Black Spirituality Religion : Remembering the Titans!

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    The fact that H.P. Lovecraft's "Great Old Ones" ruled over Atlantis is quite clear, as their city, called "R" 'Lyeh" in the story, is covered with what Lovecraft describes as "cyclopean" architecture, the same word used by author Ignatious Donnelly (Atlantis: The Antidiluvian World) to describe the architecture of Atlantis. Lovecraft's descriptions paint a picture of multi-dimensional, non-Euclidean angles. as if they existed in a space-time different than our own, perhaps in an "otherworld" somewhere in between the planes of Heaven and Earth. They are described as grand and mighty creatures, with a moreal creed similar to that of Aleister Crowley's "Do what thou wilt", and they trounced on all those weaker than them, bringing destruction to the Earth, devouring every living thing. This is exactly the behavior that is ascribed to the sons of the Watchers, or Nephilim, the giants who wrought havoc upon the world, oppressed and devoured all of the gods' living creation to feed their own voracious appetites. Because of the pride and destructive behavior of the Great Old Ones, their empire city, R'lyeh, sank beneath the ocean as part of a punishment by natural disaster mercifully imposed by "God". This is exactly what is said to have happened to the island kingdom of Atlantis, which also sank because of the pride of it inhabitants. It is also what is said about the Nephilim in the Bible, who along with their offspring, were destroyed by God via the Flood of Noah. The fact that the Great Old Ones are lead by a being called "Cthulhu" is significant, for "Thule" is another name for Atlantis, and the Nazis believed it was literally located inside the Earth in the "underworld", the city of "Agartha" or "Agade", the "the abode of the Gods."

    The "Hollow Earth", or underworld seems to be the place where R'lyeh ultimately sank to, where Cthulhu and the rest of the Great Old Ones now remain, sleeping in their water tomb, "DEAD BUT DREAMING", as Lovecraft now describes it. There they are waiting for the day when they will awaken, their city will rise from the waves, and their empire once again hold dominion over the whole "Earth". This echoes the story of the Watchers or the Nephilim, who were said to be imprisoned by God inside the Earth, or in "the Abyss", which is a word used by the ancients to describe the ocean. The theme of a subterranean Lord, imprisoned in the underworld, who will one day awaken from this death-like slumber to reclaim his kingdom is a very common archetype, most notable in the form of Kronos. Called "the forgotten Father" and "the hidden one". Kronos was a leader of the Titans and the king of Atlantis, whose Kingdom was cast down into the Abyss, and who was imprisoned therein, to be thereafter known as 'the Dark Lord" of the underworld or Tartarus. And there seems to be an etymological connection between "Titan" and "Teitan". otherwise spelled as "Satan". The Titans and the Nephilim are clearly the same as the Great Old Ones, and Kronos, otherwise known as Saturn, is clearly Cthulhu. He is also synonymous with Dagon or Oannes, who is referred to in the bible as Leviathan, the beast who will rise from the sea at the Apocalypse. The return of Cthulhu, the Great Old Ones, and the city of R'lyeh would appear to be Lovecraft's way of depicting the Apocalypse.

    Confirmation of the above conclusions can be found by examining quotations from Lovecraft's manuscript, the implications of which, in light of what has just been said, will be self-explanatory. When the main character in The Call of Cthulhu manages to interview an actual member of the Cthulhu cult to determine their beliefs, the descriptions that follow parallel precisely the tales of the Nephilim, the Titans, and the war in Heaven between God and Lucifer, as well as the fall of the Atlantean empire:

    "They worshipped, so they said, the Great Old Ones, who lived ages before there were any men, and who came to the young world out of the sky. These old ones were gone now, inside the earth and under the sea; but their dead bodies had told their secrets to the first man, who formed a cult which had never died. This was that cult, and the prisioners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in the distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the Great Priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters should rise and bring the earth again under his sway. Some day he would call, when the stars were ready, and the secret cult would always be ready to liberate him

    Meanwhile, no more must be told. There was a secret which even torture could not extract. Mankind was not absolutey alone amongst the concious things on the Earth, for shapes came out of the dark to visit the faithful few. But these were not the Great Old Ones. No man had ever seen the Old Ones. The carven symbol was the great Cthulhu, but none might say whether or not the others were precisely like him. No one would read the old writing now, but things were told by word of mouth. The chanted ritual was not the secret - that was never spoken aloud, only whispered. The chant meant only this: In his house at R'lyeh. dead Cthulhu waits dreaming

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    Part 2

    "Old Castro remembered bits of a hideous legend that pale the speculations of Theosophists and made man and the world seem recent and transient indeed. There had been eons when other things ruled Earth, and they had great cities. Remains of them...were still to be found as Cyclopaen stones on Islands in the Pacific. They all died vast epochs of time before man came, but there were arts which could revive them when the stars had come around again to the right positions in the cycle of eternity. They had indeed come themselves from the stars, and brought their images with them.

