Pan Africanism : Post Apartheid: Why political power means nothing without economic advancement!

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  1. panafrica

    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Over 50 years before Apartheid became an institution in South Africa, Jim Crow established limitations on where Blacks could work & live in the United States of America. It was from Jim Crow, that South Africa got the inspiration for a similar system, which lasted until the 1990s. It looks like South Africa continues to take lessons from the United States of America. That of re-inventing ways to discriminate against Blacks after discrimination is no longer supported by national law.

    The legislation of the Civil Rights Movement, in particular the 1955 Brown vs. Board of Education & 1964 Civil Rights Act, did not end racial discrimination in the United States. Instead it forced racist corporations & institutions to become more creative in their denial of Black civil rights. In other words loopholes were discovered in order to continue with the same discriminatory practices. In response to new laws which made it illegal to discriminate based on race in public institutions, private schools & clubs were formed. To counter being no longer able to refuse hire to a Black person, companies simply did not call applicants who had "ethnic sounding" names: Tyrone Jenkins, Jose Hernandez, Quadisha Jones, etc. Another tactic was to state a job was no longer available when faced with a Black applicant, although in truth it still was. As a result of these types of practices (which are increasing), there has been little advancement of the social-economic status of African Americans as a group. Even though racial discrimination has been illegal in the country for 40 years (technically 50 with the Brown decision).

    Similar to African Americans, Black South Africans have also advanced very little as a group since the end of apartheid. To an outsider this is probably surprising because the country has had two Black presidents (Nelson Mandela & Mbeki) since apartheid ended. However JFK once remarked that political power means nothing without economic power. There are few better examples of this than South Africa. South Africa has a legislation known as the "Black Economic Empowerment Initiative". This seeks to encourage white comporations to hire more Blacks & place them in high positions in their companies. Economic incentives are provided for companies that do this. Needless to say news of this initiative caused panic among White South African Corporations & their "foreign investors". There was no need to fear; however, as South Africa would once again take a tactic from their brother in White Supremacy, the United States of America.

    Instead of hiring qualified Blacks to help run companies. South African's Corporations are hiring black "figure heads" to do nothing other than be a public face, while they continue to run their business as usual. There is no respect for the knowledge or perspective of these "figure heads", and they can easily be replaced by another black puppet (are you listening Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, and Mr. Powell?)! Indeed in one case, a high ranking black officer in a white corporation sits in an office playing video games until he is needed to "pose for the camera" (he isn't even paid enough to leave his old neighborhood). Tatics like this prove that there is no intention on the part of White South Africans or their Companies (and foreign investors) of sharing economic power. Because of this, South Africa can have Black Presidents from now until the end of time, and 95% of Black South Africans will still continue to live in "shanty towns". The same can be said of the entire African continent. Is there any wonder why Robert Mugabe is taking white land away from them? Here is a link to the article that inspired this thread. To those who have truly studying the country (not listened to what white folks have told them), it should come as no surprise:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4006591.stm
     
  2. Therious

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    then mugabes way might be the only way? im curious as to the stats of business and realestate ownership since the end of apartheid. bottom line these trespassors shouldnt be there. easy for me to say from my comfy apartment.....

    stay strong brothers and sisters.
     
  3. panafrica

    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I'm sure they are almost identical to the stats of business & real estate ownership before the end of apartheid. However I can not say this with absolute certainty (I'd be willing to bet on it though). Perhaps Plainrythm can answer this?
     
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    Blessed Love, This is Correct, and Idi Amin Dada was the first to implament this ridding of the colonialist, and most people believed when they made him out to be a devil, when he is a savior of Africa, it was Idi Amin who started and told all rest of Africa to do the same, and as you can see, Mugabe has steeped up, followed by Kenya, Namibia, Ivory Cost, and E, guinie, so yes Bobo Shanti (Rastafari has been telling the people this reality since the 70's and even before, and it is now come to pass. if you find out the truth about Idid Amin Dada, you will have no more wonder on what we are to do. and hail Mugabe who is keeping the Spirit alive, and do you know who is the father of all of this is?, none but the leader of this mandate to clean up africa, came from the O.A.U. now the A.U. and it's leader founder Haile Selassie I the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, conquering Lion of Judah, Elect of God, Light of this World, Emperor of Ethiopia (and Father/king of Africa)

    find out the truth about Idid Amin Dada. our Field Marshall General, President for life, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular". King of Scotland ,pure son of Africa, His Excellency General Idid Amin Dada.
     
