Black Spirituality Religion : PERCEPTION DEFINES YOUR OUTLOOK ON REALITY

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  1. DARKSIDE MAGICK

    DARKSIDE MAGICK Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    THINKING DIFFERENTLY FROM CHRISTIANS

    What actually makes a Luciferian different from a Christian? For one, Luciferians don’t believe that they are judged by a superior being who created man. If God (Christian) is all knowing, wise powerful and limitless why is his name and nature jealous? Luciferians believe that they are responsible for their own life and how it affects everything else, thus there are no prayers or possible redemption for those who act contrary to their Will. If a Luciferian makes a mistake, they can learn from it, forgive themselves and move on. If a Luciferian hurts another out of maliciousness, they are responsible and accountable for that action. There is no spirit, god, ghost or person to place the blame except for them. If they are sorry then it is honest and redemption is only available through the self.


    Christians believe or claim to believe in loving and forgiving all. This is obviously a two-faced lie as more murders, crime and hate have been committed in the name of God than any else. Christians claim they love and want to help all the poor and unfortunate, yet they build multimillion dollar mega churches instead of building something modest and using that money in the community. Christians believe if they ask for forgiveness they will be saved, even using the term “WWJD” (what would Jesus do). How many live by this doctrine, how many actually study and know the doctrine?


    Luciferians who are Atheist or have no considerable proof verifiable to their own mind view this life as the first and final for them, they are accountable for their actions and wish to live life to the fullest. Luciferians who have spiritual beliefs see that their own spiritual and material life is connected and there must be a balance in both to live fully and productively. Luciferians who are more spiritual will use prayers or rituals to “connect” with their perceptions of “spirits” and to gain wisdom accordingly. Many Luciferians have “ghost” or “Haunting” experiences, while they do not believe in a “heaven” or “hell”. The word “Hell” is from the Anglo-Saxon “Helan” and “Hades” which is respectively a “Secret or hidden place” and “Place of the Dead”.


    Christians often despise sexuality as a lustful practice, often denying to themselves if they are homosexual or prefer/have specific fetishes. They pray and restrict their inherent behavior. Luciferians welcome their sexuality as a lustful practice, have love for their mates and practice their own desires in a consensual relationship. Luciferians understand that hurting others will lead to not only punishment in a legal avenue, yet also hurts and diminishes others to the Luciferian Light or possibility for humanity as a whole to transform and become more – much of the Luciferian Goal.


    Luciferians welcome and enjoy their own sexuality based on who they are, don’t force things on others and are respectful of the beliefs of others as long as they are shown the same.
    Christians consider the “lamb”, “dove” and allow themselves to be called “sheep” following a Herder (meaning Priest). Luciferians identify with the serpent, an ancient symbol of wisdom, the dragon, a symbol of strength, wisdom and power and see themselves as “wolves” rather than sheep. Wolves are loyal, self-sufficient animals that are loyal to their own and often a terror to others who cross them. The symbols of the Adversary throughout time are always attributed to strong and wise creatures who are by Christians turned to horrific murdering predators. Luciferians understand symbolism is always a conscious representation of the subconscious mind, thus we find being compared to “sheep” and “lambs” to be disgusting and insulting!


    CREATION AND DESTRUCTION
    Luciferians understand that you must have a strong creative side as well as a destructive one; you must embrace what humans try to hide! Once you embrace the horrific imagery, you may better understand the beautiful and expand your horizons of perception.
    Let’s take for example the Greek God Apollo. This is the Spirit of Light, Apollo was worshipped as the dispenser of light, equally so the New Moon (Dark Moon) was a festival of Apollo. Like Zeus the Wolf God of Mount Lykaios, Apollo was also capable of sending forth death and destruction, his arrows could send plague to those far away equally so. Often after battles, there was a war chant offered to Apollo with the surname “Paian”, a chant of battle lust when in peril. This demonstrates that a death god has the power to control such as well.


