Black Spirituality Religion : Qur'an / Koran Part-One

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    Muslims Have A Habit Of Talking About The Quran Like It Is So Unique Or Original And It Comes From Judaic And Christian Teachings And Books . The Very Qur'an Puts Forth A 1400 Year Old Challenge To Produce A Book Or A Chapter Or A Verse Like It ; Claiming That It Is Impossible For Anyone With The Help Of All The Pages And All The Ink In The Word . To Produce One Verse .

    Chapter Or The Whole Book . Like It . And This Request Was Made In Several Places In Qur'an 52;34 ; 17;88 , 11;13 And 2;23 . Well Guess What ? It Took Many Years For Anyone To Take The Challenge Seriously . But When They Did . The Challenge Was Met In The Year 1987 A.D. In A Book Entitled '' The Life Of The Messiah In A Classical Arabic Tongue '' By Abdo . You Can Acquire This Book From '' The Zwemer Institute , P.O.Box 385 , Altadena , Califfornia U.S.A.


    The Qur'an Eloquence Was Met By A Great Poet From Lebanon By A Man Named Kahlil Gibran In A Book He Wrote Entitled '' The Prophet '' And The Muslims Would Thought It Could Not Be Done . Christian Mocked The Very Style Of The Quran Phrases And The Tasmiyya This Goes To Show That It Can Be Done And That AnyBody Can Produce The Like Thereof . '' The Book Is Divided Into 30 Chapter And Is Comprised Of Verse Compiled From The Gospels Of Four Disciples , Matthew , Mark . Luke . And John .

    According To The Author . The Book Was Written To Show Muslims That The Challenge They Have Been Making For 1400 Year . Has Finally Been Met . In This Book '' The Like Of The Messiah In A Classical Arabic Tongue '' . Verses From The Qur'an Were Also Taken And Reworded Using The Language Of The Qur'an . So That The Book Sounds As If It Is Written Like The Qur'an . Make Note That If The Challenge Has Anything To Do With A Book Being Able To Match The Symbolism In The Quran .

    Then It Means Nothing Because There Is A Book More Symbolic Which Is The Book Of Revelation Called The Injil In Qur'an 3;3, 5;49.5;71, Full Of Prophetic Events That Came And Are Coming True Right Now . The Qur'an's Eloquence Was Met By A Great Poet From Lebanon By A Man Named '' Kahlil Gibran In A Book He Wrote Entitled '' The Prophet '' . And The Muslim World Thought It Could Not Be Done .

    As I Have Said In The Past . If We People , Who Are Natives Of The Arabic Language Are Honest . Which Is Very Difficult When It Comes To The Qur'an . We Will Admit That The Language And The Construction Of This Book ; The Life Of The Messiah In A Classical Arabic Tongue '' . Written In The Same Arabic Of The Qur'an . It's Speaking Ability Is As That Of The Qur'an . I Have Read The Quran , Its The Same Face It .

    510 ( In Part ) '' ... In Case You Disagree With Zaid Bin Thabit On Any Point In The Qur'an , Then Write It In The Dialect Of Quraish As The The Quraan Was Revealed In Their Tongue
    ( Sahih Al Bukhari Volume 6 )

    And Another Place , In Qur'an 41;3 It Literally Says In The Arabic And English Translation That The Qur'an Is In Arabic For People Who UnderStand .

    El's Holy Qur'an 41;3 ( In Arabic ) Revealed In The Year 616 A.D. And I Quote ; A scripture whose verse are in < Fusilat > ' Detail , < Arabiyyan > An Arabic ' Qur'aan ( in the Quraysshan dialect ) for a kindred who knows .

