Black People Politics : Other People Want the Same Rights as Homosexuals

Lol. Where are your statistics coming from? You should read the paper that I quoted or search for more clarity yourself about the doctor's position.
Oops! My apologies. I meant to write that only 35% of gay men report being sexually abused, and 75% of gay men report engaging in some same-sex contact before age 16.

That written, if only 35% of gay or bi-sexual men were the victims of sexual abuse then what about the other 65% who were not but who still identify as gay? Clearly, most adult gay men were not sexually abused as children. Also, for the 75% of gay men who engaged in some sex same contact before age 16, the data did not take into account peer contact (approximately the same age) or near-peer contact (you know, the 18-year-old man with the 15-year-old boyfriend).

By the by, the doctor's position is stated in a religious blog, not a scientific journal. He does have his critics, which includes claims that only two of the eight studies he cited were actually mentioned and not all of his identical twin studies he cited actually contained identical twins.
http://iamchristianiamanatheist.blogspot.com/2013/11/identical-twin-studies-do-not-show.html

...and claims that Dr. Whitehead is a member of NARTH, the National Organization for the Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, a group that supports gay conversion therapy; hardly an objective party.
http://holybulliesandheadlessmonste...lay-game-of-spank-homophobe.html#.VZmaqvlVjiM

Finally, more recent research presented at the 2012 American Society of Human Genetics conference suggests that identical twins are not exactly identical, even genetically:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html?_r=0
http://www.livescience.com/24694-identical-twins-not-identical.html

Interesting, huh?

Happy Independence Day weekend everyone!
 
Oops! My apologies. I meant to write that only 35% of gay men report being sexually abused, and 75% of gay men report engaging in some same-sex contact before age 16.

That written, if only 35% of gay or bi-sexual men were the victims of sexual abuse then what about the other 65% who were not but who still identify as gay? Clearly, most adult gay men were not sexually abused as children. Also, for the 75% of gay men who engaged in some sex same contact before age 16, the data did not take into account peer contact (approximately the same age) or near-peer contact (you know, the 18-year-old man with the 15-year-old boyfriend).

By the by, the doctor's position is stated in a religious blog, not a scientific journal. He does have his critics, which includes claims that only two of the eight studies he cited were actually mentioned and not all of his identical twin studies he cited actually contained identical twins.
http://iamchristianiamanatheist.blogspot.com/2013/11/identical-twin-studies-do-not-show.html

...and claims that Dr. Whitehead is a member of NARTH, the National Organization for the Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, a group that supports gay conversion therapy; hardly an objective party.
http://holybulliesandheadlessmonste...lay-game-of-spank-homophobe.html#.VZmaqvlVjiM

Finally, more recent research presented at the 2012 American Society of Human Genetics conference suggests that identical twins are not exactly identical, even genetically:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html?_r=0
http://www.livescience.com/24694-identical-twins-not-identical.html

Interesting, huh?

Happy Independence Day weekend everyone!

No, I do not know what you do in life, but I am glad that you are not a researcher. Because I can take someone's research and accept its own interpretations versus trying to put my own twist on it.

You want to act as if you agree with the doctor and then you act as if he is not credible.

It seems like you are confused and are not actually searching for real answers.

For everybody else,

Yes, some people are homosexual by choice.

Yes, some homosexuals became that way because of other interpersonal issues, like child sexual abuse, lack of father issues and to close to your mother issues.

Yes, no one is homosexual because it is genetic...which means there is not a gay gene.

And for this thread, there are many pedophiles whom are also homosexuals (and pedophile sympathizers) that are seeking rights to be allowed to lawfully get to our children to have sex with them.
 
Yes, you are right. I became a Psychologist because of some of this looking for answers myself. If my Anger Management Counseling has helped me personally. How could you not be angry when you witness how childhood sexual abuse can ultimately KIll You!

I also believe in positive confrontation. I confronted my dad. But my brother's conversation with my dad would have been different.

The only way to stop abuse is to acknowledge it and decide what different paths you will take with your life.

1. Even though I do not have sons, I only have daughters, I will NEVER leave them alone with any of those family members that were connected with the abuse. For instance, it seems like this Aunt never confronted her son. I am not sure if she confronted her husband before he died. But her stance has been that I am not my son.

2. I do not leave my kids with any family member that has boundary issues. Boundary issues can include looking at pornography around kids, sleeping with married people, sleeping with cousins, excessive alcohol and drug abuse, etc...

