Black People : Perception and Intrepretation

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  1. hellogood

    hellogood Banned MEMBER

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    i thought you made a brilliant point that reality is a relative of truth much like magnetism and electricity are cousins.

    i'll take it a step further. Truth is not bound by words, truth just IS. Truth is subject to the laws of duality like everything else in the name of balance*. Good and Bad and you are so correct it's up to the individual to understand this concept. That truth lies in everyone's heart. You are either good hearted or you are not. Environment plays a bad role at times too, if you have a kid living a harsh life and he has to do what was he has to do to survive he can have a good heart but has to do what is considered bad things to survive. Then you can have a kid brought up in the finest of the surroundings and do the most devious things but he appears good hearted to the community. And when his truth shows they act surprised. I didn't mean to go on so long but your comment intrigued me. So yes i totally agree with you saying that perception has alot to do with this.

    Now i've been wondering about perception and interpretation. Perception and interpretation is an interesting thing to me. Because those are characteristics of the human brain. No other organ in our body or the universe for the matter cares about "interpretation" like the human brain does, meaning if you can interpret you my will misinterpret too. This is where i'm going. Your body is comprised of approximately 5 trillion cells. How those cells know where to go and what to do it what we mean by the Divine presence in the universe. That Divine presence is the abitilty to CREATE and RECREATE. Which is the basis of what people refer to as GOD or The ALL KNOWING.

    So back to misinterpretion. The heart and lungs "know" in order to stay alive, the heart MUST pump blood back and forth thru the body. The lungs "know" they must breathe oxygen in and release carbon dioxide. We recyle elements just like the universe recyles matter. The stomach gives us hunger pains, the throat gets thristy to let us "know" we should eat and drink because if we don't eat, the heart and the rest of the body can't survive without the energy we call nutrients and water.

    The point i'm making is what does the human brain need to "interpret"? The only reason we are subject to intrepretation instead of KNOWING like the rest of the universe, is we live in survival mode and not spiritual mode. Everyone doesn't want to be denied and i can't blame them really, who doesn't want it all. But instead of building a togetherness of one, we find ways to destroy each other just in the same essence of how cancer cells invade a human body.

    Now this is where i'm taking this, we have allowed ourselves to be bound by words and symbols, the universe is NOT bound by "words". The universe doesn't need definitions. It defines itself. It is not left up to intrepretion. Neither should we, but i don't need to go history to tell you why we let fear, fear based in words to break one of the powerful organs in the human body. The human body. How is this possible? Lungs "KNOW" they must breathe, they don't believe it they know. Stomach "knows" it must send out hunger pains to survive, it doesn't believe it, it KNOWS it. The throat gets thristy because it "KNOWS" water is needed to survive, it doesn't say hey i believe or don't believe i need water. IT KNOWS. This does all sounds so simplistic i know. But all i'm asking is how is it that the brain "believes" when it should KNOW, just like all of the universe. We are and possess the same power as the universe. There is no separation. We come from the DIVINE PRESENCE (GOD) so we are GOD too right. Why is it that we are born from a human mother yet we don't say we are not human right? So why is it that we come from a divine presence but yet we are not that divine presence. We are in more ways then one. But we allowed ourselves to separate from the universe by words, inneundo, allegory, perception and intrepretion. When there should be no intrepretation, we should all live fulls lives. But we allow false egos and illusions to rule our conscious couple that with the desire, we full short of our truth.

    Let me give you another example of intrepretation and the english language. Each word has 10 different meanings sometimes and is built to confuse. Look at law books for example judges reference these and then render their intrepretation of them. Which is why there is no truth in law. Now look at a blueprint of a bridge. The engineer knows the blueprint is sound. They show it to someone and they say i'm going to interpret that you move the beam to the other side of the bridge. The bridge would fall down.
    Somethings should not be left up to the bounds of intrepretion and neither should LIFE.



