Black Spirituality Religion : Quimbanda??

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  1. Youko

    Youko Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Hi Family I've been gone for awhile but im back now. Im Planning on taking a trip to rio de janeiro brazil in the near future to be initiated in Quimbanda, but I've also came across a house in America which practice it too. I was wondering if someone who's in the know about this house could tell me if their authentic or not? P.s. I think its ran by a white dude...here's the link
    http://houseofquimbanda.org/
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    Hello and welcome back brutha.:grouphug:

    I'm sure you can find a member that can give you some insight to what you are seeking.


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    I've viewed your link to see what your interest were and I have an interest in it also, but not to your extent. My older brother introduced me to it, now he's into it like you are. I would sometimes like to hear what you think of the Philosopher's Stone.

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    Preciate that bro..Is your older bro initiated or he's looking too? N Wittme im more esoteric than anything I look @ the philosophers stone as a symbol for the power of our Kundalini...Whats your take on it? Cause everything that's without is within, Especially With Us!
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    The last we spoke, from all accounts, he's just looking. Is has some very interesting books, that pertain to the normal understanding of alchemy, which is changing base metals into gold.


    So you and I are on the same path, I'm working on my involution/evolution. Metaphysics, and quantum physics are my thing, quantum physics tells the universal truth that vibrations, or sound if you prefer is the creator of everything.

    This is my favorite symbol: Aum or Pranava which is the beginning, the middle, and end of all things.
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    Now as to the Phil. Stone, the ancient art of alchemy has come down throughout the ages, and it seems as though its true meaning, and level of antiquity is not well understood even by the few modern day practitioners I know. IMO alchemy remains the black art that it always was because of its primary power which is mystery itself, or darkness. Darkness is synonymous with ignorance, and without a doubt most of us remain in the dark when it comes to the meaning and purpose of alchemy today.

    Alchemy speaks with symbolism, which means that its true meaning is hidden from anyone who is symbolically illiterate.

    This is in my sig to give a head nod to the Kybalion.
    The Lips of Wisdom Are closed, Except To The Ears Of Understanding.

    And you are correct, true alchemy does deal with the Kundalini/Chackra. The Kybalion speaks about the art of hermetic alchemy, which deals with mental forces, and not material elements. It's all about the transformation of one kind of mental vibrations into other...Or as I said....involution/evolution.

    Have you heard of this book?



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    The Hermetic Art of Spiritual Transformation
    The ancient alchemist sought transmutation and immortality.
    For the soul to be immortal it must build for itself an imperishable spiritual body in which it can function after the dissolution of both the physical and astral forms.
    Through the allegorical language of transmutation the ancient alchemists sought to describe the immortality of the soul. The alchemical metals of lead, tin, iron, copper, mercury, silver, and gold are


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    Good read bro...involution/evolution I like that! You wouldn't mind if I added that to my vocab would you lol I've never heard of the book but seeing its so cheap im gonna have to check it out. I like the way you role though cause a lot of folks be so caught up in this material matter (cant blame em though) that they forgett the true powers lies within them (mind over matter) Changing your mentality is the 1st step to inner Alchemy! Good Post bro

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    As it was put to me, and I agree with it. This is not my knowledge to keep, but to share, because who knows, when we go thru this again, I know you will have some gems to help me on the my path to evolving. Yes burtha, involution is the process that we all go thru right before our evolution. But we have to be in harmony (Kundalini) and decalcify our third eye so we can see the path to evolution.

    BTW, I glad you liked the book, I reading the Kybalion, but i'm going to get that book and that will be the next one I read. Hopefully we can share ideas, and thoughts.

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    4Sho Brotha! In due Time
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    House of Quimbanda
    The First Authentic House and Lineage of Quimbanda in the United States

    Quimbanda is an Afro-Brazilian cult that is growing in popularity here in the United States thanks in large part to the stellar works of Nicholaj de Mattos Frisvold. Though relatively new in the United States, it has always been a significant part of Brazilian culture and its history and impact on the rest of the Afro-Brazilian religions is worthy of anthropological study.

