Black Hebrew Israelites : proofs against the black hebrew claim...

[abuyusufalshafii]

Why do you think the synagogue of Satan in revelations was talking about white people when there's no internal evidence to support that view and in context it was clearly talking about the Jews who rejected Jesus and how do you explain your views about Esau/Edom that they were the first whites and were evil when the Bible mentions that they could enter the congregation of the lord as converts after a certain amount of time?

 

[abuyusufalshafii]

If you believe that all the "real" jews moved to africa after the expulsion from Jerusalem after the Bar Kokhba revolt or the earlier 70 ad revolt how do you explain the many jews already abroad who were living in Babylonia, Syria and Yemen for centuries before that whose descnedants still live there and they are not African but middle eastern in appearance?

 

[cherryblossom]

DNA Backs a Tribe's Tradition Of Early Descent From the Jews​

By Nicholas Wade

• May 9, 1999

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The Lemba, a Bantu-speaking people of southern Africa, have a tradition that they were led out of Judea by a man named Buba. They practice circumcision, keep one day a week holy and avoid eating pork or piglike animals, such as the hippopotamus.
Several groups around the world practice Judaic rites or claim to be descended from biblical tribes without having any ancestral Jewish connection. And there is no Buba in the records of Jewish history.
But the remarkable thing about the Lemba tradition is that it may be exactly right. A team of geneticists has found that many Lemba men carry in their male chromosome a set of DNA sequences that is distinctive of the cohanim, the Jewish priests believed to be the descendants of Aaron. The genetic signature of priests -- a hereditary caste, different from rabbis but with certain ritual roles -- is particularly common among Lemba men who belong to the senior of their 12 groups, known as the Buba clan.
The discovery of the Lemba's Jewish ancestry has come about through the intertwining of two unusual strands of inquiry. One was developed by geneticists in the United States, Israel and England who wondered what truth there might be to the Jewish tradition that priests are the descendants of Aaron, the elder brother of Moses.

...continued... https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/09/...tradition-of-early-descent-from-the-jews.html

 

[abuyusufalshafii]

There is no historical precedent for the claims of the black hebrews (that the children of israil were black). Black people descend from Nubian Kush south of Egypt through Kush son of Ham son of Noah. This can be witnessed by the egyptian hieroglyphs some of which have pictures of a Nubian princess being married in Egypt. Egyptians are clearly distinguished from Nubians (check out Nefertitti's head sculpture. She had narrow features and was clearly not brown, unlike the people of Nubia from many paintings and sculptures. The Egyptians were bronze people not brown. The verses in revelations depicting Jesus as having wooly white hair and bronze (not brown) complexion are not a valid evidence because there are other people besides Nubians that have nappy hair (check out the people of Bahrayn (andother arabs too) not to mention that Solomon was mentioned as white and ruddy in song of solomon. To learn real ancient history refer to Josephus, Menethos (egyptian), Heredotus, Strabo, Pliny the Elder, Eusibius of Cesarea, ibn Khaldun, ibn Jarir al Tabari, ancient paintings and sculptures from Egypt, Mesopatamia and countless other nations etc. and of course the Bible itself.

Where do you get this idea that the children of Israel Nubians?

Its contrary to all historical knolwledge and has no precedent. History is based off of written reports, archaology, corraborative reports from other nations and the refined human intellect (for comprehension of the data).

If you reject ancient historical knowledge you are emptyheaded and could believe anything as long as it suits your desires. You need to learn real history and stay away from false prophets who appeal to your racial bias. Be objective from the start.

(note, im not a darwinist and fully believe on the strength of the Quran and Bible that all the tribes came from Adam and Eve and then through Noah and his sons.)

Bible history and its 6,000 year human history is a solid foundation (six thousand year days of creation and the 6,000 years of human history.

 

[abuyusufalshafii]

In the Bible itself it quotes that Jesus had bronze (not brown) complexion with wooly white hair but it also mentions Solomon as being white and ruddy. I don't believe that all the Israelites were the same color but were in the middle (give or take a little) (not as dark as kushites and not as pale as the germanic tribes of north west europe) and the verses affirm this.

Also in Muslim hadith literature it is mentioned that Moses was brown and Jesus was red ("The Prophets and Messengers" - Dr. 'Umar Sulayman Ashqar). They were both Levites so based off of the aforementioned I safely assume that Levites had darker complexion than Judahites.

I don't deny that the Lemba clan may be part Israelite but modern Israeli's also have common middle eastern lineage according also to geneticists (Mizrahi (Middle-Eastern), Sephardi (Babylonian/Spanish rite) and Ashkenazi (Palestinian/German rite).

The Israelites, once again, were not all the same color, definitely not as pale as the Germanic tribes of North-Western Europe, nor as dark as the Kushites who originated in Nubia/Sudan and later other regions of Sub Saharan Africa like Takrur (West Africa (which, by the way, has a beautiful Muslim culture (The Songhay Empire of modern Mali and the Hausa and Fulani tribes of Northern Nigeria etc.))