Black Spirituality Religion : PROTECTED BY SPIRITS OR SECRETS?

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  1. Metaverse

    Metaverse Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    ZeroPoint wrote:
    Hey...Meta you seem to continously refer to secret societies being protected by oracles and/or the spiritual realm...how exactly do you tap into/get in contact with this spiritual realm?....ive asked this before and received very valuable answers but im interested in everybodys opinion and i am seeking yours also.....what/who are these secret societies/mafia in contact with/what rituals do they do to do what they do??.....and is this the x factor that dr king ,malcolm x ,marcus garvey tupac, and marley etc were missing out on......if they were in contact with the spiritual side....would they have not only been 10x more powerful but also still alive????

    True story. I knew a Brotha in New York who practiced a form of magic that he called said was taught to Japanese Samurai's. He was very deep into everything Japanese, he even kept a few swords on the wall. We met in one of my metaphysical classes. We'd sit around in a circle of people with long dreads, sandals, smelling like weed and incense talking about psychic powers and esoteric languages. But this Brotha was the most sinister of all of us. He told me things I dear not repeat here, but Bro. Darkside might chime in on this later on.

    I remember this Brother telling me personally about some of the people he tried to kill spiritually. He told me even some people in Government there in New York. He was one of the first to tell me some if not all of these people are protected, and that in fact they couldn't hold a place in public office unless they were- because secretly- contrary to popular belief systems- the world is still dominated and controlled by magic.

    He told me about a Man he tried to kill that had 12 rows of armed soldiers around him. He said that's the real reason for wars, that these soldiers spirits were tied into a contract spiritually to serve the American Government and that soldiers have to sign something to that affect when they enter into the Army or Military. I don't know how true that is. Now when I think back to that story, the movie "Lord of the Rings" comes to mind when the army of spirits had to come back out of the mountain to fight because they had made a contract with the King before he died.

    I know for a fact we can tap into this type of spiritual protection just by asking. As far as Malcolm X, Tupac and others being about to live longer because of their ability to gain protection from the spiritual world- well, it all depends on where we "consciously" draw our spiritual power from. If you have a religion, and that religion is the source of your spiritual power- those who control your religion with real magic control you. There's no way around that one. Our great Teachers like Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey and even Bob Marley had a sense of vision that allowed them to foresee certain events and surrender to them. What we can also question is perhaps we are all protected up until a certain point when our contract is up.

    Secret societies keep certain rituals from the Ancients intact in order to transfer their power correctly from one generation to the other. All these rituals are African, but there is always a debate going about how complete they are. Yet obviously completely enough, at least until we gain the awareness to reactive the information our enemies do not have yet.

    They know enough even from their own pagan customs that the spirit world runs everything. Every kindergarten magic student knows it. The invisible runs the visible. The unknown runs the known, the darkness projects the light. You know how many dark magicians have tried to take the president out by now?
    So why does he lay in his bed sleeping comfortably while so many are here trying to use their spiritcraft against him? Yeah we might give him a cold or a black eye. But by the time we get to the 2nd layer of energy that protects some of these people we are burnt out. Maybe we are thinking about it the wrong way.

    They aren't just protect by spirits, but by secrets as well. Secrets that we have yet to discover about ourselves.
     
  2. ZeroPoint

    ZeroPoint Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Deep....this is the part I am most interested in at this point in expanding my awareness......When you say..."thinking about it the wrong way" what exactly do you mean.....and what are some ways and rituals to tap into this sort of "protection".....any suggested readings??
     
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    Nsala malecum,

    Someone of another nso asked my godbrother how to pull the spirit from a living person. One of my godbrothers received an nkisi that our godfather told him all he needs to do is write the person's (intended victim) name down and stick it on his nkisi and the person will die in 21 days.

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    Pardon me,

    I wrote my last post in haste. I wish to clarify a few things. There is a story about Malcolm X taking a trip to Nigeria and while there, he supposedly had an Ifa consultation done. It was on this trip he received the name Omowale. Well, the babalawo told him Ifa saw his pending death and actually prescribed an ebo (sacrifice) to do to prevent misfortune. Malcolm is recorded to have denied any ebo due to his strong belief in Allah and Islam.