    The term “Quimbanda” comes from the Kimbundu word “ki-mbanda” which refers to a healer-diviner involved in a cult of possession. The root of this cult is with the spiritual practices of the Kongo and Angola which was colonized by the Portuguese and brought to the new world via African slaves transported to Brazil.

    The kimbanda and nganga priests of the Kongo that were brought to Brazil formed Calunda cults that revolved around possession by Kongo fire spirits and working with the forces of Kalunga. These cults can be seen as the descendents of the Congo religions of Nsambi the Creator, Kalunga, the Bakulo/Tatas (ancestors), and the merging of the fiery Kadiempembe with the crossroads spirit of Aluvaia/Bombojila. Along with the Macumba practices these Calunda (also sometimes called Cabula) cults formed the basis of what is known as Quimbanda today.

    Macumba, an often derogatory term, was used to refer to black magic or the sorcerous practices of Afro-Brazilians. These practices were heavily influenced by Kongo sorcery, European witchcraft, and Amerindian or Caboclo shamanism. The firey Bantu spirits that formed the core of the Calunda cults became the masters of macumba and so became spirits born of African lineage, but shaped in the unique culture of Brazil. From this was born the cult of Quimbanda which can be seen in contrast to Umbanda, a separate religion that resulted from the dividing of macumba.

    In the 1920′s the medium Zelio formed the religion of Umbanda which took some of the spirits of its predecessor Macumba and Calunda and restrained them under the power of various Orixa, Caboclo, Saints, and Preto Velhos. In contrast, Quimbanda was relegated to the “left” and was viewed as a cult of darkness and fire. It would be more accurate, however, to view Quimbanda as a preservation of the older cults of Calunda and the practices of macumba and therefore a preservation and continuation of Bantu magic and religion.

    Quimbanda works with two main entities, who in of themselves are legion, Exu and Pomba Gira. There are other spirits and deities that are honored, but Exu and Pomba Gira form the core of the spiritual court of Quimbanda. These two spirits are highly complex spirits whose nature is often difficult to convey into words. Ultimately however they are spirits of night and fire tied to natural sites of powers and lines of spiritual ancestry. They are called upon to carry out works of magic and divination. True to its Bantu roots, Quimbanda is a cult of posession in which Exu and Pomba Gira ride the mediums and Tata and provide prophecy, give advice and consultation to their devotees, and perform healings and magic. Without this dynamic connection between spirit and man there is no Quimbanda.

    These spirits are renown for their devestating power and are often called the kings and queens of reality as a result of their ability to manifest the desires and petitions of their devotees with amazing speed. It is this speed and efficacy that has garnered their reputation as hot spirits. Exu and Pomba Gira are also reputed to be amoral, but this should not be confused with immoral or evil. These spirits do not judge those who come to them and will just as swiftly work for spells of healing and mending as they will for spells of break up and destruction. But Exu and Pomba Gira are wise just as they are powerful and they are just as ready to teach as they are to work magic, if one has the courage to listen to what they have to say.

    Given their complex and often hot nature, working with Exu and Pomba Gira is one that should not be done without proper guidance and consultation from an initiate. There is a proper protocol to working with these spirits who are very big on respect, but given their deep connection to our own soul, many can benefit from learning more about the Exu and Pomba Gira that walk with them.

    Just like its spirits, Quimbanda as a cult has a fierce reputation for being a cult of powerful sorcery and necromancy. While the fire of Quimbanda cannot be denied; its potential for providing wisdom and sustenance for the spirit that thirsts for primal truths also cannot be denied. Quimbanda, like its Bantu roots, does not discriminate between spiritual elevation and material happiness. A blessed person is one who is spiritually evolved *and* one who is provided for physically. This is what the cult of Quimbanda offers and promises–a religion that honors Nsambi the creator and works alongside the primordial childen he set as guardians of reality to heal one’s life and destiny to its natural state of happiness, wisdom, and success on all levels.

    In the end, Quimbanda is a spiritual tree born of an ancient Kongo seed, planted in Brazilian soil, nourished with European and Native American influences that blossomed into the force it is today–a cult of spirits of night and fire giving wisdom and power to life.

    http://houseofquimbanda.org/quimbanda/
     
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