Black People : Question for Brother Keita

[cherryblossom]

The woman's encyclopedia of myths and secrets By Barbara G. Walker

http://books.google.com/books?id=CB...&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=*****&f=false

Because of the banned word in the link, the actual page won't show; but I did a search within the book for the B-word. The results show only 3 references in it:

On page 17: Alani

“Hunting Dogs,” Greek names for the Scythian tribes who worshiped Artemis as their Divine Huntress. The name Alan still carried the originial Greek meaning of a hunting dog when it became popular among the Scots during the Middle Ages. Artemis was often called the “Great B*tch,” and her hunting priestesses were the “sacred b*tches” who chased, killed, and consumed boar-gods and stag-gods like Phorcis or Actaeon. Thus, to Christians, “son of a b*tch” meant a devil worshipper---that is, a pagan devotee of the goddess. (See “Dog.)

On page 378: Hecabe/Hecate (var. Hecuba)

Matriarchal queen of Troy, embodying the spirit of the Moon-goddess Hecate, whose name was the same as her own. Hecabe's “daughters” (priestesses) had divinatory powers, and the ability to cast spells as shown by the legend of Cassandra. Hecabe herself laid effective curses. When captured by her enemies, she transformed herself into Hecate's totemic shape, a black b*tch named Maera, Mara, or Moera, the Destroying Fate....

On page 864: Romulus and Remus

Offspring of Rhea Silvia, nurslings of the Etruscan wolf b*tch Lupa, these familiar twins were generally regarded as founders of Rome...

Page 240: Dog

No one knows when man first domesticated the dog. Evidence suggests that “man' didn't do it at all; woman did it. In myth, dogs accompanied only the Goddess, guarding the gates of her after-world, helping her to receive the dead......Dogs, wolves and jackals were associated with funerary customs. Dogs carried the dead to their mother.....

 

[Kamau47]

I just saw this post.

However, I did read your statements. I even quoted you and bolded the parts I referenced when I posed those 3 questions.

I did not say you said it wasn't foul when Blacks use it nor did I even intimate it. I simply asked you 3 questions to get your opinion on a "n*gger -vs- b*tch" comparison.

Please don't jump to any conclusions of what I may think or what I may think you think.

Actually, I didn't assume anything. I simply asked 3 questions.

Fair enough.

Let me just say this. That when the "N" word is said to me by a white person, we will be moving some furniture around. It is no question in my mind what they are saying to and about me when they use it towards me. But when a black person uses it towards me, I am almost certain they are not meaning it in the same way it was meant originally. If I'm out in a black club, the word is not being used to degrade or humiliate me. But in a white club, I'm most likely to be found hanging in a tree the next morning or being drug behind a pick up truck. I am not advocating or justifying the word, just saying I know the intention of the user by the color of their skin. Good or bad, that's just the way it is.
As for the "B" word, how many times is it used to describe an inanimate object or idea (Life's a b*t*h! Ain't that a b*t*h!). It's even been used as a reference towards men. Again, I'm not trying to justify the word, but I do understand where it's coming from and how it's being used. It is what it is.
In my home, neither is allowed by either family or guests. I have given a few good *** whoopin's to my children for letting it slip (and for any child welfare workers out there, yea, I said whoopin's. These are mine!). Hey, when I was 8, I watched my father almost take off a man's head with a shovel for calling my mother that "B" word, and I am my father's son.
The "B" word is a horrible word in my opinion that has been used against our sisters (I say sisters because honestly, I could care less about a white woman feelings). But it is pale in comparison to the "N" word. If a white calls me a "B", I'm gonna call him a few choice ones of my own. If he calls me the "N" word, you'll read about it saying it's a shame what Kamau did to that white man.

 

[cherryblossom]

Fair enough.