    Apollyon is the same as “Abaddon”, the Angel of the Bottomless Pit who controls locusts. Apollo or Apollyon is able to control locusts and keep them from harming others as well. Ancient religions and mythologies of forgotten times have given us the resurgence of the Luciferian spirit; how could humanity who can build such wondrous things, new technology and insight be as a whole spiritually empty and imbalanced – to accept a myth of “Jesus Christ” and give up their own soul to something outside, an unknown jealous “father” who cannot have you seeking knowledge?


    Awaken people, listen to the cry from the abyss and bring forth the Light within YOURSELF!
    Beautiful and Ugly, Destructive and Creative; this is the Luciferian Spirit in all humanity. Finding meaningful ways to explore your darkness is essential to living in a full and fulfilled way. Not hiding your lusts and leading yourself to pain or self-destruction like other religions do.
    We don’t endorse or support self-denial of natural lusts and desires. We encourage you to find meaningful, legal and pleasant ways of dealing with this. Living without guilt or the hate of the self!
    Luciferianism embraces the demonic or “daemonic” (meaning Spirit) attributes of the individual and the manifestation of the Adversarial Spirit within man and woman. The number attributed in numerology is 480, representing Lilith and the Qlippoth or Cosmic-Darkness of Malkuth or the Black Earth. The Black Earth is symbolic of wisdom obtained in the world around us.


    THE HUMAN PSYCHE
    The Church of Adversarial Light is a Luciferian Religious Church dedicated to the education and expansion of the Luciferian Spirit in Humanity. The Church of Adversarial Light does not worship Satan or Lucifer however it recognizes the spirit of the Adversary as the motivational psychological and spiritual force in nature and the psyche of humanity. The Church views each individual as a Temple and affirms that the relationship between the aspirant and the Gods are both sacred and personal. The Luciferian Spirit or Angel is viewed in the Church as the higher intellect which governs the decision making ability in each human. Lucifer is thus the Light or intellect of the self. The Luciferian Faith is the study and knowledge gain from studying the darkness and light of the mind and psyche. It is the theory that if one can channel the hidden aspects of the self, the carnal, the darkness and so-called “demonic” aspects that one can realize a higher potential as a human being. The Luciferian Faith is comprised of multicultural manifestations of the Adversary as a self-motivating, powerful and beautifully striking force in the psyche of humanity. The Adversary or rebel is the one who stirs and motivates this is the nature of Godhood, to create and shape their individual existence to greater heights.


    Luciferians are spiritual individuals. Luciferians find faith in their own subjective experience based on self-study, achieving goals and balancing the life we have now in this world with a spiritual exploration. Luciferians do not worship Satan; to do so would be a counterproductive step in our evolution as individuals. Luciferians view themselves as individually “The Only God that is” as the body and mind must be a Temple for these forces to manifest.


    NEVER BELIEVE A REALITY NOT YOUR OWN - QUESTION EVERYTHING
    On the Luciferian Path no one will ask you to accept anything as fact. You as an individual are encouraged to study and utilize what we call Magick to refine your consciousness and transform into something better. Magick is the art of using mental capacities and the five senses to affect change internally and externally, depending on goal or situations. Many Luciferians use Magick to understand and overcome fears, depressions, drugs, becoming better students, shape life to something better – no matter what the desire is – the Luciferian


    FROM http://www.adversariallight.com/perception.htm
     
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    Different and interesting perception. I have about 10 questions that pops in my mind. But What's your purpose for this thread may I ask ??

    Can I ask you questions just for clarity not necessary to debate anything.


    First, Which Christians are you referring to and about ??

    Seems like a broad generalization. And Do you have any more sites that go into lenght about the subject ??

    Thanks for sharing, REALLY...............

    I've never heard of such But interesting no less.

    Peace


     
  3. DARKSIDE MAGICK

    DARKSIDE MAGICK Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    MY PURPOSE IN A SENSE IS TO LET PEOPLE WE HERE AND BEEN HERE PER SE


    1.I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL CHRISTIANS



    2. YES YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS


     
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    Peace brother DM
    This is what jumps out at me in this article.