    Indeed, when one is scratched over the nganga and definitely once one take the initiation of Tata or Yayi Nkisi, the initiate enters into a pact with the dead. Afterward, one acquires an "army of deceased souls" that work for you. Yes, it is quid pro quo, but the bond is made nevertheless. In my world, there are countless of mini-wars waged on a psychic level and the main concern of one involved in what I am involved in is protection. We receive ritually markings that house what is called in Haitian Vodou a gad. This is a spirit that lives or shares your flesh and it protects you from misfortune. Many times, it will attack the aggressor for you on a psychic and sometimes physical level.

    Yes "secrets" exist and can be seen if you know what you are looking for. Simple gestures and subte handshakes hide many secrets. Many of these actions are so brief that they may go unnoticed by the untrained naked eye. Energy exchanges and recognition is what is being utilized. Certain pressure points or energy is being manipulated. It is speculated that El Commandant, Fidel Castro, was made in Africa and everytime he puffs on his cigar he is manipulating the flow of energy. It is known that the CIA have tried to assassinate him on a few occasions. Protection many times comes with involvement. One does not have to be initiated, but the spirits must be able to recognize you and its mainly through initiation, you learn "secrets" to control the hyper-reality of this existence. Many of these secrets, although they have evolved or changed through the centuries, have become "lost knowledge" or "house secrets (lessons)" or "crown jewels" passed down through symbolic kinship and affiliation forged via initiation. Books are a good resource to get a slight glimpse, but one never knows the actual keys unless they are "made" to a certain tradition. The reason is upon initiation one takes a oath of secrecy never to relay what is taught or learned. This oath is made to the spiritual lineage of that tradition. What's the expression? Loose lips sink ships and sometimes the knowledge one is taught, if placed in the hands of one not properly trained or without the proper "license", the use of can have diastrous consequences.

    The Yoruba term Babalawo means baba (father) + awo (secrets) so "father of secrets." The Haitian Vodou term Houngan means "Master of the Spirits"; whereas, the feminine counterpart Mambo is "Mother of the Spirits." The Kongo term Nganga means "Master."

    Skull and Bones have an occult secret to harness the collective energy of the original inhabitants of this country and shape it into a egregore that is used to consolidate their power. It is a necromancy style that heightens the force to create a Voltron effect. It is disguised in the ikons of the First Nations people. I see it as a giant Indian with a gigantic tomahawk, but playing for the wrong team sorta like Apache Chief on Superfriends. He used to grow big by saying, "Inuk-chuk", and sprinkling dust. On one episode, he subdued a bear (Russia) without violence to show his power and strength. Interestingly, Skull and Bones had the skull of Geronimo, the Apache "chief".

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    Has there ever been talks about different African traditions coming together as one unified force like the freemasons?
     
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    A few things about this......one the malcolm x thing is interesting because i hear alot about sacrifices in exchange for "other side" protection......i read something along these lines that stated this is the reason the most successful politicians are all for the death penalty.....Two, how does one become initiated?.......Three, the deal with S&B having geronimos head, does this mean that they posses his soul and hes working for them or what...this is one of the things that have confused me....any suggested readings on re-discovering the ancient knowledge of dealing with the other side and communicating with these fellow beings....What exactly are some of these secrets that they posses?......and yes fidel castro's effortless escape from various assasination attempts have always amazed me.........
     
  7. Yardlee

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    Question . . . can a necromancer take the remains of anybody and make their spirit/soul subservient to the necromancer? Whether it be an unknown john doe or the remains of an Egyptian pharaoh?

    Question about this spiritual and psychic war . . . can you elaborate more on the war between the european high ranking occultists versus the ATR practicioners? Also, if an individual's only main source of occult knowledge and rituals is through books, does that mean they won't have true spiritual power or be as powerful as those that are initiated into an actual occult practice?
     
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    ZeroPoint, I'm sure there are tons of books you can read. One of my first was "How to meet and work with spirit guides" by Ted Andrews, which was a purchase out of curiosity. But then when I learned how to channel, I also learned how to used my mind as a deck of tarots. When I ask a question with my eyes closed staring into the darkness- images show up. Much like that recent fantasy tale - "The Golden Compass" - my mind is that compass.

    But there are so many different methods used to tap into the spirit realm. I've learned here that Bro. BlackBird, Bro. Darkside, Queen PurpleMoons, Sis. CursedHeart, Bro. MenNefer, Bro. Keita, Mother Destee- everyone is tapping into it, we just find our own personalized system.