At the end of the day, I only have left my children with people that I know will protect them as if they are their own kids.

Hats off to you and your profession. And it's so good to know you are watching out for your daughters to put a stop to what happened to your brothers within the family history. It's sad that your Aunt would make such a statement like that in regards to her son. She can't go back to when he was harmed as a child and make things right for him, but in his eyes, she is his mother continually, his nurturer, his protector like his father should have been too. It's so sad to here adults shake off their children like that. You know, I have sons and I was severely persecuted for my stance in protecting my sons against family 'trends' of abuse too, and etc. and I'm so glad I did!...Because time reveals a lot of negative manifestations that my sons did not have to deal with because of my actions and now, they see it and thank me for it.
 
No, I do not know what you do in life, but I am glad that you are not a researcher. Because I can take someone's research and accept its own interpretations versus trying to put my own twist on it.

You want to act as if you agree with the doctor and then you act as if he is not credible.

It seems like you are confused and are not actually searching for real answers.

For everybody else,

Yes, some people are homosexual by choice.

Yes, some homosexuals became that way because of other interpersonal issues, like child sexual abuse, lack of father issues and to close to your mother issues.

Yes, no one is homosexual because it is genetic...which means there is not a gay gene.

And for this thread, there are many pedophiles whom are also homosexuals (and pedophile sympathizers) that are seeking rights to be allowed to lawfully get to our children to have sex with them.
Of course research has to be evaluated in order to judge whether it is reliable and valid. There's a lot of junk science out there, including biased research, tainted research and outright fake research. It wasn't that long ago that the cigarette industry was putting out research saying there was no harm in smoking, remember? And does anybody remember the famous Bell Curve, which purports there are documented racial differences in intelligence?

I don't advise anyone to "take someone's research and accept its own interpretations" without considering the source. In this case, the research cited appeared in a religious publication, not a peer-reviewed scientific publication; was published by someone who reportedly is a member of a group that supports gay conversion therapy; and upon closer inspection, the research appears to have technical problems.
 
Of course research has to be evaluated in order to judge whether it is reliable and valid. There's a lot of junk science out there, including biased research, tainted research and outright fake research. It wasn't that long ago that the cigarette industry was putting out research saying there was no harm in smoking, remember? And does anybody remember the famous Bell Curve, which purports there are documented racial differences in intelligence?

I don't advise anyone to "take someone's research and accept its own interpretations" without considering the source. In this case, the research cited appeared in a religious publication, not a peer-reviewed scientific publication; was published by someone who reportedly is a member of a group that supports gay conversion therapy; and upon closer inspection, the research appears to have technical problems.

But, I gave you one that was not.

Plus, there is a professional way that you do research or evaluate or criticize someone's work.

What you don't supposed to do is make it what you want it to be. At this point, I am not sure what you support other than, 'they said....they always felt that way'...

A professional would look for the deeper meaning. It does not seem like you are in search for deeper meanings and this is about people's lives. There are so many people that are part of the LGBT community based on someone telling them things like I knew you were gay because how you run, your mannerisms, your lack of involvement with sports, and other Stupid stereotypes. Because of even some of these stereotypes, they have come to question their masculinity. This is mentioned in one of the papers I quoted.

If you were researcher, which I respect the fact and understand that you are not, you would have to deal with your own bias. Then you would attempt to prove what you believe. In the end, when you evaluate your data you would have to be honest with yourself...'did I prove it or prove something else'... in this case no one would use your research because you would never be able to prove anything because of your unwillingness to look beyond what you believe and accept the results even if your data rejects your hypothesis.

As far as Black people and intelligence, if we did not dare to look deeper...'they ' would still be trying to get away with trying to prove Black people are inferior to White people. We all know the people that believe that are just ignorant.

So, it seems like you want to be open and accepting of their lifestyles, which is your prerogative, however usually we actually help people when we do not enable them.

There might be that one person that is in your circle that might want you to ask him... how long have you known you were gay, or when did choose to be gay, or have you ever been sexually abused (only ask really close friends)... or 'what do you mean by you when you say 'I was born this way' ' . Maybe their answers do not matter to you. Personally it seems like you are more sympathetic than empathetic.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect yours.

Since this thread is about pedophiles wanting rights and recognition like homosexuals, would you feel comfortable with any of your homosexual friends watching your sons ( if you have young sons under the age of consent or adults)?
 

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