Black Spirituality Religion : Real Liberation & Salvation

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This physical world, which consists of the inert objects like Sun, Moon, Stars
    Air, Earth etc., is not the world, which is binding you and this is not
    The world from which you have to attain the liberation or salvation
    If you get salvation from this physical world it is called the death
    Death is not the salvation since even after death you are bound by the bonds
    The bonds are not with the physical world but they are with your family members
    It is this family that constitutes your entire world from which you must be salvated

    The physical world is real and it is unreal for the creator only and not for you
    You are a part and parcel of this world and if you say that this world is unreal
    You too become unreal, your unreal world is your own family, which is created
    By yourself only and why this is unreal? If you analyse, these bonds did not exist
    Before this birth and do not exist after this birth and hence are not existing
    During this birth also, Sankara told that temporary is always unreal
    Therefore, Gita emphasizes for the detachment from these worldly bonds

    Jesus goes one step further and advises you even to hate these family bonds
    This is surprising but if you analyse, I should say, He is absolutely correct
    If you analyse deeply, these family members deserve your hatred and not love
    The reason is that these family members were very vehement enemies to you
    In the previous birth you stole their hard earned property and fought with them
    Now they have come to collect their wealth from you along with the
    Compound interest, they are in the form of wife and children and you are bound

    To pay them according to the force of Karma Chakra i.e., associated with Kala Chakra
    Payment of loans is Karma Chakra and payment in this birth is Kala Chakra
    The same is said “Runanubandha Rupena Pasu Patni Sutalayaah”
    The three strongest bonds are with money, wife and children and these three
    Are called as “Eeshanaas”, which are the stainless steel chains, which never
    Corrode, the secret in the force of these three bonds is only the force of Karma
    The Karma is the payment of the loans with interest and for that you have to earn
    Therefore, you are forced by Karma to earn the money and that is the spontaneous
    Attraction to the money, the Karma is dragging you to earn the money so that
    You can pay to your enemies who are surrounding you for the collection of loans
    Thus these three bonds are inter related and amalgamated by the force of Karma
     
  2. Keita Kenyatta

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    Ah yes...he or she who brings water to those who can not sip wine yet, how brilliant. I applaud you all the same for your intent, but placing the cart before the horse isn't going to work in here or anywhere. What you speak of is a science and discipline....and sadly it is not the ORIGINAL...ALTHOUGH IT WORKS FOR THOSE IT WAS INTENDED FOR.

    Remember, in all religions and spiritual paths there are portions of the whole...therefore ALL SYSTEMS AND RELIGIONS HAVE TO BE STUDIED SO AS TO KNOW WHERE THE DIVISION EXIST AND WHERE IT BEGAN...AS WELL AS TO KNOW WHAT IS OF VALUE IN EACH ONE THAT APPLIES TO US AS A PEOPLE.

    People have yet to acknowledge that "Just as we are different genetically and require healing based upon it and a diet based upon it, likewise, our system of spiritual development is not going to be the same also. Yet this is what we do. We try and force one system or another down into us and into others as if it is the cure all...not so.

    Psychologist recognize that children basically learn in three different modes and yet we exist in a so called educational system that attempts to teach all children the same. Yes, we a black people have so much to learn.
     
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    Keita Kenyatta going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I have respectively answered your second post to avoid any confusion.
     
  4. Moorfius

    Moorfius Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    What is our true Purpose?

    Hotep

    Liberation and Salvation for Afrikans Absolutly must start with Re-Educating our people out side the Europian Distortions. It is imposible to get or receive Liberation and Salvation from so-called White people. Any thing other than White-Supermicy is prohibited. We wish and pray for something that can't exist in a Real universe and call on Fause Deities that all have a Pale Face, the same Pale Face as the Oppresor of Afrikan people. The Truth stand alone on it's own foundation of the Natural Order of Things. Every thing else is False and will die a Natural death in time and that time is now. We might as well know and understand once and for all, The White Man and his Woman has Lied about every thing they tought Us,.........Every thing!

    Ase`
     
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    What happens when one dies is more of a release. But what all should want is more than a release of the body, but one of the Spirit from this world. A release in this body without the faith of the Son who died for our sins, would mean you still carry your own sins, and must answer for them, and ultimately be judged by them.

    Salvation actually involves being salvaged, which is what the Son does for us all by freeing us, so it's true that in death without faith, one is still bound. I don't necessarily think it's "family members" so long as they never come before the Father, but it's to worldly things, when it should be heavenly.

    Passing on in the faith and believing in the Son of the Father means He has cleansed you of your iniquity, thus you haven't sin to answer for, nor have need to worry on the wrath to come upon such a wicked world. You've shown a trust in the Father which not all do carry, and have taken on His Holy Spirit which not all have done. One's resurrection, as The Son's Resurrection was on the 3rd day, will be one to rejoice in knowing just as He Ascended, so shall you be rewarded in your judgement for your righteousness.
     
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