Let me just say this. That when the "N" word is said to me by a white person, we will be moving some furniture around. It is no question in my mind what they are saying to and about me when they use it towards me. But when a black person uses it towards me, I am almost certain they are not meaning it in the same way it was meant originally. If I'm out in a black club, the word is not being used to degrade or humiliate me. But in a white club, I'm most likely to be found hanging in a tree the next morning or being drug behind a pick up truck. I am not advocating or justifying the word, just saying I know the intention of the user by the color of their skin. Good or bad, that's just the way it is.
As for the "B" word, how many times is it used to describe an inanimate object or idea (Life's a b*t*h! Ain't that a b*t*h!). It's even been used as a reference towards men. Again, I'm not trying to justify the word, but I do understand where it's coming from and how it's being used. It is what it is.
In my home, neither is allowed by either family or guests. I have given a few good *** whoopin's to my children for letting it slip (and for any child welfare workers out there, yea, I said whoopin's. These are mine!). Hey, when I was 8, I watched my father almost take off a man's head with a shovel for calling my mother that "B" word, and I am my father's son.
The "B" word is a horrible word in my opinion that has been used against our sisters (I say sisters because honestly, I could care less about a white woman feelings). But it is pale in comparison to the "N" word. If a white calls me a "B", I'm gonna call him a few choice ones of my own. If he calls me the "N" word, you'll read about it saying it's a shame what Kamau did to that white man.

LMBO!

 

[MRS. LADY]

I agree with the acronym

philosophy...

language is communication... creation comes by way of intent of the heart and spoken word from the throat..

if one applies someone elses' intent and word to their being that is a synonym for slave... being controlled ...

as a woman thinketh so is she...

the one speaking the hatred is only hating themself and that is their choice...

regardless what color they are because speech has no color, but ironically enough it allows one's true colors to shine bright or reamain dark...

Ma'at Hotep

 

[cherryblossom]

Now, as I see it, this isn't much different than recoining the term Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished. The Bottom line is that the name is intended to invoke the vibration of hate and degradation in most cases. Where it is said out of jest, or for some people comraderie, the ignorance speaks for itself.

philosophy...

language is communication... creation comes by way of intent of the heart and spoken word from the throat..

if one applies someone elses' intent and word to their being that is a synonym for slave... being controlled ...

as a woman thinketh so is she...

the one speaking the hatred is only hating themself and that is their choice...

regardless what color they are because speech has no color, but ironically enough it allows one's true colors to shine bright or reamain dark...

Ma'at Hotep

This reminds me of the "Philosophy Of Language" and its components of meaning, usage, cognition and relationship in reality. It's usually a favorite of those who believe words only have the "power" we give them.

I agree with the acronym

*************** (Never Ignorant About Getting Goals Accomplished) lyrics
(feat. Jadakiss)

Album: Loyal To The Game (2004) [remixes of previously unreleased music recorded by Tupac Shakur before his death in 1996. Produced by Eminem.]
http://www.elyrics.net/read/t/tupac...about-getting-goals-accomplished)-lyrics.html
[Intro] (2Pac)
******! (Yeah!) (Uh)
******!

[Verse: 2Pac]
Who's afraid of the punk police?
****** run the streets, no justice no peace
**** the law, rather draw than do time
Don't **** with mine, cross the line, my two nines
go baya baya when I shoot 'em
Korean motha******s was crooked, so ****** had to burn and loot 'em
Now the streets ain't safe at night
My ******! Straight take his life
So don't sleep when my Jeep creep up, how we hit 'em
Empty the clip, then dip cuz we did 'em
Lickin' of shots for Latasha that's proper
Love for my ****** but a glock for the coppers
So what the **** you wanna do now
I packed a .9 last year, in '99 I'm packin' 2 now
And even if they pull their triggers
They can shoot one man, but nothings gonna stop the plan of true ******

[Chorus (2Pac)]
******! (Yeah ******, you can't **** with us)
******! (Cuz bein' a ***** means you love ******)
******!...."


Well, he didn't live to see '99. So I guess he got his "goals accomplished."