Black People : PROTECTION VS. REVENGE

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  1. lilpea

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    Hello family....

    A few week ago I was in a discussion about the movie "Crash" and the question came up if you were in your car with your wife and some cops came up and pull u over for going through a yellow light. Now while they[the cops] ran your plates and license one of the officers got fresh with your wife. What would u do? My answer was that I would try and protect her... in what ever way necessary. Most in the discussion seem to think that by standing by and letting whatever happen to happen and not do anything to cause yourself to be arrested was the better way to handle the situation. Then try and seek revenge later. What really got me was most of the sisters agreed.

    As I stated this discussion was a few weeks ago and I have been pondering this scenario every sense. And for the life of me I just can't seem to wrap my head around that waiting for revenge stuff. What is happening is happening right then and there. In your face..up close and very personal..What the hell does revenge have to do with protecting your woman?...I just don't see it. I could see if you were not there and found out about it later. But it is happening right then and there. In your face..up close and very personal. Are we still on the plantation on our knees? Or are we men... men who's job it is suppose to be... to protect our women?

    Still pondering....
    Lilpea :1on1:
     
  2. Da Street So'ja

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    see how women are, plotting revenge and stuff

    hahahahahahahhahaa just kiddin' ladies had to get that in it was too easy

    anyways BIGLILPEA

    what type of revenge will/can you bring on a "to be determined later"
    basis? to the police no less that train of thought my work in the streets but against cops to make them pay, well make sure you can bring it like the movie
    assault on the 13th Precinct

    it has to be address RIGHT THERE, EVEN IF YOU GET ARRESTED
    I'M GOING GET ARRESTED PROTECTING MY QUEEN
    there are real cops out there, a cop that would do what was done in CRASH
    is a punk, a little boy

    GUN OR NO GUN BADGE OR NO BADGE, i'm protecting my women
    of course you can't make rash decision but sometimes you need to do the
    unexpected, like slap the ish of him and take my chances in court

    yes you might spend time in jail and lose your job and stuff

    so you have to think before you act

    and that's why our hands are tied here because it's dealing with a dirty cop

    as oppose to just some knucklehead in the streets

    i think it comes down to picking and choosing your battles

    BUT I WOULD STAND UP IMMEDIATELY AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WAS
    UNACCEPTABLE, whatever happens after that i'll take it from there

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  3. Bootzey

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    Sweet Pea, you and all the men need to discuss that at the next Men's chat forum. I'd be interested in the conclusions.
     
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    I'm a chess player so I know all about reckless moves regardless of what is going on....therefore I tend to treat life just like that chess game except in life the pieces don't come back that you lose, so you better move right the first time. That means to THINK AND THEN ACT.
     
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    Hello lilpea :)

    That's a tough one, that particular situation - if anything, my partner would be trying to stop me from damaging the cop. grrrr.

    In reference to the movie, I was not impressed with how the woman just stood there and took it, without a word.. her eyes pleading towards her man for protection only emphasised how far removed she was from reality. She thought she was white, right? An honorary white because of her background - she dogged him often for not playing the white game and she finally realized she had a bum hand no matter how hard she played. She didnt even show her cards! grrrr.

    I do not imagine any Black woman would want her man beaten and jailed with NO JUSTICE in sight as we know very well the LAW will be protecting it's cop. And thats how it would be played out in court when my man got there:

    cop: I was checking her for weapons
    lawyer: did she object in any way?
    cop: not at all.

    so who wins? I can tell you who loses with 100% certainty.

    Does it make my partner less of a man? absolutely not. When fighting against the 'long arm of the white law' we need to be together and work together. dividing us is the best they can do, and had you responded and gotten yourself jailed.. they would have succeeded. crap that.

    I would prefer revenge. I'm cold that way ;) I'm not talking about lodging a formal complaint - I'm talking chess moves. I'll take revenge one step at a time, because I also know there are others fighting for my rights on a larger and louder scale. Every Black person plays a role in our liberation, and mine are at grass root level.

    Dont get me wrong, I love the feeling of security and protection from a man - but I also recognize that some battles can only be won together, and we both will need to take a few punches before we get there.

    :heart:
     
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    very true

    i'm not reckless but sometimes whatever gonna happen is gonna happen

    i like your analogy to chess here it makes so much sense
     
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    Yes, DSS - think then act. and together we are unbeatable :heart:
    together we can ensure the man wont have fingers to feel anyone up again.. hehehehe

    my bad ;)
     
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    i appreciate your point of view sista Z


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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    SISTA Z


    THANK YOU

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    While you're busy thinking and planning

    "SMH"

    While you're busy planning and thinking...he's out there doing the same thing to your daughters and sisters...mayby even your mother... But to each his/her own. Personally I'd willingly go to jail if just to bring some attention to the situation and him off the streets. After that, then it's time for revenge.

    Lilpea :1on1:
     
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