Black Spirituality Religion : Questions for the non-believer.

Discussion in 'Black Spirituality / Religion - General Discussion' started by Radical Faith, Jan 11, 2005.

  1. Radical Faith

    Radical Faith Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I have been silently observing my brothers and sisters as many firvently attemp to debunk and dispell The Holy Bible. Well with compassion and concern I have some questions that I hope invoke serious self examination.

    1. In every good action of your life who gets the glory?

    2. For all that goes wrong in your life who gets the blame?

    3. When we die what do we take with us from this world to the next?

    4. What race is God?

    5. What sex is God?

    6. What does God want from me?

    7. What do I want from God?

    8. Who do you serve?

    9. Where does my strength lie?

    10. Why are things the way they are for me?

    The answer to these questions are in the The Holy Bible. I learned you with two scriptures:

    1 Corithians 2:10-14

    10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.


    2 Chronicles 7:14


    14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.


    Peace

    Radical Faith
     
  2. info-moetry

    info-moetry STAFF STAFF

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    "Radical faith" - I guess faith is not enough anymore huh? they must have stepped up the stakes...........
    There is no one trying to dispell the "Holy Bible" first of all I would like u to clear up of

    1. which of the thousands are u referring too?
    2. how did u come to the conclusion that this one is the truth out of them all?
    3. If u know the truth why do u still cut & paste?
    4. If your book says Jesus was a JEW why believe he's coming back ONLY for Christians? if at all???


    to answer all 10 of your ?'s ............(The U-n-i-verse)

    Concerning the spirit now.....know that there is an unholy spirit as well! If as jesus said "to seek the truth and u will be made free" & Muhammad said the same thing when he said "seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave".....then our life's mission is to constantly evolve towards perfection and u can not find perfection in a BOOK. It must be found within yourselves first.........

    when the KJV unauthorized version came out Europe went savage (not that they were far from that anyway at that time) but they went savage because it was written for the aristocracy (not for you) so the poor couldn't understand the Shakespearian language........as u know Shakespear as brothe Keita pointed out already had a bible out under his true name of William Tyndale called the Tyndale version. So he was summoned by the king along with 46 other scholars and he put his name in the middle of the BOOK! Check Psalms 46 (due to the 46 scholars who helped) count 46 words in you'll see SHAKE.......count 46 words from the back and you'll see SPEAR......14 words down you'll see WILL........32 words up you'll see I AM (WILL - IAM) and 14+32 = (you do the math)

    I am not your enemy.............the enemy lies within!

    as always peace...........
     
  3. karmashines

    karmashines Banned MEMBER

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    I guess being that I'm not a Christian I could qualify to answer your questions, so I will. :eek:)

    1. In every good action of your life who gets the glory?

    I thank God quite often for all of the blessings He/She has bestowed upon me.

    2. For all that goes wrong in your life who gets the blame?

    Depends. If I did something to contribute to something going badly in my life, then I'll blame myself. If not, then I would ask God why, which I think is human nature. Even Christianity teaches that... look at the book of Job.

    3. When we die what do we take with us from this world to the next?

    Nothing physical. What goes with us into the next realm are the aspects that make up our spirit; our personality, emotional attachments to other people, talents, etc.

    4. What race is God?

    He/She has no race. That is a concept created by men (mainly white men) to divide and conquer.

    5. What sex is God?

    Both man and woman.

    6. What does God want from me?

    I believe God wants for me what I want in my life, which would include fulfilling my innermost desires, (so long as these desires would contribute to the goodness and well-being of myself, my family, and other human beings).

    7. What do I want from God?

    I wish that He/She would communicate with us more directly. Though I believe very strongly in God, it's frustrating knowing that, (at least in this realm), I will never be able to see or hear Him/Her in the way that I can see and hear a human being on earth.

    8. Who do you serve?

    God, myself, and my family.

    9. Where does my strength lie?

    I believe that God has given every human the ability to find strength within themsleves, through persistance and determination.

    10. Why are things the way they are for me?

    99.9% of the reason why things are the way they are in my life is because of the actions that I have taken in the course of my existence. This includes both physical and spiritual actions.
     
  4. GP

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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL This is funny. Pssssssssst Psalms 119 is the middle of the Bible, nice try,also, no disrespect here, but a 4th grader can read and understand the Bible, so yes it was written for anyone who seeks the truth.2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear,lest somehow, as the serpent decieved Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the SIMPLICITY that is in Christ. I see a whole lotta craftiness up in dis here forum. Saints of the Most Holy God.......put on your whole armor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Lord Yes! Amen Brotha! My goodness...you finna git cho self a good spanking ni. But, hey those persecuted for Christ's sake git a righteous blessing right behind the spanking don't they? Anyways with your armour on, you won't even feel the "spanking" and it will only come back on the one who brought it. Guess I better join ya cuz persecution is sho coming on that last statement of yoin'. :playball:

    -joyce
     
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    peace,

    - u only responded to one line out of all of what I said - what's wrong u don't want to address the fact that u found Shakespears name "GP" ?? - surely one who calls himself God's property can bear witness to what he has investigated with TRUTH........ :cardio: I'm in great shape brotha & I've seen how your mind gets weary & u collapse - I'm only here to offer some mental excercise to keep u in shape......take it or leave it alone, it's on you bra!!!