    "Luciferians understand that you must have a strong creative side as well as a destructive one; you must embrace what humans try to hide! Once you embrace the horrific imagery, you may better understand the beautiful and expand your horizons of perception."

    there is no separation, only balance achieved through the hard work of sel-realization.

    ase
     
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    DARKSIDE MAGICK Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The Gnostic Lucifer - An Informal Discussion


    Gnostic

    The term "Gnostic" comes from the Greek word "gnosis" meaning "knowledge." This knowledge doesn't refer to simple information that you can obtain from a book. It is the direct experiential knowledge of something or someone. In this case it refers to the intimate knowledge of nature, divinity and yourself. A Gnostic is a someone who knows or seeks to know these things directly. The most well known and deeply developed system of Gnosticism is to be found within the Christian tradition. Therefore, it is useful to make a brief note comparing the Gnostic tradition with the two most prominent forms of Christianity. In Protestant theology, salvation comes to those with Faith. All you have to do is accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior and have faith that he died for your sins and you are guaranteed a place in Heaven. In Catholicism, faith is important but you must back it up with Action if you are to have any chance of entering the Kingdom of God. In Gnosticism, faith and good works are only stepping stones to Gnosis. Christian Gnostics feel that "salvation" is gained through directly Knowing God. This has a close parallel in the Merkava tradition of mystical Judaism. The goal of the Merkava practice was to ascend through the various heavens, giving certain passwords and signs to gain entrance until you reached the Throne of God and looked directly at the Face of God. Ezekiel is believed to have been a mystic of the Merkava tradition. The apocryphal books attributed to Enoch also appear to belong to this style of mysticism.

    The Gnostic cosmology put forth by Valentinius in the second century describes an interesting spiritual hierarchy that includes many elements found in other flavors of Gnosticism. At the very top is the ultimate unity that is sometimes referred to as God Most High. It is from this unity that everything else issues. First is a series of four divine entities (or "Aeons") grouped into male-female pairs (called "syzygies") that are collectively referred to as the Eight (or "Ogdoad.") The Ogdoadic Aeons then went on to produce further Aeons, including Sophia, which means "Wisdom." Sophia decided to create without the aid of her male counterpart and accidentally created a deeply flawed, blind and delusional entity that is often termed the Demiurgos, which literally means "Half-Maker." The Demiurge also made an attempt at solo creation. This resulted in the entire physical plane, which was just as deeply flawed as it's creator. Seeing his creation and nothing else, he declares himself the highest god. The Gnostics usually connected the Demiurge with the Old Testament entities that are collectively referred to as "God" in English (such as IHVH and ELHIM.) The hosts of angels under the command of the Demiurgos are typically referred to as Watchers, Archons or Rulers. In an attempt to repair the flaws caused by her mistake, Sophia arranges for the Demiurge to witness a reflection (which implies light) of God Most High in a pool of water. Upon seeing this image of something higher than himself, the Demiurge becomes frightened and binds it to his creation in a vain attempt to exert control over it. Sophia knew that once the image, which had become an entity in it's own right, was able to remember itself that it would overthrow the Demiurge from below, repairing the damage and establishing the Kingdom of God Most High in the physical realm.

    In all versions of the Gnostic myth, the Demiurge endeavors to keep us ignorant in order to maintain control over us. One notable version of this Gnostic cosmology states that we are to escape the "prison" of material existence. It states that when we die, our soul rises through the planes in an attempt to reunite with God Most High. On the way there it gets trapped by the Demiurge and his Archons, stripped of it's memories and sent back down into matter. The key to escape this cyclical trap and overcome the Demiurge is Gnosis. This is similar to certain schools of Buddhism where the object is to escape the cycle of rebirth by recognizing the falsehood of the entities encountered in the afterlife state. This method is detailed in the Bardo Thodol (commonly known as the "Tibetan Book of the Dead.") However, once freed from the cycle of rebirth the Buddhist has the choice of either remaining in a non-physical state or they can choose to take on a physical body again. The latter path is that of the Bodhisattva and corresponds to the earlier mentioned Gnostic goal of overcoming the Demiurge not to escape the physical world, but to perfect/repair it. The Bodhisattva vow is to continue to be reborn until every sentient being has reached enlightenment.