    Surely , If Allah Is The All - Knowing , Then He Knows That The Whole World Did Not Speak Arabic At That Time And He Would Have Definitely Known That 1400 Years After The Qur'an Had Been Revealed That The Whole World Would Not Be Speaking The Arabic Language , Not To Mention The Quraish Dialect . Here We Are In 2005 A.D. And Less Than 10% Of The Entire World Speak The Arabic Language . You Cannot Tell Me That Is Not Racism . The Qur'an Took Some Of It Stories From Jewish Folklore ,

    Other From Christian Stories And Even Others From Egyptian Coptic Stories Such As The Story Of The Raven Coming To Cain And Able In Qur'an 5;27-32 . According To Dr . Anis Shorrson . This Story Came From An Ancient Jewish Tradition ( Ad 150-200 Preserved By Pirke Rabbi Eleazor ) . Also The ll Targum Of Esther , Which Dates Back To The Second Century A.D. 400 Years Before The Qur'an , Is Found To Be The Source Of Qur'an 27;17-44 . How Do You Explain This .


    More Proof That The Qur'an Was Not For Everyone . Is Its Simple Promises In Paradise . Take A LQQk At Qur'an 76;7-21 And Lets See Exactly What You Are Going To Be Getting In Paradise ;
    ( 1 ) . Garments Of Silk ;
    The Ashuric / Syraic ( Arabic ) Word For Silk Is Hariyrin And Means '' Dressed In Silk , Wholly Composed Of Silk . '' Persia . China , India And South Korea Are The Biggest Producers Of Silk . To The Persian . Chinese , Indians And South Koreans , Silk Is Not A Big Deal . Not To Mention You Can Go To A Fabric Store Right Here On Earth And Purchase As Much Silk As You Like . Thus , This Promise Is OBSOLETE .

    ( 2 ) . Reclining On Raised Thrones ;
    The Thrones That The Quran Promise . Are Not More Than Couches That Anybody Who Can Afford Furniture Has In Their Living Room Or Dining Room . When Muslims Hear The Word Throne , They Are Thinking Of Kingship . However , This Is Not What The Qur'an Is Talking About . The Ashuric / Syraic ( Arabic ) Word Being Used For Throne Is Araa'eke And Is Defined As '' Raised Couches Ornamently Furnished And Decorated Which Is A Tent , Or - Pavilion Or Chamber , '' Its Word Does Not Imply That You Will Have Authority Or Sit On A Throne Next To God . Thus , This Promise IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING .

    ( 3 ) . Neutral Weather , The Days Won't Be Too Hot And The Nights Won't Be To Cold
    Not On Every Part Of The Earth . Is The Sun Too Hot During The Day And Too Cold During The Night , So , This Statement Obviously Couldn't Apply To The Entire Word . However , It Does Apply To People Who Live In The Desert And Have To Deal With This Kind Of Weather . Not To Mention , Scientists Know How To Control The Weather . So . Whoever Is Controling The Weather Is The Person Muslims Should Be Talking To About The Weather . Or Better Yet . Relocate To Talking To About The Weather . Or Better Yet , Relocate To Another Part Of The Country Of World Where The Weather Is Tolerable . Thus , This Promise Is OBSOLETE

    ( 4 ) . Bunches Of Fruit .
    Think For A Minute , The Only Places That People Can Not Grow Fruits Are Barren Lands Such As Deserts , And Lands That Have Been Stripped Of Their Natural Resources , For Whatever Reason . So To A Person Who Does Not Have Fruit Readily Accessible . . '' Bunches Of Fruit '' Is A Luxury . Thus , This Promise Is RIDICLOUS

    ( 5 ) . Qur'an 78;33 Promises Young Female Companions , Called Hariyumn Or Pubescent Maidens .
    First , I Would Like To Point Out The Fact That In Islaam , Men Are Allowed To Have Up To 4 Wives And In Some Cases , More . Men Are Allowed To Choose From A Number Of Wives And The Woman Has No Say So . The Point Being , Muslims Already Have Their Pubescent Maidens Right Here On Earth , And The Word In Arabic '' Huwr '' Has Nothing To Do With Pubescent Anything . According To Arabic English Lexicon , '' Huwr ' Means '' Intense Whiteness Of The Eye '' . ( NoWhere In The Qur'an Does It Say That Women Are Promised AnyThing In Paradise For Being Righteous All Of Their Lives , The Muslim Women Should Be Asking What Is In It For Them , Or Otherwide They Should Be Able To Live Their Life To The Fullest While Here On Earth . The Same Way That Muslim Men Are Doing . This Is How You Know That The Quran You Hold In Your Hand Today Was Written By Men . Thus , This Promise Is UNFAIR TO WOMEN , And Think About It Why Would God / Allah . Have To Promise Muslims Virgin Women In Heaven. To Be CON-TIN-UE
     
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    Why Do The Muslim Worship The Wall's Of The Ka'ba ?