    Lovecraft, like the prophet Enoch, and like ancient man himself, conceived of the Atlantean gods of Nephilim as possessing supernatural power, and, like Enoch, says that this power comes from the stars - that these beings in fact had come from the stars themselves, and seem to be metaphysically affected by the movement of the stars, being able to resurrect from the dead only when the stars were in a certain position. Likewise, the Atlantean god-kings purposely associated themselves with the stars and the planets, taking on the personification of planets and constellations, each of which had a particular "energy" or plain of existence associated with it. This energy is further manipulated by the prayers and rituals of the "cult" members in Lovecraft's stories, who are loyal to the Great Old Ones, and wish to see their kingdom rise again.

    The rise of R' lyeh, the New World Order, the New Atlantis, the New Jerusalem, the Golden Age, and even the Apocalypse - these are all terms for the same resurrection of the ancient global kingdom of the gods. Such a resurrection is also described in Aleister Crowley's The Book of the Law when he writes about the coming of the "Age of Heru" adn the return of the rule of the god as well as their offspring, the human kings.

    "Ye shall them at rule, at victorious armies, at all the joy...love one another with burning hearts, on the low men trample in the fierce lust of your pride, in the day of your wrath...Trample down the Heathenl; be upon them, O warrior will give you of their flesh to eat."

    Now read the following passage from The Call of Cthulhu and compare.

    "Then, whispered Castro, those first men formed the clut around the small Idols which the Great Old Ones showed them; idols brought in dim eras from dark stars. That cult would never die, 'til the stars came right again, and the secret pries would take great Cthulhu from his tomb to revive his subjects and resume his rule on Earth. The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and reveling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselvs, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom. Meanwhile, the cult, by appropiate rites, must keep alive the memory of those ancient ways and shadow forth the prophecy of their return."

    This age of the glorious rule of the Old Ones, and the land which they ruled over, is so similar to Atlantis, Thule, Lemuria, and all of the other mythical lost civilizations as to be blatantly obvious, and it is clear that it was the biblical Deluge that put an end to their kingdom. We read in Lovecraft:

    "In the elder time chosen men had talked with the entombed Old Ones in dreams, but then something happened. The great stone city R' lyeh, with its monoliths and sepulchers, had sunk beneath the waves; and the deep waters, full of the one primal mystery through which not even thought can pass, had cut off the spectral intercourse. But memory never died, and the high priest said that the city would rise again when the stars were right. Then came out of the Earth the black spirits of the earth, moldly and shadowy, and full of dim rumors picked up in caverns beneath forgotten sea-bottoms. But of them old Castro dared not speak much.

    The climax of Lovecraft's story comes when the main character reads and account of his uncle's death in a fishing boat off the coast of Australia. He had come across a monolith sticking out of the ocean, which turned out to be resting on top of a mountain that was poking out of the water, upon which he and his shipmates landed their boat. There they discovered a strange sunken city built wiht "cyclopean". non-Euclidean architecture. It was an earthquake that had brought the top of the city to the surface, where Cthulhu and the Great Old Ones were entombed. Their presence awakened Cthulhu, who oozed out of the mountain, dripping in green slime, and presumably killed the whole crew.

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    When I read your descriptions I think of Grendel a monstrous man-eating descendant of Cain slain by Beowulf in the Old English poem Beowulf

    Seems like there is some version of the Titans in every tradition worldwide. Tells you something, doesn't it?
     
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    :) it sure does beloved! Not unlike the story of the deluge shared by many different cultures and peoples.

    BTW, I love the 'fro.:congrats:
     
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    Part 3

    Similar themes are touched upon in Lovecraft's other work. It At the Mountains of Madness, he returnes to the theme of discovering the lost city of the Old Ones, this time set in Antarctica, which, as the Nazis and many others believed, is rumored to be the location of one of the largest entrances to the hollow Earth. In The Nameless City, he delves explicitly into the hollow Earth, describing the discovery of a subterranean passage filled with the caskets of dead reptilian bodies, who had obviously, at one time, lived inside the Earth. And finally, in Dagon, lovecraft tells the tale of a shipwrecked man who finds himself stuck in a "slimy expanse of hellish black mire". which had been unearthed when "through some unprecedented volcanic upheaval, a portion of the ocean floor must have been thrown to the surface, exposing regions which for innumerable millions of years had lain hidden under unfathomable watery depths. "This is clearly another reference to the recurring theme in Lovecraft's work of sunken Atlantis rising from the ocean, which as we have established, is also a common them in world mythology. (1) There the character discovers a white monolith covered with hieroglyphs:

    "The writing was in a system of hieroglyphs unknown to me, and unlike anything I had ever seen in books, consisting for the most part of conventional aquatic symbols, such as fishes, eels, octopi, crustaceans, mollusks, whales and the like. Several characters obviously represented marine things which are unknown to the modern world, but whose decomposing forms I had observed on the ocean risen plain."

