Black People Politics : PRESIDENT PARDONS.. GET OUT OF JAIL

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  1. HODEE

    HODEE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The President can give prisoners pardons.
    What has come to mind is President Obama needs
    many more troops prepared, trained and ready to deploy to the Afgan conflict.

    Many whites will not, and have said they will not sign up, nor support Obama.
    They have said the will not join the military while he is President.

    How many readers of this post between the age of 18-40 would sign up to support the President?



    If you like. Or post and speak on this.

    Now here is why I wanted to bring this matter up.
    Soldiers are needed to help this President.

    Do you think Obama would be viewed badly?
    Or should he care

    Bush and many Presidents in the past.. have pardened criminals top level ( wealthy ) mess up who robbed and did wrong.

    If he took all locked up people.
    Serving 3 to five years for Grand Auto Theft Cases
    and gave those men Amnesty.

    If they productively enlist, serve at least three years in service of their country.

    These men would have clean records and would no longer be held back
    because of a criminal record past.

    ie.. chance at a job, and military benefits like medical, education, and stuff.

    What this would do while Obama is President is Free the ENSLAVED.. many of the poor
    from the prison system of America.. and give who desire to start over. A fresh start.

    Do you think the president should consider this?

    I DO!
     
  2. Putney Swope

    Putney Swope Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This is a very important issue

    Our great president understands the great American principle established since the Kennedy assasination that only war makes a president great.

    We must all get behind president Obama to help to colonize the savage and inhuman Afghanis.
    These dispicable people should be wiped from the face o the earth.
    How many of us love the smell of some savory barbecue ribs on an out door grill, ribs that have been marinated in some nice seasonings, fresh thyme, sage, spanish onions and garlic and Martell Cognac.
    Do you know that these folks are so uncivilized and so uncouth that not only do they not appreciate ribs, but they do not even appreciate fine cognac????
    BARBARISM plain and simple
    Already we have been effective in helping them to stem thier population problem by killing thousands of civilians, women and children, but the rates are not to the levels we want, and greater efforts must be taken to solve the overpopulation problem there, also we must wipe out large populations of Afghanis to establish the oil pipeline that Michael Moore mentioned in Farenheight 9/11.
    The president said we must make alot of sacrifices but they over there must make sacrifices also,
    Who cares if Bin Laden is dead and the people there have nothing to do with 9/11, someone has to pay!!!!!!!!!
    and beside if we let the American public know the truth, that it was an inside job, just imagine how embarrasing that would look to future generations.

    Kofi Annan said gas and oil produce millions but drugs produce billions, therefoe since our economy is in a slump, a little heroin money would go along way in suring up our economy.
    Just think of the opportunities it could provide for young Black men in our communities .
    Instead of worrying about silly things like job training or spending endless boring hours and so much moneyiand time cooped up in a college classroom learning some boring subject,
    with the tons of heroin we could import every young Black boy can have the opportunity to live the good life that they saw in the movie American Gangster.

    This is a golden opportunity that should not be missed!!!!
    :qqb007::spinstar::spinstar::spinstar::horse::horse::hulk::hulk:
     
  3. HODEE

    HODEE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Bad attempt at being contemptuous.

    I have a Afgan mechanic friend I have used many years to work on my car.
    So I don't say things about someone who has not called me Ni*ger, just to say it.

    If you think this post, or this idea is worthless Brother.
    The best thing to do is not post to it!

    Rather than throw out sarcasm, and unrelated Innuendo that has nothing at all to do with the subject, or even vaguely can be tied to it.

    Just move on, thanks for the read, and don't bother dropping trash just to appear intelligent.

    Like knowingly referencing a Afgan eating pork or ribs, and drinking XO Cognac is like saying, you dropped your Watermellon Bro.

    Brother Putney

    Obama didn't start a war.

    You talk a good brother's game, you say a few good words, but you don't walk a good game in action.

    You avoided a question, you asked in a post

    About us acting like slaves here in America.

    Your memory is sharp, you avoided the question. So please don't play lame on me.

    Brother answer that question, you implied about African Americans here in the United States. " Why do we still act like slaves? "

    I asked you to .. clarify how slaves acted and you haven't.

    I really would like to know, how we are acting like slaves today!

    I don't Bend and Fetch. When my boss calls my name.