    Where in the Quraan Does Allah command Muslims to worship the Wall's of the Ka'ba ?
    NoWhere , but they do . During pilgrimage , Muslims cling to the Ka'ba Walls , press their bodies against them and make worship to them begging pardon for their sins . Allah did not say anywhere to do this as a ritual for pilgrimage , it is not mentioned in the Qur'an .

    The small piece of wall between the Black Stone and the door of the Ka'ba is called '' Al Multazam < Arabic > meaning '' the place to hold on to '' . Whoever named it this ( Al Multazam ) < Arabic > is the one who made it a law . If you ask a Muslim who did it , and you find you < In- No - Va - Tor > Here pilgrims press their Stomachs , Chests , and Faces to the Wall , raising their Hands high above their heads and exclaim .

    O Allah ! Our Lord of the Ancient House , free my neck from hell's fire , and preserve me from every ill deed , and make me contented with that daily bread which thou has given to me , and bless me in all thou has granted ! I beg pardon of Allah the most high , who there is no other God but He , the living , the eternal , and unto him I repent myself .

    Mecca , by Desmond Stewart , Newsweek , New York , 1980 A.D. page 149 .
    Whoever wrote or made this Dus up . because its not found in the Qur'an , is an < In - No - Va - Tor > . This is a sin if I do , but they can . It is a sin to worship an object of any form or fashion ( Exodus 20;4 ; Leviticus 26;1 ; Deuteronomy 7;25 ; The Qur'an 22;26-27 ) . Allah commanded that Muslims worship (at ) the site of the Ka'ba ( not ) the Ka'ba itself . Qur'an 2;144; 106;3 ...
     
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    Where In The Qur'an Does It Say To Worship Stones ?

    Nowhere , But They Do . Some of their Ka'ba ritual concern the corners of the Ka'ba itself . The corners of the Ka'ba are ;
    Ar Ruknul Iraqi ---- The nother corner , Its name means '' a side or shore '' . Iraq was so named because it was on the shore of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers .
    Ar Ruknush Shaami ---- The west corner . Its name means '' that which is on the left hand
    ( looking to the '' rising sun ) .
    Ar Ruknul Yamaani --- The south corner - it faces the southwestern province of Arabia . It is said to be one of the most ancient stones of the Ka'ba , located five feet off the ground . It is one foot and a half in length and two inches thick . This stone is darker and redder than the rest of the wall . Also called Hajar As Sa'iydah , Stone of Felicity .
    Ar Ruwknul Aswad --- The east corner - Name after the '' Black Stone '' which rest in this corner .

    Muslims adore two particular corner of the Ka'ba ; the Black Stone called Hajarul Aswad - located at the southeast corner which was put there originally by the Prophet Abraham , and then by the Prophet Muhammad himself . This was not the only time the Ka'ba would be rebuilt . This occurred in 605 A.D. when the Quraish undertook rebuilding the Ka'ba after a violent flood practically destroyed the walls of the structure .

    With much concern the Quraish threw themselves into repairing the Ka'ba . Finally , it came time for the Black stone to be replace in the corner . Much discussion ensued amongst the many clans of Quraish as to who would be the one to put the Black stone in its place . It was finally decided that whoever was the first one to enter the court would be chosen to decide amongst them . or he himself would be chosen to place the stone .

    At that moment the Prophet Muhammad entered the court . The Prophet Muhammad proposed that the clans break up into four groups from which four Chiefs would be picked to each hold a corner of his mantle uopn which the Black stone would be lain . The four Chiefs raised the Black stone by a corner of the Prophet Muhammad's cloak , when the stone reached a certain height , the Prophet Muhammad himself guided the Black stone into place .

