Black Spirituality Religion : Queen of Sheba Initiation

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  1. cherryblossom

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    I. "Initiation" into what?

    II. If these were different women, wouldn't the title of "Queen" be a misnomer to reference all of them by such?


    III. Who, then, was Makeda?
     
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    I'm going to be really vague because there some really funky people on destee.com right now that I'm not feeling... i can't put finger on it but something weird is going here.:whip:

    That being said,

    If you want more info than what i can share let me know and we can communicate in another manner.

    Queen of Sheba,(hebrew tradition) makeda(Ethiopian tradition) Bilquis Sungbo, iyaami (Nigeria) Baliquis(Islam) all come from one source...they are titles in above traditions given to a group of women.

    SUNGBO'S EREDO - AFRICA'S LARGEST SINGLE MONUMENT

    This kingdom boundary rampart ditch extends for 160 km and is over 1000 years old. It's association with the Islamic Queen of Sheba legends may date to the same period. This is the first definite proof that state formation occurred in the rainforest zone at the same time as in Africa's savannah zone. Bilikisu Sungbo's grave is a national monument, but not yet the great ditch she had ordered her slaves to dig .. but the ditch needs protecting.


    http://apollo5.bournemouth.ac.uk/africanlegacy/sungbo_eredo.htm

    temple in Yemen saba: symbols associated with Makeda in the Ethiopia tradition were found in this temple:

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sun_temple.jpg
     
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    Was the Queen of Sheba really a black woman from Nigeria?

    By Simon Edge
    The Express, Monday May 24 1999

    A British Archaeologist believes he may have found the lost kingdom of the Queen of Sheba. The site, in the rainforests of Nigeria, is thousands of miles from her supposed home in Arabia.

    The Bible tells how the Queen of Sheba travelled to King Solomon's court, bearing gold, jewellry and spices. Because of this, scholars have assumed she lived in Yemen, gateway of the spice route to Palestine. Others believe she may have been based in Ethiopia.

    But Dr Patrick Darling, of Bournemouth University, says the Nigerian site, which he first visited in 1994 and has since been secretly mapping, is just as good a candidate.

    "We have living proof that it was a powerful kingdom, and there are many links that have similarities to the Queen of Sheba legend," he said yesterday.

    The site includes mud walls up to 70ft high and a 100-mile earthwork ditch. Its existence was first mooted by the Portuguese explorer Pacheebo Pereiro 500 years ago, and it has been a place of local pilgrimage for many years.

    Dr Darling, who swore to secrecy the students who accompanied him to the site, said: "The earthwork, which is larger than the pyramids in Eygpt, was built in remembrance of some great figure. Stories talk of a powerful goddess or giantess."

    But he admitted he has yet to find evidence of a royal palace.

    In local legend, the Queen is known as Bilikisu Sungbo. Scholars accept that she was a wealthy but childless black woman, who probably bore little resemblance to Gina Lollobrigida, the Itallian sex symbol who immortalised her in the 1950s Hollywood film Solomon and Sheba.

    Dr Darling said the riches associated with her court would have been available in that part of West Africa.

    "There was gold in Ghana, or the Gold Coast as it used to be called," he said. "Ivory also comes from that area." The only possible snag to the question is dating.


    The Queen of Sheba is supposed to have lived 3,000 years ago, but preliminary soil samples from the site so far indicate that the settlement is only 1,200 years old[/B]....

    http://www.bnvillage.co.uk/black-roots-village/81396-queen-sheba-really-black-woman-nigeria.html
     
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    Perhaps she is the same as Queen Makeda who is credited with founding the Axumite empire and perhaps she died in the area of concern in modern Nigeria. Keep in mind that in the specific historical era there was no "Nigeria" but there was Axum. Furthermore, it is possible that she left Axum and settled in the area of modern Nigeria.

    I think this is where we need to look closer at Yoruba oral tradition and what the Yoruba have chronicled as their origins.

    I find this an interesting read which can be downloaded.

    http://cohesion.rice.edu/CentersAndInst/SAFA/emplibrary/49_ch09.pdf
     
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    Yesterday, after posting concerning the historical migration eastwards from KANO, I did some researh on pyramid structures in West Africa, Nigeria in particular, where there are what have been described as natural pyramidal structures. This brings into question some other factors. IS there evidence of man/woman-made pyramidal structures in the area of Nigeria or other ancient empires that were involved in the ivory trade?

    http://sandorian.us/newslog2.php/__show_article/_a000245-000008.htm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/353462.stm

    http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/30/143.html

    http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-52783.0.html

    http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-52783.0.html

     
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    you are delusional read your Quran again....i'm not wasting any more energy on you.
     
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    Please clarify that there is no such animal as "Islamic Queen of Sheba legends". The subject matter originated long before the Islamic Era in history. So, it was not even possible for that to have been.
     
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    @omowale she is not one person, looking at evidence it is impossible for her to be one person..and there are oral traditions in Nigeria alludes to that fact, but I'm not going into it aspect on destee.
     
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    Chapter and verse please. Do not expect any intelligent person to take your word for it.
     
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    Who is Bilqis in the Quran then SHEIKH?????????
     
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