    I don't work sun rise to sun set

    We aren't limited to one pair of shoes a year

    Nor need permission papers to marry

    While the carrying of papers.. to travel turned to a ID card or Drivers license, they are optional.

    How do you think African Americans here in the United States are still acting like slaves?

    You don't support Black, you talk a good game.

    Obama...He is ending one War in Iraq, talking about ending the one with Afganistan.

    Allowing his General to change his troops from fighting the enemy within the cities of Afganistan, and having them do more to protect the citizens within those citys.

    The above quote is the best example I have to show. What I am trying to say.

    Why would you say such trash?

    Don't take this as an attack. Don't even start by saying you feel attacked or fronted out. This isn't an insult on your Intelligence. I think you are smart and well informed.



    I am starting to have doubts...about you. :peace:
     
  4. HODEE

    HODEE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I posted this so insightful minds may see the benefits, without the need to get a Black Man in Power strung up.

    Thousands of Blackmen are in these jails. Jailed to feed the system.
    if anyone, could do something about institutional racism.

    It would be a President.

    Possible a Black President.

    Who deep down understands the hopelessnes of being Black, and caught up in a racist society.

    Where some young black men are locked up for hanging with friends and associates
    that have a inclination for crime.

    Riding innocent in a car, as a young man,
    not knowing you friend stole it.

    Gets him as much time in jail or that institution
    as the criminal friend.

    Guilt by Association.

    GUILT FOR BEING BORN BLACK!

    Having a single joint, because some like smoking one,
    gets them a few years in that institution.

    It is a machine, desiged to ENSLAVE and it has a taste for Dark Meat!

    It is a profiable institution, run by wealthy men and woman
    that need able bodies incarcerated or they go out of business.

    They would have to close or declare bankrupt.

    Because the Capitol.. HUMAN TRAFFIC of Brothers and Sisters
    have been taken away from the beast and resources it needs.
    To feed and sustain.

    Cut Off. The supply has been Depleated.

    By Any Means Necessary!​


    This post is about a War.
    Not one in a far away land.

    It is an opportunity for someone with the means
    to change the way everything is practiced.

    It is about a man
    in a position that many blacks
    feel he should not have.

    Thinking he hasn't done anything to help us.
    Well call me a visionary.... I see this.

    He can give back the fathers
    taken from the young men and their family.

    He can give the black woman hope
    and a chance again to be
    with and help raise her children

    Cost..

    Some Time, maybe some Danger.
    In Jail.. all you have is TIME!

    And in Jail it is Dangerous

    Danger ...lives are lost
    Futures lost
    Hope lost
    Manhood lost
    All is lost in Jail!


    Afganistan may be the last war
    this President has to deal with on his watch.

    Even this war has gotten softened and willl be ending soon.

    But a clean record and a chance
    to BREAK the back of the Beast.

    Without me going on and going on and on.. is it becoming a bit clearer!

    There is a message in this post.. read into it the possibility.

    Here and now.. is an opportunity to Free the ENSLAVED
    People who don't deserve to be locked in cages!

    Those who are a bit guilty.. so what..

    Fight for your Freedom, or rot where you find you are.

    All A MAN Has Is His Name.

    It is dirtyed up, by his doing or by a system that dirtys names and character.
    They both are hard to wash off.

    Your name is all one has... it is used to get a job, credit, an opportunity to do anything
    and it is and can be used against you.

    Hell your name could get you on the TERRORIST LIST!

    How can one get off that?

    By a President Pardon of His People.

    LINCOLN FREED THE SLAVES BY SENDING THEM TO FIGHT THEIR WAY OUT OF ( SLAVERY ) JAIL.

    OBAMA COULD FREE ( THOUSANDS OF UNDESERVING , INCARCERATED MEN AND WOMAN ) BY OFFERING THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR FREEDOM.

    A PARDON... A FRESH START...A CLEAN RECORD!

    THE POSSIBILITY'S ARE IN THE INTENT ( GOAL ) DREAM!

    :car: GOTTA GET AWAY... FROM THE INSTITUTIONS... BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

    :SuN042:
     
  5. Putney Swope

    Putney Swope Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    No no no you misunderstand, first Obama should throw the majority of Democrats in Washington that have stated a desire to an end to the war in jail , and then they can make good candidates to go over there and foght.
    And once enough brothers start selling that wonderful product that The Afghani president Karzai's brother sells called Afghan white, and live the beautiful good life they saw of Frank Lucas, in "American Gangster", they can hide thier money in the Cayman islands instead of under a dog house, so when they do get busted by the DEA they can help our great Leader by seving from jail as you say.