    So , as I said the Prophet Muhammad as well as the Prophet Abraham placed the Black stone in its corner of the Ka'ba , A second stone called Ruknul Yamaani was placed at the corner faceing south . Now ask . Who placed this second stone as a marker in the Ka'ba ? This stone face Yemen , from which '' Rahman '' another name for the Prophet Musaylimat ibn Habib Al Hanafi ( 558-633 A.D. ) came from . Yes , Ruknul Yamaani Is The Marker For a man who people in his time called a prophet who The Orthodox Sunni Muslim say to share the office of Prophethood with the Prophet Muhammad .

    He was before the Prophet Muhammad teaching the Oneness of a Deity . His sect was called Hunafa his religion was called Millat He claimed it was from the Prophet Abraham whom he said was a Hanif one who is upright ( The Quran 2;135 ; 3;95 ; 4;125 ; 6;161 ; 16;123 ; ) or of the Hunafa .


    The Qur'an 3;67 ( Originally the 89th chapter revealed in Medina , 635 - 627 A.D )
    Abraham Was Not A Jew Nor Yet A Christian ; But He Was True In Faith And Bowed His Will To God's ( Which Is Islam ) , And He Joined Not God's With God .


    The Holy Qur'an ' Addullah Yusuf ' Ali , McGregor & Werner , 1946 A.D.
    The Qur'an 3;67 ( Originally 89th chapter revealed in Medina 625-627 A.D )
    Abraham Was Not A Judahite ( Follower Of Moses ; There Were No Judahites Until After Him ) Nor A Nazarene ( Follower Of The Messiah Jesus ; There Were No Nazarites Until After Him ) , But He Was Upright And A Muslim ( One Of Peace ) He Named Us Muslims And He Was Not Of The Idol Worshippers ( Like The Babylonians Of His Time )


    Whey Muslims make Hajj ( Pilgrimage to Mecca ) it is a part of their ritual to kiss the Black which is only seven inches in diameter as they enciricle the Ka'ba 7 times . It is also the point in which they begin to encircle the Ka'ba , The Muslims believe the Black Stone is an '' Eye-Witness '' whp will bear witness to the pilgrims who kissed it fervently on Judgement Day , This Is What They Say ;

    From Ibn ' Abbas ; Said The Apostle Of God ( Blessings And Peace Upon Him ) About The Stone ; By God ! God Shall Raise It On The Day Of Resurrection . It Will Have Two Eyes With Which To See And A Tongue To Talk With . It Will Testify To WhomSoEver Had Caressed It Truthfully '' . < At Tirmidhi , Book Of Hajj Chapter 113 >

    LQQk at what this Hadith is saying . The Black Stones will have two eyes , it shall be raised on the Last Day and it will have a tongue with which to speak . You Muslims Are Nuts if you Believe This And Teach It To Your Children ! ( THIS IS STOP WORSHIP , A MAJOR SIN ) Muslims Have The Nerve To Speak Out Against The Catholics , Or Buddhists And Their Statues .
     
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    Why Is The Black Stone Black ?

    Muslims believe that Black is evil and a sin . They say the Black Stone was once white and over the years as evil people kissed or touched it , it turned Black .

    Says The Prophet The Black Stone Descended From Heaven , When It Was Whiter Then Milk ; But People's Sins Have Blacken < Tirmidhi from Ibn ' Abbas , Kitab Al Hajj , Chapter 49 >

    Yet , if you really get close to the stone you would see that it is not Black but Dark Brown , Isn't that what they call Nubians in this day and time '' Black '' even though they are brown ? So what about the '' Dark Skinned '' Arabs who make pilgrimage and '' Kiss This '' Black '' Stone '' whose color is Symbolic Of Sin ? This is Subliminally Suggesting Black Is Evil Which Would Include Nubian's / Black's Also . < Isn't This A Racist Concept Which Has Been Incorporated Into Your Pilgrimage ?