    Clearly, then, what this character has discovered are the remains of a high civilization of sea-faring , ocean-obsessed people, which is exactly what Atlantis is described as being, and why their kings, or gods were depicted as half-man, half-fish. Lovecraft continues:

    "Plainly visible across the intervening water on account of their enormous size was an array of bas-reliefs whose object would have excited the envy of Dore. I think that these were supposed to depict men, at least a certain sort of men; though the creatures were shown disporting like fishes in the waters of some marine grotto or paying homage at some monolithic shrine that appeared under the waves as well. They were damnably human in general outline, despite webbed hands and feet, shockingly wide and flabby lips, glossy, bulging eyes, and other features less pleasant to recall

    Vast, Polyphemus-like, and loathsome, it darted like a stupendous monster of nightmare to the monolith which it flung in gigantic scaly arms, the while it bowed it hideous head and gave vent to certain measured sounds. I think I went mad then.


    When the character awakes, he is in a hospital bed in San Francisco, safe and sound, but not sound of mind. Disturbed by his memories, he consults "a celeberated ethnologist, and amuses him with peculiar suggestions regarding the ancient philistine legend of Dagon, the Fish-God." Clearly, the character believes it was Dagon himself, or one if his horde, whome we witnessed that faithful night. As I have previously established, Dagon, one of the Kings of Atlantis, was symbolically the same as Kronos. Oannes, Enki, and therefore Satan. He was one of the Nephilim, Watchers, or fallen angels upon with Lovecraft's "Great Old Ones" are based in keeping with the theme, the character in this story believes that they will one day return to rule the Earth again:

    I dream of one day when they may rise above the bellows to drag down, in their reeking talons, the remnants of puny, war-exhausted mankind - of a day when the land shall sink, and the dark ocean floor shall ascend amisdst universal pandemonium

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    Dri9pping with green slime? The Lock Ness monster? The creature from the Black Lagoon? Seems they all work for the same company.

    If the great Old Ones are the same as the New World Order then they aren't the good guys. If they sunk as the bad guys will they rise as the good guys or rise to another reign of terror?
     
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    Ahhh, good question. Good guys. Later in this thread I'll illustrate how these very beings represent latent and dorment cosmic forces residing in us, that are now in a state of exile.

    Most of the depictions of the Great Old Ones are essentially symbolic.

    That being said, perhaps we can view them in terms of what they represent with respect to their state of being, their condition. Where are Titans and how did they get there. They're group of beings that are inprisoned underground, in the sea (think natron), in a state of suspended animation.

    I'll break this down in Alchemical terms shortly.
     
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    I can't wait. It's like the ausarian metaphorum. an analogy to what's going on inside.

    Very interesting that those who just stumble on the rising city when it rose not as a result of stellar alignment but was disrupted by an earthquake and the hapless saps who stumbbled on it were destroyed.

    Good night. I've had a long day but I have something to look forward to tomorrow.

    Same Bat time. same Bat channel.
     
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    Stay "tuned" ! I'll post something later this afternoon.
     
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    Part 4

    The twentieth-century is busy resurrecting the titans - the primal "builders" fo the cosmos who appear in creation myths under various guises - the Giants of Norse Mythology or the Greek titans for instance. Once these titanic forces have completed their work, they are cast out or banished from the ordered cosmos, which is then populated by all manners of entities. The titans are ever-present, lurking at the borders of "reality". These forces, both destructive and creative, continually appear in literature as the them of conflict btween reason and ral, primal nature.

    The myth-cycle of the titans represents the catabolic forces which propagate change in any system - whether the scale be universal or subatomic. They are held to be dormant or asleep in that they are in equalibrium. However, when a system evolves to a certain degree of complexity (like modern society) it becomes increasing unstable, can eventually lead to either evolution - the system "evolves" to a higher-order of complexity, or collapse - systems crash. It is at such crisis-point that the titans once more become active - when a great deal of instability needs to be built up, so that the evolutionary "leap" may be made.

    The development of nuclear technology has led to a sudden increase of access points (grids) where the spheres meet between our ordered reality and the primal chaos of the Titans. The gateways have been opened, and the evolution of all entities with the biosphere (organic and elemental) is being affected.

    As the power of the titans returns, a new priesthood has arisen to worship them - the power obsessed politicos and there numerous satraps. Like the wizards of the Cthulhu mythos, they believe that the titans can be controlled, and that they possess the spells to bind and chain nuclear and quantum mechanical forces without danger. Unfortunately for them (and us), the titans are utterly amoral, not being sentient as we know it. Our only point of interface with them is through the so called Dragon brain, with its pre-verbal atavisms and instinctual drives.

    The tricky point about the titans is that for the moment, "we" need them if the evolutionary leap is to be made successfully. Their return is generated the incoming current which has been variously conceptualised as the Maat, or Kaos current. In the final analysis, the names and attendant symbolism are not that important, they are but facets of the same process.

    Magicicans and other visionaries who are aware of the Titans and their affects are now actively working as transducers for these energies. Evocation of titanic energies into one's own space-time lattice is a dangerous, yet there are those who may seemingly do this with impunity. The use of names, sigils, and chants are only partially helpful, since the "names" of the titans form the fabric of reality itself.

    More to come!
     
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