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    i know little about amin, would like 2 know more will have2 read up.
     
  6. plainrhythm

    plainrhythm Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    newsflash!!!!

    my brothaz, mugabe's intentions are not all good. he is taking land away from white farmers not because of black liberation, but because of his greed. all farmers have constitutional rights and mugaba has violated them. for those who have been studying africa's politics, zimbabwe's dollar is 0.1 cents to the south african rand, which basically means that the people of the country are struggling in poverty while mugabe is sitting in his wonderful mansion and shopping from south africa. due to this, the zimbabwean's are now either fleeing to mozambique, or they are coming to south africa. which leads me to what i was originally going to say.

    apartheid was inspired by many different people. Hitler, KKK and others. if you look at the patterns of apartheid, Robben Island was no different to Auschwitz. when The new south africa began, ten years ago, they introduced the black economic empowerment program to give somehting back to those oppressed. it is all out of good will, but when you hire someone because they are black, it looks like a subtle approach to "apartheid reversed" to me. not long ago, in fact it is still happening now, a black woman would be hired over a qualified white man. why? the answer is that the government wants the world to think that we are going somewhere and the employment rate is going higher and higher, yet, it still stays the same. the government thinks that all you can do is provide shelters and everything will be alright. they are wrong. they are wrong because all it is doing is causing the unemployment rate to increase. the only people getting jobs are the ones who have been seen and have names for themselves.

    what the country can do, is introduce new projects such as building and domestic services. the country has now introduced a project for domestic workers who haven't finished their matric (senior year) to do so while working, therefore it is now illegal to keep a domestic worker without any education. it is then the domestic worker's choice to complete their studies and get a job or continue with their services and keep their matric certificate.

    in terms of progress with the black economic empowerment program, it seems to be going successfully with the black population but many more whites are becoming restless due to unemployment and that could be a serious problem in the long run. it could start a major conflict battle beteween the people. i'm sure the government would love to hire everyone, but they can't. so instead of hiring blacks, they should hire the qualified (which means the black, white, indian, mixed...) other than focusing on getting us back on track with the new improved country.
     
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    I'll be short & brief with this one. President Lincoln did not seek to end slavery because he thought it was wrong or he liked Black people. Enslaved Africans were being used by Confederate soldiers: doing manual labor, fixing weapons, etc and he sought (on the advise of Frederick Douglass) to take this resource away from the South. While the intentions of Lincoln was not good, the effect was still beneficial to African Americans. The same applies in this case!
     
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    it's beneficial yes, but in the wrong ways!!! yes, i know the whites were wrong for what they did, but the struggle meant bringing equality to all, not just liberation to us! do u not understand that we are just being hypocritical if we sit and allow ourselves to be used as an excuse for another man's greed? how long will it last?! "oh, um yeah, i'm doin it for the blacks" mugabe knows full well he's not doing it for the blacks! he's doing it, for himself!
    thats why they are called human rights, not black rights. we should look away from the past, and concentrate on a better future! there's no better future so far! no hate intended pan. just venting.
     
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    I AM AWARE THAT MUGABE IS ENRICHING HIM SELF WHILE OTHERS SUFFER.
    BUT AT THE SAME TIME TAKING LAND WHICH=WEALTH AWAY FROM AN ENEMEY IS STILL A GOOD THING. WE HEAR A LOT OF THE SAME REVERSE RACISM ARGUEMENT HERE IN AMERICA. BLACKS NEED THE PLAYING FIELD EVENED PERIOD HOWEVER THAT HAPPENS IS A NON ISSUE TO ME AS LONG AS IT HAPPENS.

    WHAT DO U SEE IN YOUR COUNTRY AS FAR AS AFRIKANS CRTEATING AND OWNING THEIR OWN ENTERPRISES INSTEAD OF SIMPLY SEEKING JOBS. I KNOW THAT U NEED CAPITAL FOR THE LATTER, IM AM UN FAMILIAR WITH YOUR ECONOMIC STRUCTURE. DOES THE CURRENT ADMINISRTATION PROMOTE BUSINESS LOANS ECT? WHAT ABOUT MINING IMPORTING/EXPORTING? WHAT ABOUT HOME/REAL ESTATE OWNERSHIP?

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    the resources of Africa need to be returned to the African.
    how it is done does not concern me too much.
    what is wrong with treating whites the same way they treated us?
    two wrongs don't make it right but it sure does make it even.
     
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