    Hummm if the Black Stone turned Black because of Sins of those who Touched it . Then why is the Ka'ba covered with A Black cloth called A Kiswa if BLACK '' Is Symbolic Of Sin ? Muslims will have to say they don't know and is it in the Quran to drape the Ka'ba with a cloth of any color or kind ? No It's Not !

    If there aren't Solid Rocks in heave , Where did the Black Stone Come From . Muslims don't believe that Heaven is A physical place ; however , they teach that the Black Stone , a physical object , came from Heaven . Muslims contradict themselves also with another popular belief that the Black Stone is a Meteorite which would also mean that there are Solid Rock In Heaven. How can they say that Heaven is a spiritual state , not a physical state , if they hold such beliefs to be true ?

    The Muslims have added the Prophet Muhammad's name to the '' Kiswa . They have you worshipping the Ka'ba itself , not worshipping the Creator at the Ka'ba . Ask the Muslims what does the Prophet Muhammad's name on the Kiswa got to do with your worship of ALLAH ?


    La - Ilaha - Illa - Allah - Al - Malik - Al - Haqq Al - Mubin = Nothing Would Exist If Allah Didn't Create It Time Ruler , The Clear Truth ( Fact Beyond Doubt ) ...Muhammad Rasuwl Allah Saadaq - Al - Wa'ad Al Mubin = Muhammad One Sent From Allah The Clear True Promise ''

    Also Written On The ( Kiswa --- By the servant of the two holy Places Khalid ibn ' Abd al - Aziz Al Saud , may God accept it from him ) .


    The son of Abul Aziz ibn Saud , Khalid , was the first '' king '' to add his name to the Kiswa . the covering of the Ka'ba . This is the only non-Qur'anic inscrption on the entire Kiswa , defiling the sacredness of the Ka'ba . The Kiswa is replaced yearly . It hangs in the United Nations Delegate lounge , a present from King Fahd on January 1 , 1983 A.D. It is a gift to the United States showing political heads from around the world .
     
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    Did Allah Tell The Muslim To Kiss The Black Stone AnyWhere In His Qur'an ???

    No He Didn't . First of all the Prophet Abraham was told to encircle the Ka'ba and worship there , not to KISS the Black Stone . You won't find it , this is something they made up ( An In -No - Vation ) . The KissIng of the Black Stone is called '' Istilam < Arabic > which is said to mean '' he touched or reached the Stone [ meaning the Black Stone of the Ka'ba ] by KissIng , or with the hand , etc , ( Lane Arabic - English Lexicon , Book 1 , Part 4 ) It is said by them that the Prophet Muhammad touched it with a Stick so if they truly follow everything he did , they should do the same .

    < This Goes To Show That The Muslims Pick And Choose The Sunna Of The Prophet That You Wish To Follow And Call That Correct > NoWhere is the KissIng of the Black Stone found in the Qur'an , it is a man-made tradition according this Hadith ;

    667, Narrated , 'Abis Bin Rabi'A ; Umar Came Near The Black Stone And Kiss It And Said , No Doubt , I Know That You Are A Stone And Can Neither Benefit Anyone Nor Harm Anyone . Had I Not Seen Allah Apostle KissIng You I Would Not Have Kissed You < Sahih Al Bukhari , Volume 2 , page 391 >

    Here they have the great caliph , 'Umar , speaking to a rock ! The hypocrisy of the Muslim In-No-Vations is very plain to see . On the one hand , they say that it should be Kissed , on the other hand , they state that ;

    Hundreds , even thousands , are circling the Ka'ba at one and the same time . How could each person Kiss the one Stone separately ? Naturally , when so over-crowded , the Kissing will have to be dispensed with by some or many of them . At such time it is quite enough , therefore , to face the Black Stone from any distance and only point at it by one's hand , at the start of each round . < Is The Black Stone An Idol ? Is Pilgrimage A Pagan Rite ? . Abdus Samad Sharfuddin , Kazi Publications , Illinois , 1974 A.D. page 8

    So then the Kissing of the Black Stone is one of those things which men decide when it should or should not be done . It is not ordained by ALLAH ; therefore , it fall into the category of In -No -Vation . Kissing the Black Stone is something '' new '' which has been added by men after ALLAH declared that he had perfected Islam .

