Black Hebrew Israelites : proofs against the black hebrew claim...

[abuyusufalshafii]

You sound like you have a lot of self pity and you clearly aren't an expert so don't worry about that. You keep on mentioning you alleged credentials as if that makes a difference in an internet debate.

And you've made some ridiculous claims all throughout this thread and than hid behind you alleged credentials.

Even if your credentials are real, it doesn't make your claims any more valid as most of your claims, as I pointed out elsewhere, are contrary to the Bible. The Bible is much more on my side than yours.

You can feel massive pity for yourself but the bottom line is you've never been a slave, so your living off of other peoples suffering for your self pity.

My family is half Slavic and the Slavs are where the word slave came from because we so frequently wound up as slaves from Eastern Europe but I don't feel self pity about it because that was a long time ago that that was the case.

I don't believe that you were ever on a slave ship, so don't sweat it yourself.

And don't tell me your lie doesn't make you feel good. Would you feel better if you admitted that you were not an Israelite?

That being said you have said many ridiculous things in this thread hiding behind your alleged credentials from modern colleges or university but I have had the Holy Spirit in my life regularly since late 2007 and that is much better credentials than a bachelors in biology or teaching language arts.

Sometimes it seems you argue points from on extreme to the next.

You said that Moses and Sarah were pail white people but you also claim that the Israelites are black. Even I know that Moses was brown in complexion but David and Solomon were beige in complexion. Sometimes I don't even know what side you are arguing from.

Now your coming with Persian rugs being the same texture as nappy hair and numerous other outlandish claims all thread long.

Lastly, in reality the Bible says very little about the race of the Israelites, yet people like you cling on to a few false interpretations and taking verses out of context for your claim.

The Bible is a beautiful library of books gathered together and I don't think you could come up with 10 verses that are clearly about race.

As for slave ships and going back to Egypt, black people aren't the only people that have been enslaved before and the Slavs have been enslaved frequently in the past and even taken on slave ships.

 

[abuyusufalshafii]

The Bible is a beautiful library of books gathered together and I don't think you could come up with 10 verses that are clearly about race.

not to mention these are all books of prophecy (Revelations, Daniel) and poetry which is more often than not intended literally.
After reading Song of Solomon it is clearly not a book about race although the bride in the book is very specific about having dark skin but she also says it was a tan but either way, I believe the Queen of Sheba was at least brown or black, as like you said, some of the ancient Israelites including Moses married Kushite women, but if you read most of the verses that some claim are about race, they are clearly figurative as they are surrounded by other verses that clearly aren't literal (eyes like beryl, like flame of fire and many other descriptions in Daniel and Isaiah), not to mention that the mention of someone like the son of man, feet like brass etc. is not in any way mentioned that Jesus is the one being referred to.

I do agree that Jesus wasn't white but your images of what you think are referring to Jesus depicting him look like an arrogant retired heavyweight boxer with a white beard. He could be Mister T with a different hairstyle. Very pathetic and laughable.

Its the opposite extreme from the images in the Sistine chapel, one extreme to the other.

Jesus, regardless of his race, was very humble and loving and was in no way racial biased or exclusive about race and even say very nice things about gentiles, all over the Gospels.

He never made much of a big deal about race and was clearly not obsessed with it like you are. He crowning attributes were love and humility. Not race pride or nationalism of any kind.

 

[Chevron Dove]

As for slave ships and going back to Egypt, black people aren't the only people that have been enslaved before and the Slavs have been enslaved frequently in the past and even taken on slave ships.

LOL!

The word SLAV stems from SLOVENE which were Black Hamitic typed peoples and the later Slavs stem from these origins. GEEZ.

And yes, I am a descendant of Slaves and have my ancestors documents.
Moses prophecy of the Slave Ship is the subject here, and so this does not negate other history about slave ships, I do understand this point.

 

[Chevron Dove]

He never made much of a big deal about race and was clearly not obsessed with it like you are. He crowning attributes were love and humility. Not race pride or nationalism of any kind.

