Black People : Relative Thinking

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  1. Da Street So'ja

    Da Street So'ja Banned MEMBER

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    i see it's hard to

    think outside relative thought, meaning you think only from your perspective

    in terms of NOW, but we aren't the only ones who've ever lived

    and when we die life WILL go on, let me ask a question?

    can you visualize 4 million years past, 400,000 years past, 40,000 years past
    4,000 years past, 400 years past, 40 years past, now, 40 years in the future, 400 years in the future, 4,000 years in the future, 40,000 years in the future and so forth?

    each are different levels of consciousness, can you place yourself at those
    levels. i know you say where am i going with this?

    here's where i'm going, it's easy to view something from the past
    and comment in terms of relative thinking, (meaning your present perspective)
    placing yourself there in the time in question and THEN reviewing it
    would help in my opinion.

    example, i've always prided myself as a runaway slave by nature
    but really have no idea what i would have done being a slave on a
    south carolina plantation in 1793, i can think i would have ran but................

    maybe i wouldn't have ran, because that meant death and maybe i would have changed my mind and said i want to live, so living means staying
    who knows what i would have thought because my thoughts in 1793
    would be relative to 1793

    so when you comment on stuff from the past saying i would have done this
    and i would have done that, STOP IT PLEASE, you really have no idea
    what you would have done because you're thinking would be relative

    of course this doesn't apply in ALL cases there are people who can see
    outside the box but for the most part most fall right back in the box
    it's not your/our fault it's set up like that

    so when you say you would have done this and done that, it sounds nice
    but in reality is relative not absolute.

    Relative thinking is akin to reflex thinking, and amerikkka is BIG on reflex thinking. Reflex thinking requires NO thought is all reflex, you wake up, you know what time to leave, you go to work, and you lose your identify
    you are not allowed to move forward YOU MUST SAY IN YOUR LANE

    i liken it to the hamster wheel, oh yea the hamster's making "progress"
    albeit an extremely confined progress lol but his progress is only
    RELATIVE to the wheel, are you feeling me? therefore his thought progress
    while running around this wheel is reflex because how much thought
    does it takes to run around the wheel?


    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912


    http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.asp
     
  2. Keita Kenyatta

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    Your thought process is very good and I respect where you are coming from. Let me put a little spin on this. I have never actually taken it as far as you did in terms of saying I would have ran away or anything like that but I have understood things about myself that I know to be fact. Right now I feel like I'm in a time warp. In other words, I'm somewhere between old school and new school and that's not good. Had I been born a few years earlier I'd be dead by now from drugs or the riots. Now I say this understanding my nature, my mind and my character....I am an extremist in many senses. Had I been born later in life then I would have been a victim of New Jack City or a clocker on the corner. Even in my music....I grew up hearing all the great vocalist but when I was doing my music my competition was Club Nouvou and Loose Ends. I've always been just a little too young for one thing and too old for another...leaving me feeling feeling trapped in a time warp to a degree. Relative thinking? Relative to what?

    One can be behind the times, out of time, in time, on time and ahead of the times. I understand something about time and life that's as relative today as it was back then....and that's that there was no back then, there is no today and tomorrow never comes. Now is all we have....this very second, the last breath we took for we may be gone in the next. Yeah, it's all relative. Thanks for the post Brother!
     
  3. Da Street So'ja

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    i agree with you

    900 trillion years from now will come to pass we will have been a long gone
    story, and right back to the point you expressed of no back then, no now
    and no tomorrow. and yes we have this second, this breathe, but the mind
    gives us the sense of infinity and infinity to me is an absolute.

    yet we are not absolute we are relative the only absolute thing is dying

    and even then dying has a relative cadence to a degree IMO

    i feel you about the being born at a certain time, i used to think that very much about me my Leo brethren, but now i realize i'm right where i need to be
    talking to real brothers like you who teach me something and in a way
    maybe that's you're calling that you are here for that purpose and other
    reasons (family, life experiences). Man we need you here and i'm glad you're here bro. KEITA

    you were born right at the right time to so that we'd meet here @ destee's
    with all the other africans and we would grown consciously together
    as we approach the galactic center

    as it is written

    peace
     
  4. Da Street So'ja

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    my intent

    wasn't to undermine anyones thought process per se, i was making reference to the "time" in which your thinking is done. it would not be the same

    if you're living in 359 b.c. your differences would change in 1859

    but still are far as living goes you still need air to breath, and food to eat and such. i just think we are not living a full potential, people say we are in the image of "GOD" but why can't i be more then just an "image" and that
    wherein lies the problem we ARE so much more but we've succumbed to this
    mule like existence somehow especially in amerikkka laced with some many
    lies

    lies that are falling apart everyday at an accelerated pace just as everything else is moving at that pace it might be hard to detect on those quiet sunday mornings

    we are moving towards a another climax a climax of energy

    there are called volcanoes for a reason

    :donttell:
     
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    And being that you mentioned "relative thinking"...I got a few relatives that ain't thinking at all !!!....lol
     
  6. Da Street So'ja

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    lol

    hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha

    :uhh:

    lol

    don't tell me they're reflex thinkers man

    :SuN045:
     
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    folks still in denial today.....

    i hate to think about it. i don't know what i would have done.
     
  8. Da Street So'ja

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    yes i feel you

    what will the beings of 500 years from now say about us or learn from
    us?

    :uhh:?
     
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    i still say i would have ran my @ss off...lol
    i get ur point though....

    one love
    khasm
     
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    Hotep Brother Keita:

    what i overstand is this... Brother Marcus Garvey, a true revolutionary was a soulja for us.

    We must learn a lesson from him...

    here it is...

    his anger toward white people made him loose sight of his true purpose.. love can not manifest thru hate... they are not complimentary opposites.. u taught me that...

    as i have taught u to judge me not by my pawns of conception but by the "content of my character"

    the same beast u discuss in ur book is the same beast that manifest in us when we hate simply the look of someone...

    a woman is a material thing.. she has materialized
    as a man has...

    but the true essence

    was only creating out of love...

    if we do not understand this..

    My beloved brother Marcus Garvey has died in vein...

    I will not support sister souljah as she flaunt her "piece" of american pie...

    increase the peace

    u have already seen the face of the future...

    why do u doubt.

    u come here again to make better choices not the same ones...

    ur book inspired me to seek truth

    and i found that it was always in my heart

    one love
     
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