    A related Buddhist concept is that if you receive a certain initiation eventually you will be reborn in the utopian city of Shambhala, supposedly hidden somewhere in the Himalayan mountains. The prophesy of Shambala is apocalyptic. At some future time, a malevolent warlord gains enough knowledge to find and invade Shambalah. All hell breaks loose and a full world war occurs. Eventually, the powers of Light win out and Shambhala is established in the world as a whole. This should sound familiar in many ways to those who have read the book of Revelations from the New Testament. Shambalah represents essentially the same thing as the New Jerusalem in Revelations. All that being said, what must be realized is that none of these complex cosmologies are meant to be taken entirely literal. They are allegories. Such colorful words and elaborate stories were created to express something which we do not have the words to express directly. They are like the finger pointing at the moon rather than the moon itself.
    Lucifer

    How does Lucifer tie into this? Well, Lucifer is that image of God Most High that was imprisoned in matter in order to perfect it. Some of you may be thinking, "How can Satan be the image of God?" Lucifer and Satan are often viewed as separate entities. Satan is actually another title for the Archons and Demi-Urge. The word "satan" actually means "adversary," so the connection with the Archons is obvious. A title of Lucifer is "The Morning Star" which is the last luminary visible in the sky before sunrise. It isn't actually a star, but is the planet Venus. The symbolism contained in this title will require a whole article to explore it. The word "lucifer" literally means "light bearer," which gives a good general description of how the Gnostic Lucifer is viewed.

    This title connects Lucifer with figures in several other traditions, most notably Prometheus. Prometheus (Greek meaning "Fore-thought") stole the fire of the "gods" and brought it to mankind. As a result, he was chained to a mountain and every day, an eagle would come and eat his liver. Every night his liver would grow back. Eventually, Heracles came along, killed the Eagle and released Prometheus from his chains. This story, looked at from a Gnostic Luciferian viewpoint, would represent the image of God Most High being imprisoned in matter for the purpose of bringing enlightenment to it. The Eagle being one of three symbols for Scorpio, represents the sexual force. It being used an instrument of torture and bondage signifies how the sex force is twisted to keep us from achieving Gnosis. Once the Eagle has been overcome, a great step towards liberation has been achieved. This does not mean that one must destroy the sexual force or remain celibate.

    The verb "to know" in the bible is often used to denote sexual union. It is no coincidence that Gnosis also means Knowledge. In many Gnostic texts, Christ mentions the internal union of male and female aspects as being a key to salvation. Many esoteric traditions around the world include the physical representation of this union as an aid in attaining the internal state of union. One of these traditions which most people have heard about is called Tantra and can be found in Hinduism, Buddhism and Taoism (the Taoist "Tantra" is more commonly called "Internal Alchemy.")

    In Tantra, the reproductive force is symbolized by a fiery serpent typically called Kundalini. In the Western Mysteries, Lucifer is also conceived of as a serpent; sometimes a fiery, winged serpent or a fire-breathing dragon. The path of directly working with the sexual force in the pursuit of Gnosis is a dangerous path filled with traps for the unwary. Working indirectly or at least less directly with the sexual force tends to be the less perilous path.

    One could compare the two paths to the fable of the tortoise and the hare. The hare (a symbol of vigorous sexuality, to be sure!) is able to tread the path quite quickly, but falls prey to a trap of the ego (ie. arrogance) and his progress is completely halted halfway through. The tortoise goes at a slow speed that he is capable of maintaining, remains determined and progresses steadily without incident. The tortoise even reaches the goal before the hare! If we want to accomplish the work in one lifetime, as the sages of every tradition insist is possible, then we must work while it is still day, for the night cometh when no man can work. I would advise against embarking upon the more dangerous methods without the aid of an experienced and knowledgeable instructor too keep you from getting too far astray.
    Jesus/Christ