    The knowledge is everywhere, we just have to know where to look. There's is even a Japanese Cartoon called "The Shamanic Princess" that I've found very interesting. Play close attention to how she "invokes" her power through the use of a sigil of magic that appears in the palm of her hand. As well as the words used- she asks her spirits to "fulfill their contract."



    There are psychic and spiritual wars like this one taking place all the time around us. In the real world, beyond religious illusions- we are all tied to spirits anyway. Usually our Ancestors from the bloodlines of our Mother and Father. "Tapping into the spiritual realm" has to start with our ability to communicate with them in some way. Meditation, prayer, song, art, music, dance all the methods are used for that purpose.

    Different types of rituals work. The key is what are invoking as we use these methods? What are we invoking with our music, art, songs, prayers and meditations. Are we invoking the sigils of our enemies or the sigils of our Ancestors? Are we invoking the daemons of Europeans, or the daemons of bloodline that runs through us?

    "Proper spiritual contact" is not only vital to our health but to our overall destiny. I'm sure Fidel Castro knows about this, learning as much as he has about Afro-Cuban magic. I'm even more sure Min. Farrakhan knows about this, because before Islam what were his roots? Farrakhan is of a Jamaican bloodline on his Father's side and St. Kitts bloodline on his Mothers. Many forget he was a Calypso Singer. A fact many try to use against him- but West Indian bloodlines and Southern bloodlines in my opinion are very similar connected by magical practices hidden behind their religions.

    As far as why I believe we might be thinking about it the wrong way if our intention is to take out a certain Official through the use of magic, seeing how protected this individual is, what happens is that our power is exhausted. For example the Pope isn't just protected by a "Pope Mobile" that's just for the people who want to throw rocks, cans and perhaps bullets. It is rumored the Pope uses Ancient enchantments learned from the many books hidden in the Vatican.

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    Gandalf fought with both magic and with the sword. The Pope is likened to a "White Wizard" using both magic and war to protect his empire.
    So how would a magician battle with such powers? So many, so unknown, so many layers? The point is, you don't. Only a fool battles with unknown power unless he/she is trained or initiated in such arts. You go after the weakest part of the fortress, not the strongest. You blow up the levee, not the city. As a negative spirit told me in a dream "I can't attack you, because you are too strong- but I can attack her." And it pointed at my Queen at that time. Which is why I can't be with anyone who is weak spirituality because the affair will end in time. When we find the weaknesses we attack those. Attacking a strong point will only exhaust your power. The book "The Art of War" is also a key to psychic and spiritual battles.
     
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    LET ME START OFF WITH THIS, THE REAL SECRET IS....... THERE IS NO SECRET.
    BOOKS ARE GUIDES AND WILL HELP YOU IN THE BEGINNING BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU DO IT. TO ME THIS HAVE TO BE YOUR JOB 24/7.IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW THINGS WILL MANIFEST TO YOU TO GET IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP YOU. NOW WITH THAT SAID I FEEL IF U IN REAL DEEP ONE CAN INITIATE THEMSELVES WHERE ENTITIES WILL COME AND HELP YOU BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE SIGNS. THINGS A PERSON CAN DO IS CREATE THEIR OWN SIGILS AND MANIFEST THINGS WHICH IS ELEMENTAL SORCERY.MOST OF YOUR RAPPERS ESP. THE NYC ONES IS DOWN WITH THIS FROM 50 CENT WHO PRACTICE VOUDON TO BUSTA RHYMES **** JENNIFER LOPEZ IS A VOUDON PRIESTESS SO IF YOU WANT IT YOU CAN GET IT. ON A SIDE NOTE ON TUPAC, TUPAC WAS PROTECTED BUT ANGER THE SPIRITS WHEN HE DID SOMETHING HE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DO AND "ALLOWED" HIM TO GET KILLED.
     
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    What did Tupac do that removed his spiritual protection? sounds interesting. You made a point about it being a job, it definitely is. There is so much information out there, sometimes its overwhelming to know where just to start.

    I slacked off since the last couple of months on sigil magick. I need to experiment with other forms of gnosis because "bustin a nut" for every magick spell as it states in most text on sigil magick is a bit much and I have plenty more spells I need to cast. LOL
     
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