Yes he did. Jesus came to address Satanism and the height of it is the Roman Empire system!!!
Satanism and White Supremacy is synonymous!
What do you think the Roman rulers look like!? Black? African?
Or were they White people?
Yes, Jesus Christ came to address White Supremacy and all humans, both Black and White and other are guilty of it.
We are all born in sin.

Who is supporting race pride and nationalism in this debate?
LOL! I am addressing your condescending remarks against people of African descent of whom are definitely victims of human sacrifice in relation to Biblical prophecy. smh.
Moses prophesized that his people, Hebrew Israelites, would become victims of the Slave Ship Trade era!
But you come into a Black forum and want to profess false statements and don't want to believe that the Hebrew Israelites are African. Nevertheless, we all know today what kind of people were forced on the bottom of slave ships!
LOL! So yes, the Bible definitely describes the Original Israelites and their sin for inter-mixing with foreign people that the Creator told them NOT to do and brought about--as the prophet Daneil said--CONFUSION OF FACE.

 

[abuyusufalshafii]

"And their body will be upon the street of the great city, which is called spiritually Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified" - Revelations 11 8 - referring to America without a doubt

Who do you think the two witnesses/martyrs were?

Anyhow, back to business as usual:, just was feeling curious.

Refutation of a Fake Hebrew



(His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters) NKJV

(his head and his hair were white as white wool, white as snow; his eyes were like a flame of fire, 15 his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters) RSV

(His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters) KJV,

Not the texture, but the color of wool.

jesus was not a white europeon nor a black african but somewhere between the two like the rest of the children of israel (varying levels between the two). I wrote a 6 page refutation with strong evidence against the race obsessed black fake hebrews, perhaps you'd like to see it

("all the prophets was black just face the facts like Vladimir Putin did sir")

After all the evidence I brought here all you have to see In response is all the prophets were black because Vladmir Putin said so. Pitiful.

Jesus was nice to the gentiles including the romans and preached a doctrine of love, humility and service, not racial supremacy or obsession of any race, or perhaps you've never heard of the new testament or read it?

is this the same Jesus that said if someone strikes you to turn the other cheek beating the sh&t out of a cracker, You must not have ever read the new testament, he was even nice to a roman soldier in the new testament and did a miracle for him as well as a Canaanitess (Syrio Phoenician in other narration). Yall must really be crazy. John the Baptist said he could raise up children for Abraham from these stones. Black people descended from the tribe of Kush and first ruled ancient Nubia and spread out to the rest of black Africa from there. Jesus was never obsessed with race nor was he white or black. you phonies are absurd, full of hatred and arrogance, almost thought you were joking for a second because it was so ridiculous.

those verses are also proofs against you, because there were also black people who sold other blacks into slavery and many cases of slavery throughout history besides the translatlantic slave trade, many even slavs and turks greeks etc were slaves and the verse in revelations, if you take the prophetic books as not being symbolic, which i don't, is, either way, a proof against you, not for you: "His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow (is blatantaly talking about the color not the texture of his hair, it even said like snow

in ezekiel (regarding your collective punishment theories) it even says that no father will be punished for the sins of his son nor any son be punished for the sins of his father, not to mentioned, many white people have been slaves throughout history and countless others certainly never owned slaves to begin with in 6000 years of human history, maybe you should study history without your racist demonic bias and you would see that

also there are other things to be special in besides singing dancing and playing sports, even the nephillim of enochs times could have done that not to mention the real children of israel were mostly afraid to enter canan because the people already living their were giants like the anakim, that doesn't sound like somthing Kushites would be afraid of with all their athletic and physical prowess

not to mention native americans have been in the americas since before both the babylonian and assyrian captivities and most latinos will tell you themselves as they know that their lineage is part native, part black slave and part white slavemaster so how did ya'll come up with something as stupid as black people being the tgribe of judah and puerto ricans being ephraimites, did ya'll just make that up randomly or was it claimed by one of your false prophets? if feel bad for that girl with the italian mother, guess half of her will be in hell and the other half in paradise since the only only thing people are judged by by you idiots is their race.

I'll let you get the last word, as it seems like the only thing you can or want to do.​