    Man what a wondeerfuul opportunity.

    And as you say He promised change
    but as you say will not make any changes at all of things that idiot W did for 8 years in this nation, because.... well you know!
     
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    Hodee

    It is extreamly important to not support Obama on the Afghan
    War. Brother you need to listen more closely to who Obama is in support of. He is not for us, he is more interested in keeping the U.S. imperialist agenda (oil and the worlds resources).

    AXE!
     
  7. HODEE

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    Point missed.

    I never said they can serve Obama from Jail.
    What is wrong with your comprehension?
    That you misread this into the post.

    ==============
    If P was incarcerated.
    Mr. P screaming innocent to no avail

    Along came an opportunity
    To get P out of jail.

    But Mr. P has to do some things
    That are worse to him
    Than what he was charged

    He has to decide to do a job for someone ( President Obama )
    Who he swore he would never support!

    So Mr. P has this Dilemma
    He has but a day to decide

    Get in uniform, put these boots on...for a pardon
    Or get back in the cell where you reside
    The decison is up to you son.



    This herion dream.
    Is already here.

    Like the crack heads that surround
    The drug dealers in tow

    They aren't in Jail
    Innocent users are in that Hell
    For dealing with a fool

    Who think it is cute and smart
    To even Insinuate the idea
    That Blacks selling drugs... is our art.


    :court::court:
     
  8. Putney Swope

    Putney Swope Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Brother Hodee I want to thank you cause i haven't had this much entertainment since Bernie Mack doing the preacher routine.

    Funy howv folks are against a fascist agenda when a white boy does it but when they put a Black face on it we want to send the disproportionate number of incarcerated young Black men
    to go and fight in a corporate war of COLONIZATION to make Dick Cheney and Haliburton rich,
    that even the Democrats in the White House say is bull mess and

    there is nothing stopping Obama from ending it.

    What realy had me falling off my chair is your Black version of Rush Limbaugh by personaly attacking me
    cause I will not worship at the altar of POTUS, the same way he and Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter attacked anyone that criticized Bush in his first years of office,
    great comedy bro!!!!!!!!

    But what is not so funny is for someone, in 2009 almost 2010 to even make a post talking about president's pardons and

    not even have mentioned Mumia Abu Jamal


    " If you know something is wrong or bad.

    And say nothing. Or do nothing."

    "You are a Bad Person."

    If you are someone in power or government, have money and influence in and over society and know something is wrong or bad.

    And say nothing. Or do nothing."

    "You are a Very Bad Person."

    BOTH ARE EVIL!
     
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    Brother HODEE ... i heard this discussion somewhere else before, recently, about letting convicted felons out to fight in the war, enlist in the military ... pay their debt to society ... and come back with clean records.

    Has this officially been put on the political table for consideration?

    Seems I remember hearing about this being done in the past, so it's not unheard of, right?

    Gosh ... talk about being between a rock and a hard place. I don't know.

    I don't know if I like it, but at this point, I'm not sure why exactly I don't.

    Brother HODEE ... it sounds like you'd be for this, is that right?

    I just don't know. Something inside of me says that it isn't right.

    The justice system isn't fair to begin with, Black Men are incarcerated at much higher rates, and this seems only to compound that problem.

    If the justice system were fair, equitable, then this might be fair and equitable.

    But that's not the case. I don't know. Great topic though. Thanks for sharing.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
  10. HODEE

    HODEE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Brother Putney

    I inspired you.

    Two additional post dedicted to the subject matter. :toast:

    A chance to plug in your vast array of information on those two subjects.

    That is good.
    Keep the ball rolling, and the information flowing.
    If you practice what you Preach.
    You may one day grow to be just like me.

    Did I personally attack you Brother?

    To me this isn't attacking.
    I see it more of an observation.
    But I still stand by what I wrote.

    You talk a good game.
    Now I see you deflect on issues too.
    Like I said in another post.
    I have some doubt about you.

    I AM FROM THE SHOW ME STATE!

    But it's not personal with me.

    keep...Laughing.. Rolling on the floor and falling out your chair.

     
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