    The Qur'an 5;3 ( In Part ) ( Originally the 112th Chapter Revealed In Medina , 627-629 Verse 3 Revealed In Mecca 632 A.D. ) And I Quote ; This Day Have Those Who Reject Faith Given Up All . Hope Of Your Religion ; Yet Fear Them Not But Fear Me . This Day Have I Perfected Your Religion For You , Completed My Favor Upon You , And Have Chosen For You Islam As Your Religion . < The Holy Qur'an 'Abdullah Yusuf 'Ali , McGregor & Wemer , 1946 A.D.

    Stop Making A Mockery Of The Word Of Allah !
    I am warning you Muslims , there is no such thing as a Siratun Saghir < Arabic > or a Siratun Kabir < Arabic >. There is only one Sirat , Siratul Mustaginn < Arabic > the path of those who stand straight in the sight of ALLAH . If you Muslims don't want to walk on the Siratul Mustaqiym , then you are just fake Muslims . You are acting as Hypocrite when you recite the sixth verse of Suratul Faatiha < Arabic > Chapter of the Opening at every single worship when you say ; < Show us the straight path >

    Sunni Muslim religion is not the '' Straight path '' . You are deviators because you follow the books , laws and regulations established by men , True Muslims obey the words of Allah whether the Qur'an ( The Qur'an 3;3 ) the Torah [ 5 Books of Moses - The Qur'an 5;47,69 ] , the Injil [ Evangel , Revealation - 22 Chapter of the Messiah Jesus The Qur'an 3;48 ] the Books of the Prophets ( The Qur'an 4;164 )or As Suhuf ( the Pure Pages , The Qur'an 98;2 ) and not Hadith ( The Qur'an 6;68 ) . There are all commandment sent down by Allah to guide men aright .


    New Question ; Why Does The Qur'an Say That A Man Can Only Have Four Wives Quran 4;3 And The Prophet Muhammad Had 13 Wives .
     
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    Brother Issa

    May I ask with WHOM are you debating with, up in here?
     
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    Yes


    Just Shareing Some Knowledge ....


    But Here A Question If You Wish To Answer Ok
    Why Do Orthodox / Sunni Torture A Whole Lot Of Their Women With Female Circumcision ?
     
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    They don't.

    It's not even an Islamic practice let alone "Sunni".

    It's an ancient cultural tradition to decorate the vagina that transends religion.

    It's related to male circumcism, which is also performed on boys during puberty.

    This is only found in certain communities.

    I know several women who've been circumcises...(and it does look cute); but it's not an Islamic tradition in any way.

    Any more questions my inquisitive brutha?
     
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    Why Do Orthodox / Sunni Torture A Whole Lot Of Their Women With Female Circumcision ?

    Question ; For Orthodox Sunni Muslim Why Do They Torture A Whole Lot Of Their Women With Female Circumision ? This Practice Can Not Be Be Found AnyWhere In Your Qur'aan ! The Muslims got it from Genesis 17;11 And I Qoute ; '' And Ye Shall Cirumcise The Flesh Of Your Forskin ; And It Shall Be A Token Of The Convenant Betwixt Me And You .
    This process was performed by The Chaldean Abraham on his sons Ishmael and Isaac , And all the male servants in his household ,

    Not the female members and I Quote ; '' And He That Is Eight Days Old Shall Be Circumcised Among You , Every Man Child In Your Generations . He That Is Born In The House , Or Bought With Money Of Any Stranger , Which Is Not Of Thy Seed . It was originally an Ancient Practice that was performed by The Ancient Egyptian , Then Stolen and passed to The Hebrews , And some Christians .

