Black People Politics : "Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama" : Cornel West

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I fully agree. I told my wife when he first got into office that he should focus on fixing the country's aging infrastructure. If he had used the 2 years he had a democratic majority in the house and senate to do that, he would have significantly increased the number of decent paying jobs available to the population. He would have also created a legacy that would not have been so easily threatened by a simple majority vote.
I don't blame president Obama for trying though. But you speak volumes when you said, 'decent paying jobs'.

The leaders create a false sense of security behind their past presidents. It seems right around election time, gas prices drop and jobs automatically appear. But the reality is ignored in that within the year or so, these jobs disappear. They are mostly temporary contract jobs that last from 3 months to a year or so and barely offer minimum wage. so many people don't realize the process, but they end up much worse off for accepting these jobs and this kind of trick of POPULATION CONTROL.

POPULATION CONTROL--that is what it really is and this government is sacrificing its own citizens to keep up with other outside issues that concerns trade power and national debt and etc. They welcome foreigners and give them the better jobs.

THE X generation-- I think a lot of the older BABY BOOMERS don't realize what has happened yet because I think the x-generation got hit the hardest for now. But they will get the delayed repercussions of these governmental movements. I'm feeling the burn because I'm of the x-generation. If it had not been for my offspring, I'd be completely doomed right now.

THE Y GENERATION [and Millenials] sp? -- This BLM movement is also fleeting but it is part of what I believe this system had to deal with for now, so they put money into this generation because they felt it was important. But these are the 'babies' that will be the employees for the BABY BOOMERS should they have to go to the nursing homes and etc. Good luck with that. I'm seeing some of the negative ramifications now due to some of my older relatives.
 

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We already know there are people with a lot of power aiming for us, as long as we pay attention, and don't get taken in easily by traps, and schemes, opportunities to turn things around should come up, we just have to proceed with caution, and don't give trust too easily
yes I believe there will be opportunities to turn things around.
 

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I want to talk a moment about what the woman speaker at George Town University of Law had to say, and put it into some kind of a reality check. She is against drones which President Obama loves. He loves it because our military, true freedom fighters, don't get killed like they do on foot and as a crew in bombers. Drone airplanes cut down on our casualties of young soldiers.

So here's the story the way she spoke it. President Obama was targeting a Taliban Base and in a defense attack to take out an active bloody murder cult, there was collateral death of an innocent family and grandma in the Okra field. Let me add to that there are probably more, like a hospital by accident.

Is there ever a war where there is not collateral death and destruction? That is the hell of war. But what is the alternative? Because The Taliban and ISIS and their ilk purposely target the innocent, children, babies, grandma, by cutting their throats, slitting their bellies, nailing up children, lining up good, noble, men who are trying to stop torture and slaughter, to saw off their heads? Can we deny this?

Well evidently Ms. Meir or however she spells her name, doesn't think there is any threat to the world from these blood lust killers. It was the Taliban who flew our airplanes full of passengers to destroy our 9/11 twin towers and thousand within them, including Muslim Americans and children. Their objective is to control and keep the world, Americans, in bondage to them.

So, Dr. Cornel West says that the U.S. who fly drones into areas where there are organized armies of killers who would burn you alive in a cage is not smart because we should not be involved in this kind of hateful activity. The U.S. military are the bad guys. And there is that accidental death of innocents in collateral mistakes. "Bring all those troops home." Stop that "imperial crime" of the U.S. and be more like "Venezuela, Brazil, China". Do you see in this list a snake in the bird's nest? Why does China care if we have drone airplanes or not? Any thoughts on that?

Cornel said he would rather be defeated than use drones. Is there anytime if we were defeated by another country that we could maintain this county's freedom?

Banks are bad he said. Wall Street is evil? But, Marketing is global. Does anyone think we would all be better off with an economy of poverty? So if that is one's wish, we are in debt, be careful of what you wish for. Our Military has been stripped of funding already. We have only one aircraft carrier to use in the Middle East if we need it. So the alert is: Our military is in bad shape.

These talks I listened to is Communist ideology. Where have any people been prospered under a communist government. I have said many times Universities are the engines of the Communist mind.
I appreciate the information about the reality about 'the casualties of war'. I don't believe that women and children should ever be hurt, harmed or killed in this way! Whether it's their own people or America, this is a great evil against all humanity. I am grateful though for America and any peaceful country who make intercessions to help others even if America burst into another culture to help out, especially since they are a super power.

I absolutely don't understand how this 'drone' issue can be blamed on President Obama though.
 

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“The Black Power Defined,” June 11, 1967

“The majority of Negro political leaders do not

ascend to prominence on the shoulders of mass support.

Although genuinely popular leaders are now

emerging, most are still selected by white leadership,

elevated to position, supplied with resources and

inevitably subjected to white control. The mass of Negroes

nurtures a healthy suspicion toward this manufactured

leader, who spends little time in persuading them

that he embodies personal integrity, commitment and

ability and offers few programs and less service.