    Reality is not about people and intrepretation, reality is about reality and reality you said is a relative of the truth.
    That's why i mentioned earlier in another post that's why we have true reality and pseudo reality. True reality is you sitting there reading this, is a reality, a true reality there is no intrepretation YOU ARE READING THIS, and feel it in your soul. A Pseudo reality can and is always left up to perception and interpretation. Yet it is a reality and a truth as well. A true pseudo reality if you may.
    A reality left up to intrepretation.

    thanks again for your comment

    *Balance meaning positive and negative charges all elements of "matter seen and unseen, much like an electrical outlet needing a 2 prong connection and look at the human body, we have artery and veins. Arteries bring oxygen to the cells of the blood when the oxygen is used up by the blood the veins bring the blood back to the heart to be pumped to the lungs and send oxygen filled blood thru arteries to give oxygen to cells to survive so when can survive as a one body unit. Have you ever seen when they show how it looks to travel thru the human body on a molecular level, it's like traveling thru space. We need to recognize that we possess energy and power beyond words and inneundo
     
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    With regard to "duality"

    logically speaking, although I am chaos defined

    What are your thoughts....

    As the universe is ONE, how can the "concept" of duality exist. Would you not consider that part of the illusion, because it actually makes things "separate"

    Lookin forward to your response, you are very intelligent.
     
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    hellogood Banned MEMBER

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    Thank you for the kind response.

    don't be fooled "chaos" has rules. if something has a presence no matter what it is as long as there's a presence there are rules. If there were no rule how would you measure chaos? That statement was not for you because you stated yourself as chaos defined. That was for people i've heard say chaos is a form of oblivion and randomness. Because they take chaos to mean just that chaos, out of control when chaos is actually in "reality" very much under control and has rules to follow just like everything else in the multiverse and beyond.

    Now duality is just the ying and yang of the universe. The mother and father, the giver and the receiver, Day and night, dry and wet, Life and Death, Rich and Poor, heavy and light, light and dark, i could on and on here but you get the point. So i'm not expressing duality as a separation of the universe but a phenomenon that keeps the balance. Like predator and prey, Old and young Cycle and recycle. Because the universe is homeostasis if feeds off of an indestructible force, some may call that force the singularity or the point of oneness, some called it "GOD". But what ever it truly is, it is an infinite force. Our bodies are a duplicate of the universe. Think about it. Stars are born and they die, just the like blood cells are born and they die, skin cells are born and they die. I forgot how many months or years it takes to shed your skin but i think every three years you have a new "shell". So duality is what keeps the universe stable and balanced. Because is there was no "darkness" in the universe without light to measure it against.

    Yes there is NO separation from all of us. WE ARE ONE. Duality doesn't separate is balances things. The separation is us, we are separate from each other..............................................................................in our minds.


    Thank you so much again for totally getting "it".

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6736722752013377089&ei=8vYoS-LnAZyblAe2t42EBA&q=kymatica&hl=en#
     
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    blkbutterfly41 Banned MEMBER

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    lol Well, Thank you for the honor, But I truly can't add a thing. Well, explained and well said !!!

    Proving that intellect alone is great , But when you mastered how to explain and relay it well , We all gain tremendously!! Excellent thread !!

    Truly , Thank you !!



     
  5. Ankhur

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    That truth lies in everyone's heart. You are either good hearted or you are not. Environment plays a bad role at times too, if you have a kid living a harsh life and he has to do what was he has to do to survive he can have a good heart but has to do what is considered bad things to survive

    Take a look at a book called "Lord of the Flies"
    several movies were made from it and the premiss is hat you express, nurtures, prominence over nature.

    That is why social engineering is so important.

    Knowing how to control what the IN THING is fo those who will eventually become adults.

    That is the reason why the destruction of culture is importnt for any type of enslavement or reenslavement, economic, political or physical.

    Lookat the peer pressure use in the spread of gangs.

    now take those same youth,
    and look at thier ancestors at that age 600 years ago,
    the peer pressre then was towards scholastic excellence, and dedication to the community, and many will have you believe that there was no formal education in subsaharan africa at that time.

    Perception is subject to Conception if and only if mass interpretation of things and subjects are not enforced, by those seeking toopress or manipulate.

    Example;

    The Concept of president Obama, a Black Democrat running for office and speaking to folks in Berlin, was from the German contemporary stand point a universal triumph against not only racism but the neocon agenda.