    So where would Jesus come into the picture? Gnostics tend not to talk a lot about Jesus, preferring rather to speak about the Christ. The difference is that Jesus was an historical figure from about 2000 years ago, whereas the Christ is ever present. We can never truly Know Jesus, but we can Know the Christ. If the accounts are correct, it would appear that Jesus fully manifested the Christ. Whether these documents are historically accurate or if they were written to express certain truths is of no consequence. The Christ is the awakened Lucifer. It has "remembered itself" and can now overthrow the Archons. The Christ is no longer bound by the limitations of matter (Hercules removing the chains binding Prometheus to the mountain), is no longer subject to death ("Death is swallowed up in Victory") and can help others achieve this state. The connection between Christ and Lucifer is alluded to in the book of Revelations (which is written in the style of the books of Enoch.) In chapter 22, Christ says, "I am the root and offspring of David and the Bright and Morning Star." I believe this to be a reference to the fact that he is the product of not only the Davidic line of decent, which can be traced back to Eve's third child Seth, but also back to Lucifer through his son Cain, Eve's first son. Other articles on this website go deeper into this. Also connected with the resurrected Christ is the phrase: Death is swallowed up in Victory. This is an amazingly deep phrase. On the Qabalistic Tree of Life, Victory is the primary title of the sphere which rules the energies represented by the planet Venus. Lucifer is the title the Romans gave to Venus in it's aspect as the Morning Star. Through the full "awakening" of the Lucifer within, even Death can be overcome and the Christ can be embodied. It may seem that this is a long ways off, but all through the writings of Adepts and Masters we are told that this can be accomplished in one lifetime. The key to this is to recognize the illusion of time and separation. All of these "stages" are present at all times and we are already one with those who are living in that stage. We just have to attune ourselves to it. That being said, becoming fully conscious of the illusion of time and separation takes place while still caught up in those illusions! Therefore, we must work in increments to increase this consciousness.


    FROM http://www.jeremycrow.com/informal02.html
     
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    Good stuff!
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    @ Bro Darkside, nice one god. I am enjoying the read very much :)

    WE R Lucifer - Bringers of Light. Embrace your dark demons (which U try 2 hide) in order 2 reach your higher self. Your demons help 2 strengthen that which it opposes

    J-Z - LUCIFER



    "...Lucifer, dawn of the morning! I'm gonna, chase you out of Earth..." (bringing you from your lower self to your higher self - from material to spiritual perception)

    One has 2 to get out of their perceived notion of what they been spoon-fed as 2 what Lucifer means & do the research 4 oneself. The darkness (darkside) within each of us is the source of the highest good. Demons only arise to teach us something so we can rise higher.

    Thanks Dark One!
     
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    hopefully you will gain many converts here, i had read this comparison, when I was 17 and used to hang out in Weiser's book store and the Warlock shop, in Brooklyn Heights, and studied Crowley, Regardie and Abremalin,

    all of that lead me to be a Christian because I understood that cults are based on the premiss that most folks do not care to read or research.

    I regard myself as Black first and religion second but will as Malcolm said work with any one who is for the race first, but if it is just like some Christians use christianity an opiate to look away from the suffereng of the masses and the need for unity to stem the tide of the real life Luciferians who control and finance white supremacy
    in the
    Bildreberg group,
    Knights Templar,
    Pinay Circle,
    Tavistock,
    Royal Inst of Inernational Affairs,
    the Order of the Dragon,
    the Knights of Malta,
    the Church of Satan,
    the Triateral Commission,
    the Heritage Foundation,
    the OTO,
    the Knights of Malta,
    The knights of St John,
    P2,
    and the Boule'

    , then No hating but no interest either

    we are so interested in the exterior but we never look at the interior, by not looking at the slave trade being started and financed by Luciferians and the drug trade as well, and it is sad that in the age of free information, we are still calling high occultists and high level Masons like Pat Robertson and Bush, Christians, when their mask and disguise is common knowledge.

    Power is what white supremists have taught us to worship, and we subconciously are envious of the slavemaster, his methodology, and his domination of the world through evil, and thus many see evil as a benefit, regardless of how much horror degredation or deaths.

    Most Haitians have vivid memories of negros involved in that European Asili of nihilism, in the Ton Ton Macout and Papa Doc Duvalier,

    we enjoy explanations without analysis, and wind upwith a minset that will

    hate Dr King for being a Christian, and love Duvalier for being a Luciferian
     
  9. DARKSIDE MAGICK

    DARKSIDE MAGICK Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    GOT SO MANY , I CANT KEEP COUNT!!!!
     
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    Sounds good then,
    we will all enjoy our new slavery and opression
     
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