Tragically, he is in too many respects not a fighter for a new

life but a figurehead of the old one. “

Martin Luther King, Jr."
 

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I appreciate the information about the reality about 'the casualties of war'. I don't believe that women and children should ever be hurt, harmed or killed in this way! Whether it's their own people or America, this is a great evil against all humanity. I am grateful though for America and any peaceful country who make intercessions to help others even if America burst into another culture to help out, especially since they are a super power.

I absolutely don't understand how this 'drone' issue can be blamed on President Obama though.
"Hi, Chevron Dove. I don't see how anyone can blame President Obama for drone accidents either. He, as Commander and Chief is trying to protect our service men from flying the bombers, by keeping them from being shot down and taken by, in this case Al Qaeda (mentioned by Ms. Meir). We are also fighting ISIS and other radicals who the President would rather fight to protect us on their shores than defend us from them on our shores. Also they would do such awful things to our soldiers if they got shot down and were captured alive.

Regarding women and children hurt during a war. You are so right it is a great evil to happen to humanity. Unless we can identify evil and then try to talk them out of their blood thirst. What are the odds they will change their ways? Not much. The only way left is to destroy it and that is the woe, because there is always the horror that runs along side a war. If we do nothing then that evil spreads and dominates with death and takes freedom from us. So it comes to sacrifice with casualties, to protect all the women we can, children, families, cities, even nations. So I support Obama using drones.

As for me, I'll pick a worm off the sidewalk and throw it into grass rather than see it struggle to dig through cement to live. That's why I don't fish. Hope there's always a grocery store. Strangely I would value the worm over saving types like ISIS killers.
 

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“The Black Power Defined,” June 11, 1967

“The majority of Negro political leaders do not

ascend to prominence on the shoulders of mass support.

Although genuinely popular leaders are now

emerging, most are still selected by white leadership,

elevated to position, supplied with resources and

inevitably subjected to white control. The mass of Negroes

nurtures a healthy suspicion toward this manufactured

leader, who spends little time in persuading them

that he embodies personal integrity, commitment and

ability and offers few programs and less service.

Tragically, he is in too many respects not a fighter for a new

life but a figurehead of the old one. “

Martin Luther King, Jr."
Hi RAPTOR, I'm seeing a lot more brilliant Black leaders today which have arrived to also influence and lead white people. That is what's new. I don't know if the Black community is listening to these leaders though. Maybe that is what Dr. King was talking about. "New life." Have you heard what Reverend Owen has said? He is a Republican ever since he learned that L.B.J. Democrat President said he wanted to give the Black community something to control them for the next two hundred years. He said more on that subject. I heard him talk two days ago.
 

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"Hi, Chevron Dove. I don't see how anyone can blame President Obama for drone accidents either. He, as Commander and Chief is trying to protect our service men from flying the bombers, by keeping them from being shot down and taken by, in this case Al Qaeda (mentioned by Ms. Meir). We are also fighting ISIS and other radicals who the President would rather fight to protect us on their shores than defend us from them on our shores. Also they would do such awful things to our soldiers if they got shot down and were captured alive.

Regarding women and children hurt during a war. You are so right it is a great evil to happen to humanity. Unless we can identify evil and then try to talk them out of their blood thirst. What are the odds they will change their ways? Not much. The only way left is to destroy it and that is the woe, because there is always the horror that runs along side a war. If we do nothing then that evil spreads and dominates with death and takes freedom from us. So it comes to sacrifice with casualties, to protect all the women we can, children, families, cities, even nations. So I support Obama using drones.

As for me, I'll pick a worm off the sidewalk and throw it into grass rather than see it struggle to dig through cement to live. That's why I don't fish. Hope there's always a grocery store. Strangely I would value the worm over saving types like ISIS killers.
I don't know if I agree to aggressive fighting on other people's shores but I understand what you say about such reasoning. Who started all of this stuff in the first place?

Identify evil... in this you said a lot.

I don't know enough about the Middle east to agree that they are the beginning of evil either though.
 

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Hi RAPTOR, I'm seeing a lot more brilliant Black leaders today which have arrived to also influence and lead white people.
Uhhh, okay? Are these "brilliant black leaders" today political leaders? and if so, being that you are "seeing a lot" of them, can we get some names please?
 

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deal with trump, if you can...
I will in time. However obama is still in action:

Obama Declares Cuba and Venezuela National Security Threats
The United States declared a national emergency to deal with perceived "threats" in Cuba and Venezuela
on Friday, along with Iran, Libya, Ukraine, Zimbabwe and countries Washington claims "support terrorism."
The declarations effectively extend for another year economic sanctions already in place.
President Barack Obama warned that one of the main national security threats to the U.S. is mass undocumented
immigration from Cuba, days after he ended the "Wet Foot, Dry Foot" policy, which granted residency to Cubans
who arrived in the U.S. without visas, reported Sputnik.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Obama-Declares-Cuba-and-Venezuela-National-Security-Threats-20170113-0024.html
 

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