    "no disrespect here"........that's what's funny as this is all "you" do!!!!!! b4 one responds they should look carefully at their words and what they are responding too....a 4th grader can do a whole lot of things, but what most 4th graders won't do is lie about what they have read! The craftiness lies in your book and Psalms 46 that I was referring too which is the middle of the KJV.....You can call me a serpent, but just remember I did not put Jesus's words in red hypocrite!!!!!!!!

    You respond to this a month & a half later & this is all you & your cheering section can come up with.....?? yes, put on your whole armor saints you're going to need it if you continue to walk in foolishness!! Might I suggest that you read another 14 verses down in 2 corithians & see what "Your" brotha paul says about himself as a follower of the one u mistakenly call Christ...

    the gloves are off as u can not bob & weave as u like with me on different threads...........leave in peace on one, then try to attack me to help out a fellow "Christ - I -anity" on another hypocrites - but I am not surprised as u do not follow Christ, but most christians follow the hypocrite Paul & I don't expect u to fall to far away from your father..........

    let's do it ---------- I'm right here waiting!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    peace sista,

    persecution from whom sista, as I only feel pitty for the brotha & those who choose to ignore the abundance of knowledge set forth in the Universal plan of the creator of the Universe. To submit yourself to a book (that is incomplete at that) is to submit oneself to a level of blindness. Your minds are not free & it is very evident to those around you who read your comments, but don't respond for they know a Christians wrath. I on the other hand choose to respond to try & help u to free your mind whether or not u choose to persecute me :kick: :kick: knowing u will - but as u said sista -

    I don't feel your spankin's or "God's Property" for the arms of the "slave masters religion" are too short to box, so no need for me to put any armor on!!!!!!!!

    I feel like takin' a ride :horse: :horse: :horse: - I'll be back though..........
     
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    Amen RA Info!
     
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    This is worthy of thought by all who read this. Life is a function of knowing...not of faith. Faith is for those who do not know.
     
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    Up to this point I had much respect for you in that you appeared to have a unique skill of disagreeing without disrespecting, but surely you overstepped your boundaries with these comments.

    Let's not start mud slinging because I will certainly sling it back at you:pie: without hesitation. Please note, that I have never said anything about YOUR books that you have submitted yourself to or what you believe in. So let's not get into the dissing bag with each other...okay? You will not win on this and MaMa Destee will be spanking both of us for real. Cause I'm not gonna stand for any of this kind of talk from you or anybody else when you are speaking directly to me. Please do not take my tolerance of other people's beliefs or the fact that I say nothing when someone starts a new "I'm against Jesus and the bible" thread...for weakness, because I am not weak by no means when it comes to somebody dissing my faith to MY face as you have done here...am I suppose to smile and grin OR take a stand? Wouldn't you take a stand for your beliefs if someone told you that you were blind in believing them? Then don't expect less of me, my brotha. If you continue with this method of dialoguing with me, believe me it will be on.

    You said: To submit yourself to a book (that is incomplete at that) is to submit oneself to a level of blindness.

    I assume you are speaking of the Bible. This book changed my life. You don't know where it has brought me from nor the radical change that has come about in my life because of it. You weren't there in my midnight hours when I had nothing to hold on to but Psalms 23. You weren't there when 9 doctors told my husband that he would never walk again. You weren't there when he prayed the scriptures given to him from his pastor and weeks later, the word in him wrought a miracle at a prayer meeting. I could name many many instances of the power of this book, honey. But since you don't believe in it anyway that is mute...for you anyhow. However, what I choose to submit myself to is my business just like the books you have chosen for truth concerning your life. The bible may be spiritually blinding to YOU, but to me it is a marvelous light, full of wisdom, knowledge and power. It has proven the be the most life changing element in my faith.

    Proverbs 8:9-10
    Give instruction to a wise man and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man and he will increase in learning. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.



    You also said: I on the other hand choose to respond to try & help u to free your mind...


    Now Infometry, if you weren't speaking from the point of ignorance, I would take offense to that. I can't believe you went there like that. But seeing that you are so far off point, I'll just let you slide with this silliness. Do you honestly think that I would submit MY renewed mind to your counsel and let you hang me up with YOUR :puke: hangups??? You are NOT perfect.
    I don't care what level you think you (whether it's the 9th or 20th ether) have arrived at, you are certainly not God. You have to poop and pee just like I do...how can you set my mind free when YOUR mind is in bondage???

    John 8:36
    36Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.




    Are you implying that you can be of more help to me than
    Jesus??? :confused:
    Oh Lord, I hope you are not hanging that far off the edge! :eek:
    Thanks honey, but no thanks. Before you can even approach my mind, you must first free YOURS from those vain philosophies of yours :hammer2: .

    Peace???
     
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