Black People : Pregnant woman tazored for not signing a traffic ticket

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  1. anAfrican

    anAfrican Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    ... "seattle police officers" ... nothing more need be said ...:

    Court rules Seattle police OK to Taser pregnant woman

    SEATTLE (AP) - Three Seattle police officers were justified when they used a stun gun on a pregnant mother who refused to sign a traffic ticket, a federal appeals court ruled Friday in a case that prompted an incredulous dissent.

    Malaika Brooks was driving her son to Seattle's African American Academy in 2004 when she was stopped for doing 32 mph in a school zone. She insisted it was the car in front of her that was speeding, and refused to sign the ticket because she thought she'd be admitting guilt.

    Rather than give her the ticket and let her go on her way, the officers decided to arrest her. One reached in, turned off her car and dropped the keys on the floor. Brooks stiffened her arms against the steering wheel and told the officers she was pregnant, but refused to get out, even after they threatened to stun her.

    The officers - Sgt. Steven Daman, Officer Juan Ornelas and Officer Donald Jones - then stunned her three times, in the thigh, shoulder and neck, and hauled her out of the car, laying her face-down in the street.
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    The majority's opinion outraged Judge Marsha Berzon, who called it "off the wall."

    "I fail utterly to comprehend how my colleagues are able to conclude that it was objectively reasonable to use any force against Brooks, let alone three activations of a Taser, in response to such a trivial offense," she wrote.

    She argued that under Washington law, the officers had no authority to take Brooks into custody: Failure to sign a traffic infraction is not an arrestable offense, and it's not illegal to resist an unlawful arrest.

    Berzon said the majority's notion that Brooks obstructed officers was so far-fetched that even the officers themselves didn't make that legal argument. To obstruct an officer, one must obstruct the officer's official duties, and the officers' only duties in this case were to detain Brooks long enough to identify her, check for warrants, write up the citation and give it to her. Brooks' failure to sign did not interfere with those duties, she said.

    Furthermore, Brooks posed no apparent threat, and the officers could not have known how stunning her would affect the fetus, or whether it might prompt premature labor - another reason their actions were inexcusable, Berzon said.

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    Thats crazy!

    We are so complacent! So much to the point we allow our constitutional rights to be snatched away by incompetent people who hide under the bagde of authority. We could stop all this nonsence if we boycott the public utilities that go into the paychecks of these so called public servants. Who are they really serving? For surely it's not the law abiding people who pay them. "We" the people, need to wake up from this dream that its somebody else's responsibility to decide what is justifiable and what is not.

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  3. anAfrican

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    "wake up"?

    apparently "we'd" rather discuss the latest messes out of hollyweird; the latest exploits of the gladiator/slave sports figures; argue over "my god is more righteous than your god"; hash over revisionist and allowed history; bling-bling the latest european/capitalist driven "fashions"/"styles", etc. ad nauseum, than to actually stop and do TODAY while preppin for tomorrow ... oh, and did i forget about bashing what the kids are doing today while not having valid examples showing something different ... or, worse; doing exactly what they doing while talking about "i am an adult!" ... yeah, "wake up" would be good.

    about the only thing that keeps me around watching all this silliness is the sure Knowledge that Mother Earth is gonna be wakin up Her Custodians pretty soon ... and Her Embodiement (QA) will Called back into the House (Afua RA) and Watusi all over Everything!!

    :band:Let The Music Play: The [work]Party Commences!!:band:
    :dance:Dance, Chirren, Dance!:dance:
     
  4. Josef

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    sign the ticket and be on your way...your signature does not mean you are admitting guilt...
     
  5. anAfrican

    anAfrican Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Beginning De-Progamming 101

    guilty or not, you still pay the fine ... or worse.
    just do what the man tells ya, eh?
    been there, done that; still getting jacked.
    tired of it.
    no.

    that mindset is gonna hafta change in order for anything to change.
    break the conditioning.
     
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    Their guns must have been empty. Otherwise, they would have sworn they thought that her unborn baby was actually a gun.
     
  7. HyperKill

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    It's the entire slave religion that taughts blacks about the concept of original "sin" and the notion of savior. This allowed us to view ourselves as born to always do wrong and made us submissive to a god whom we always see white images of. So expect that very little will be done by the black "sinners" of this society. It's as if we have grown accustom to the bottom caste treatment. What a pity. I feel bad for the sista(i am assuming she is black) and her kid. But she was right to stand up for herself if she done nothing illegal. Also notice the six point star on many police badges. Sorry Christians, it has zero to do with David, as the Jews tell us.
     
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    There really is no conditioning involved, it is just how traffic laws are set up.

    By signing the ticket, you are not admitting guilt, you do, and will have the opportunity to state your case in court.

    She obviously did not know this, and you dont seem to either, however as our Brother Taj Tarik would say

    "ingnorance of the law is no excuse"

    we were not there so...

    From what I read she was accused of going possibly 15mph over the speed limit in a school zone, she was frustrated from the get go from having been pulled over.


    everyone speeds, right?, but being caught speeding in a school zone, or construction zone carries a heavier fine, which had her amped, believe me, I been there and done that too. Which is why I now am cautious of speeding, no sense in me getting upset at the man as you would say, when from the beginning it was my heavy foot and impatience that put me in the situation. Imagine had I hit a young one crossing the street..that ticket I was given, was a lesson learned.:fyi:

    She was the one out of line in this situation, I will say that the police could have handled this in a different way, and it never should have went that far.. again though,


    she was out of line:10500:
     
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    GREAT POST!!!!!



    GOING TO FIGHT THE POLICE BY KEEPING YOUR HANDS ON STEERING WHEEL..LMAOOOOOOO!!!
     
  10. HyperKill

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    Woulda, should, coulda. The point is she didnt. She could have been profoundly out of line. If 3 men can't cuff 1 woman, let alone a pregnant one at that, they need to lay down their badges and become security guards at a nursing home for the handicap. I'm sure in your thinking RiRi deserved the Chris Brown beatdown because she COULDA threw a hissy fit and made him almost wreck his Lamborginni into an old couple coming in the opposite lane. Rights have to be fought for and a people will only get as many rights as they show the courage to stand up for. Sitting down and taking abuse will be common place if we allow this level of disrespect to black women on the nest. Lack of will is our drawback sadly. Like battered wives who have turn the other cheek so much her head is spinning to the point of her vomiting, we are way to accepting of this mistreatment. Unluckily I don't think there is a societal shelter for us to sleep in for the night, so like Delores Claiborne at some point we gotta stand for ourselves or else grow an old abused, battered and beaten maid of a society.
     
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