Law Forum : Racial Profiling - Should it be against the law?

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  1. Destee

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    I am so surprised! Where have I been, living under a rock or something?? Where in the world did I get the idea that racial profiling was in fact, against the law??!!! Wow ... I just read the article below, only to find out that it is perfectly legal to single out suspects based on skin color or other racial identifiers.

    Justices reject appeal of case raising racial profiling claims

    I'm sure it serves some good purpose, otherwise it would not be used (right?).

    Do you think racial profiling should be against the law?

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    Oh really Kemetstry? Okay. I didn't know. After reading that article, I thought it was not a law anywhere. Do you know which states? Obviously NY is not one of them, since that is where these young men (in the article) were when targeted.
     
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    Kitana - Thank You!

    I read the article and am adding an additional link to it
    here, so we can highlight its title:

    Is Jim Crow Justice Alive and Well in America Today?

    I also read the following article, Feingold, Conyers urge airlines to end racial profiling, where Senator Russ Feingold said,

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    yes!!

    most def should be against da law!!
     
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    I propose studying the "rules of engagement" with regard to law enforcement.
    African-American males will have to study a bit more ....

    If you put up a good fight the right way, I suspect the encounters will be far less frequent :).
     
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    Murder was against the law when they was hanging us from trees.. the Law is
    transparent and what you see when you look through it is the will of the folks
    holding it's reigns.. mainly judges, DAs, cops and legislators..
    Who would enforce a profiling law? Cops? no.. Cops can kill you and get
    off.. what kind of punishment would profiling come with?.. Cops, Judges,
    District Attorney's and Legislators are the guardians of the status quo.. cops
    getting caught on video beating and murdering folks.. DA throws it out.. or
    goes easy on them.. if it gets to a judge, the judge cooperates with the DA
    and the cops attorney to make it as painless as possible.. they are all on the
    same team.. it's a farce. a year later.. legislators create a law that makes it
    illegal to video tape officers.. no matter what they are doing.. they all work
    in concert.. I know many of us cling to this idea of justice as being something
    concrete.. but our history.. our daily history illustrates otherwise.. ​
     
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    I agree that law is the will of the political power holder. Law is also about political status. Some people are citizens, others are denizens, others are aliens. Who belongs to the private club known as citizenry?

    I contend that if you learn the rules of the game, you can win.

    The DA supposedly represents the people. The DA is also the attorney for law enforcement. This sounds like a conflict of interest to me. What if the DA is more a Statist than a representative of "the People"???

    If the DA is not doing his job to the pleasure of "the People", the people can recall and remove the individual from his office. This is the power of being "king".

    I agree with you concerning the history of law enforcement and African-Americans in these United States.

    I contend that there is a way of speaking and acting with law enforcement and the courts that you will be left alone. You will have even greater potency being you are an African-American and the assumption is that African-Americans are ignorant of the law. Therefore, African-Americans are going to be easy targets for law enforcement and the courts in which to extract money from for the system.

    When I speak the way I am talking now to law enforcement, everyone starts sweating. I'm not yelling. I'm not cursing. I'm not being belligerent. I calmly speak truth and exercise my rights. If the officer wants to violate my rights, that's fine. You hammer him in no uncertain terms in court. Court is for the airing of grievances as well as acquisition of remedy.

    On the other hand, it is also easier to stay out of trouble than to get out from under it :).

    Two sides of playing the game, both offense and defense. Hone them both.
     
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    Outlawing racial profiling would put a huge crimper on law enforcement.

    That reasonable suspicion thing ....

    Downside is that some groups face an inordinate amount of greater scrutiny than others.
     
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    I used to get stopped a lot, when I had dreds. but I got out of trouble only because I didn't have a record.
     
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