    And finally down to the Muslims . The Pharaohs did this so . That their daughters will not dishonor them . And the common man wanted to be like Pharaoh so he started to follow the tradition of The Royal Family In Egypt . Even right now , until this very day , 90% Of Egyptian And Sudanese woman are literally tortured to death under Khitaan Firaa'inaa < Arabic > or Pharaonic Circumcision or our Pharaoh's Circumcision , ( Genesis 17;11 ) .


    The pharaonic circumcision or infibulation occurs usally at The Age Of 7 Or Eight . A process which removes all of The Clitoris , The Labia Minora , And The Labia Majora . The sides are then Sutured Together Often With Thorns , And only A small Matchstick - Diameter opening is left for Urine and Menstrual flow . The Girl's Legs Are Tied Together And Liguids Are Heavily Rationed Until The Incision Is Healed . During This Primitive Yet Major Surgery .

    It is not Uncommon For Girls . Who Are Held Down By Females Relatives . To Die From Shock Or Hemorrhaging . The Vagina , Urethra , Bladder , And Rectal Area May Also Be Damaged And Massive Keloid Scarring Can Obstruct Walking For Life . It Also May Cause Pain During Coitus And Phychological Damage . In Egyptian Villages It Is Performed On Girls Before Puberty As Well , By Untrained Village Midwives Using Any Kind Of Knife Or Razor Without Painkillers , And In Unsanitary Conditions .

    The reason giving for Clitoridectomies in Egypt are Cleanliness ( The Whole Cairo Is Dirty And Smelly ) . And for the Girls will not run after men . There are Westerners as well as Easterners who don't get chopped off AND DON'T RUN AFTER MEN . You Muslims All Have A Serious Complex . THE GOD / PHAROAHS MADE THINGS HAPPEN IN ANCIENT EGYPT , SO THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO WILL AS THEY WANTED . YOU DON'T , SO GIVE UP THE GOD / PHARAOH COMPLEX UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO PERFORM IT ON YOURSELVES !

    Well after Marriage , women who have been Circumcised must be Forcibly penetrated . This may take up 40Days , and when men are impatient A Knife Is Used , Recalled By A Sudanese Women . At A Recent Conference In Cairo . During Childbirth , The Scar Tissue Must Be Cut And The Opening Enlarged , Otherwise Mother And Child May Die . That Is Torture . When You Cut And Clip Off The Clitoris , Which

    The American Heritage Dictionary ' Describes as A ****-O-Ris ( KliT -R-IS , Kli TeR- ) N . A Small , Elongated Erectile Organ At The Anterior Part Of Th- Vulva . Homologous With The Penis . [ New Latin , From Greek Kleitoris . See Klei - Below ] --- ****'O-Ral ( eReL ) Adj . That means she can not fully Enjoy her sexual encounters because The Clitoris And The Labias ( Big And Small Are Both Chopped Off ) .

    The word Homologous , meaning '' Similar or like something in function and structure . So The Clitoris , Which Causes Excitement And Climax During Cohabitation Is Not There . She Is Suffering . Its Like Cutting Off The Man's Entire Penis !!!!!!!OUCCCCHHHH !!!!!!

    Muhammad Didn't Approve Of This According To Your Own Hadith And I Quote ; '' A Women Used To Perform Circumcision In Medina . The Prophet Said To Her ; Do Not Cut Severely , As That Is Better For A Woman And More Desirable For A Husband .
    The Prophet Muhammad Didn't Appove Of This . '''

    There Are One Hundred Million Women Who Have Undergone Sexual Mutilation . It Is Performed In Many African Countries ; Egypt Including The Sudan , Somalia , Ethiopia , Kenya , And Chad . It Is Also A Tradition Among Muslims In Malaysia And Indonesia And A Number Of Middle Eastern Countries Which Includes The UAE ( United Arab Emirates ) And Parts Of Saudi Arabia . Coptic Christians And Anmist Tribes In Africa As Well As Muslims Undergo This Ritual .
     
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    As-Salaamu - Alaykum < Ralfa'il > Kayfa - Haalaka

    Question For You ...
    Why Can't Women In Islam Lead Prayer ?
     
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