming less return to Africa one that builds up slowly from a settlement, town, city to an actual established kingdom within the confines of an existing Africa nation.

    Now some might want to question my ideas of putting us within the confines of existing African nation, this is exactly what we need because Africa has far too many states as it is. And we would be adding to the confusion of a dis-unified Africa that currently is experiencing border disputes because Europeans colonized and drew up maps of Africa with no regard to 1000s of years of existing kingdom borders and established cultural and ethnic territories. A kingdom is easier to manage than a state, thus less government provides a lesser tax collection and broader capability to focus upon capital improvement projects.

    Our success educationally, industrially and politically is based upon the protection of kingdom founded by ourselves. And the kingdom can be nowhere else but in Africa due to the numerous reasons with basic living being the most generous. Owning land in Africa where there's no tax for many years to allow us to be able to grow our economy, owning land that is fertile, we farm and feed ourselves thereby saving money and having more available to invest. Building homes and facility buildings for ourselves which there is no property tax. Elimination of electricity by going solar with our settlement, Africa has the highest daily solar radiation on the planet, expanding that industry outwards with our external growth. Getting our fair share of natural resources that are making some African countries the fastest growing economies in the world. I can't say more to how successful we shall be on the continent with our brothers and sisters and neighbors in the region, gaining cooperation and networking for a unified and regenerated Africa.

    I am open for debate on this topic, please reply intelligently and give me your objections, advice or likes.
     
  2. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    Liberia failed because the U.S bailed out and stop supporting them, they had no industry so those people resulted to enslaving each other. Grants and reparations and such are all connected to Whites and they will want a say in how you do things, who is in control and who we can include as a friend or enemy, it seems like some of us never want to be free.

    There's enough money in the pockets of African Americans to start in Africa by ourselves with the cooperation of several African nations in the region we choose. For instance, 1 billion collected from 1 million poor persons, per day equals $2.77 each person, that's nothing, monthly costs = 83 dollars and yearly is 996 dollars. That's just if we saved for one year then invested the money in farming and other industries thus preparing the way to Africa. Most of you spend that much on phone bills, internet services, now this new Obama-care will be digging in our pockets soon. Even if some can't afford the 83 dollar monthly most can and we should still have around a billion which is more than enough to get the material and supplies from Asia where it is cheaper, then have investing going that will also put dividends into this public fund. Not to mention there are wealthy African philanthropists who would be willing to help especially if we used some our wealth for the region as well.

    Asking White people is putting them in charge again, reparations, grants or monetary loans.
     
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    1 is this some kind of eltiist idea, since only 8% of Africans here have the skills to leave and go set up there !
    2 What nation could accomodate even half of us here , with 50% unemployment when there is such high unemployemtn in all nations there already

    3 Even though we here have the luxury of not dealing with the every day corrution and extoriton in African nations as a part of doping business every day

    if we dont like extortion from the White man what in the world would make you think we would be comfortable to endure evil from our own Black sister and brother in a Black nation???

    4 98% of us here are Christian and Muslim, and do not know our tribe. about 80% Christian and the rest Muslim and ATR and aetheist, so if Africans have xenophobia to those they see everyday of other tribes, how will they treat us when we get there???
     
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    More like pipe dreams without a plan, Alarm Clock.

     
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    I see KingShango is here, not forcing anyone to "chat speed" but if there is no response


    then I will log off!
     
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    There's nothing elitist about this plan nor is it a pipe dream, you see this is why Pan-Africanism and Black Nationalism never took off on anything tangible. Because many of you are skeptics with no end and against your own good, I can't be responsible for your negative insights and try to dispel everyone of them but I will try to dispel some for sake of clarity of what I've already written. You have a tendency to cloud issues with skepticism and doubt which is not constructive and can be considered saboteur, but I digress.

    1.& 2. There's no way we can take every African in diaspora back to Africa, I think I've said this before but it gets deliberately ignored in order to continue with this rigid opposition to any action taken. I don't want to take every African back to Africa, some will never adjust or be no good to us productively wise.

    3. African Americans according to African American Att. General Eric Holder already live separate of White Americans, this is a segregated nation in case you forgot, we basically don't deal with each other typically on the social and religious level. And if we can do business with corrupt as White Americans where we still get the short end of the stick then we can do business with our African brothers and sisters where we got the world to gain. Somehow I'm getting the Whiteman's ice is colder than ours from you Alarm Clock and Mr. Clyde. Or white women are so much ladylike compared to Blackwomen or Whitemen marry their women while Blackmen only want to screw. It always seems we can't get passed our lack of faith in one another as we elevate Whites above us morally, or is this just convenient for when we're spending everyday talking about the Whitemans' corruption and injustice only when it comes to Africa we switch the immorality back to ourselves.

    4. Join a tribe, create our own tribe, hell work with them by being humanitarian, if White Christian missionaries can go to Africa get cooperation and work with the people why can't we? Your negatives are yours not mine but more importantly you're always carping and being a nuisance Alarm Clock for any action that has nothing do with nothing but your ego.
     
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    No you are getting nothing but a digestion of your own vomit, because if you were serious about debate you would have said this, last night instead of early thins morning when you had your courage flakes and milk!

    Dont make personal accusations about me because you do not know me and you are not i9n my league

    Number one, you answered absolutly nothing which means that you are on some sort of ego trip about your ideas

    but I will give you a chance now

    1 exactly what percentage of the Black population here do you feel need to repatriate instead of get reperations?



    2 exactly what nation do you feel or know is ready right now to take these folks in as citizens?

    2 Simple questions now I want to see how you can handle this without alot of rhetoric,. skirting the issue or personal attacks or assumptions about what I think or believe!
     
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    I will wait 15 minutes for a response if you need that much time to make yourself a bowl of courage stew, after that I will log off!
     
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    1. Those who want to return, who are physically, morally and spiritually able, who are willing to contribute something.

    2. Any nation willing to offer land for a settlement and encourage cooperation and commerce.

    There no rhetoric.
     
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