    Go back to the 30s and 40s at that same exact location in Berlin and they woul have ripped the flesh off the bones of any Black woman child or man they saw walking down the street becuase,
    their Conception was interfeared
    with to cause a Perception
    intitiated by the propaganda of governmental and oligarchal ,
    forced Interpretation.
     
  6. hellogood

    hellogood Banned MEMBER

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    You make excellent point

    Don't be fooled by the "Concept of President of Obama" for that is part of the neo-con agenda too. The status quo continues. People are still starving and homeless in amerikkkan and the world at large. I know Obama provided some stimulus money here and there. But can somebody tell me what has REALLY changed since Obama became president. He can't remove troops, he doesn't have the power. President and politics are like everything else in this matrix. Democrat and Republican is just cosmetic make up so you can't see who the real president of the United States is, and that is the Federal Reserve Bank.
    Don't "believe" me? First the Bank isn't even Federal. Secondly the government doesn't even run or own the Bank but it's called "federal". Thirdly the government can't tell the bank what to do, if the government did, the government wouldn't have to "ask" the federal to lower interest rates.

    And interest is another way to say the word "slavery" because we are all slaves to debt. DEBT IS MONEY & MONEY IS DEBT.

    Nonetheless you make a brilliant point

    Everything is running smoothly. lol

    of you course you know i say that with sarcasm and cynicism
     
  7. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    easy partner give the "bruvah" a chance!!!

    yeah I feel you, your not tacking any shorts either!

    , just mentioning how the perception of white folks in a formerly fascist nation has changed about us.
    and how it wasagainst us by the use of enforced interpretation to counteract thier internal conception,

    but regarding POTUS, I feel your outrage and your hope that more Black folks use thier internal conception rather then allow the current interpretaion to allow them to miss the perception of the congame, really going down
     
  8. hellogood

    hellogood Banned MEMBER

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    Brilliant point after brilliant point

    and you keep making them. Internal conception is hard to grasp when one is in a fear/survival mode as KYMATICA so eloquently put.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6736722752013377089&ei=8vYoS-LnAZyblAe2t42EBA&q=kymatica&hl=en#

    It's hard because we are reliant on outside sources to survive and those sources control our subconscious. I know i'm not telling you stuff you don't know already. lol

    Trust me, you are the truth
     
  9. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Internal conception is hard to grasp when one is in a fear/survival mode

    There is something more to this then the Illuminati's concept of Africans were enslaved as a karmic debt for enslaving Eurpoeans dureing the dark ages sing song or you brought opression upon yourself, and all the sufffering should be masochisticaly celebrated as a blessing because we will evolve to superbeings from the murder rapoe hell and genocide, I can see where the dude in the flik is comeing from but please do understand that many concepts from the hippie movement were controlled by the Illuminati to create a syndrome of acceptance to BS."Turn on , Tune in, Drop out, and don't complain"

    The point you make has a bit moe obvious source of corruption called what Naomi Klein calls Milton Friedman's Concept of Shock Doctrine or Disaster Capitalism.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9CM_J00bw
    Economist Milton Friedman once said, “Only a crisis produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. " Naomi Klein examines some of what she considers the most dangerous ideas—Friedmanite economics—and exposes how catastrophic events are both extremely profitable to corporations and have also allowed governments to push through what she calls "disaster capitalism.”

    Klein writes in the introduction to “The Shock Doctrine” that “The history of the contemporary free market was written in shocks.” She argues that “Some of the most infamous human rights violations of the past thirty-five years, which have tended to be viewed as sadistic acts carried out by anti-democratic regimes, were in fact either committed with the deliberate intent of terrorizing the public or actively harnessed to prepare the ground for the introduction of radical free-market reforms.”



    Friedman was the advisor to Pinochet, Ronald Ragan, and Obama
     
  10. hellogood

    hellogood Banned MEMBER

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    Thank you

    yes the guy is coming str8 but i can filter out what is relevant. He's about 97% and that's saying something for a white dude, where i fall off is, he talks from a demonic stance on certain points. so that's where the other 3% is lost. Those points were very minute in the sense of the whole film but glaring when you can truly "see". It makes more sense
    than it destroys.


    "viewed" as, all propaganda ploys, and this statements falls in line of when you say "need a war finance one"!
     
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