Black People : Osama Bin Laden Offers Americans Truce...

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  1. Aqil

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    In an audio tape broadcast on Aljazeera, Osama bin Laden has warned that al-Qaida was preparing an attack very soon, but also offered Americans a "long-term truce."

    "The new operations of al-Qaida has not happened not because we could not penetrate the security measures. It is being prepared and you'll see it in your homeland very soon," the voice attributed to bin Laden said, apparently addressing Americans. But the voice on the tape, which appeared to be aimed at the American public, also offered a truce: "We do not mind establishing a long-term truce between us and you."

    The tape, broadcast on Thursday but dated to December last year, comes after a year of silence from the al-Qaida leader. "This message is about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how to end those wars," it began. "It was not my intention to talk to you about this, because those wars are definitely going our way. But what triggered my desire to talk to you is the continuous deliberate misinformation given by your President, when it comes to polls made in your home country which reveal that the majority of your people are willing to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq.

    "We know that the majority of your people want this war to end and opinion polls show the Americans don't want to fight the Muslims on Muslim land, nor do they want Muslims to fight them on their land. But Bush does not want this and claims that it's better to fight his enemies on their land rather than on American land. Bush tried to ignore the polls that demanded that he end the war in Iraq."

    "We are getting increasingly stronger, while your situation is getting from bad to worse," he told the U.S., referring to poor U.S. troop morale and the huge economic losses inflicted by the war. "The war in Iraq is raging and the operations in Afghanistan are increasing. "In response to the substance of the polls in the U.S., which indicate that Americans do not want to fight Muslims...we do not mind offering a long-term truce based on just conditions that we will stick to. We are a nation that Allah banned from lying and stabbing others in the back, hence both parties of the truce will enjoy stability and security to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan, which were destroyed by war."

    "There is no problem in this solution, but it will prevent hundreds of billions from going to influential people and warlords in America - those who supported Bush's electoral campaign - and from this, we can understand Bush and his gang's insistence on continuing the war." Addressing Americans again, he said: "If your desire for peace, stability and reconciliation was true, here we have given you the answer to your call."

    Bin Laden, who had not been heard of since a 27 December 2004 audiotape in which he anointed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - Iraq's most wanted man - as al-Qaida's leader in Iraq, also said his network was winning the war against the U.S. "I would like to tell you that everything is going to our advantage and the number of your dead is increasing, according to Pentagon figures."

    Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's deputy, said in a September videotape that his leader was still alive and leading the jihad against the West.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/593298A0-3C1A-4EB4-B29D-EA1A9678D922.htm
     
  2. HODEE

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    Interesting

    I read that. Your post has the main parts left out on MSN. I'm waiting for the authentication.

    If it is confirmed could it be a ploy for us to let down the guard ? Or do they need a breather before round 5?
     
  3. Aqil

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    I don't know, Hodee...many Arab newspapers aren't carrying the story. Check this out:

    Osama Bin Laden Tapes: Fact or fiction?

    The audiotapes of Osama Bin Laden have become an important medium between al-Qaida network and the outside world. If authentic, these tapes could enable Bin Laden to convey his opinions to his enemies and followers, issue threats, and even claim responsibility for terror attacks carried out by his group. It is obvious that the usefulness of such tapes cannot be questioned, but how can people be sure of their origin and authenticity? Little time is dedicated to such examinations. But an analysis can really influence the way we judge similar evidence in the future.

    There is no reason whatsoever to believe that these audiotapes are authentic. While they are always followed by reports of scientific voice analyses, these studies have been invariably done by CIA experts. In fact, only one occasion was an independent analysis done. And while American officials were certain of the tape’s authenticity, Swedish scientists were convinced that it was fake.

    Consider yesterday’s audiotape, in which Bin Laden warned that al-Qaida is planning new attacks against the United States, but offered a conditional “long-term truce”, which the White House rejected. Hours after the tape's release, CIA officials said it is a “genuine message” from Bin Laden. “Following a technical analysis, the voice on the tape is believed to be that of Osama Bin Laden,” said a CIA official. On the other hand, several experts doubted the tape's authenticity. “It was like a voice from the grave,” said Bruce Lawrence, a Duke professor, who analyzed more than 20 complete speeches and interviews of the al-Qaida chief for his recent book Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama Bim Laden.

    Other officials draw a similarity between the tape and the latest U.S. missile air strike on the Afghan border that angered the Pakistanis for killing more than 18 civilians. The U.S. said that its strike was aimed at targeting Bin Lade’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri. It even claimed that the attack killed top al-Qaida officials, though the Pakistanis insisted that only civilians were present in the hit area. "It seems that there's some relationship between this tape and the U.S. strike, both in the content and the timing. Over more than the past year, al-Zawahri has been the one issuing tapes, and Bin Laden has been very careful not to appear at all, and now all of a sudden he's deviated from that," said Kenneth Katzman, a terrorism analyst at Congressional Research Service, an in-house think-tank of the U.S. Congress.

    In several occassions no evidence was provided to support claims of the authenticity of such tapes. The media and politicians seem little concerned about such issues. Moreover, the fact that al-Qaida adopted new tactics since this unverified medium emerged was never discussed. For example, the network has never claimed responsibility for any attack before the taped messages. But since their introduction, al-Qaida has taken responsibility for several attacks, including those against German tourists in Tunisia, Israeli tourists in Kenya, and the Madrid bombings. The group even released a taped admission of involvement in the 9/11 attacks, despite all their previous pre-audiotape protestations to the contrary.

    Moreover, nobody ever tried to explain why Bin Laden focuses on U.S. global interests rather than his own troubles in Afghanistan. Since 9/11, it seemed that Bin Laden preferred to target U.S. forces in Iraq than in Afghanistan. Strange also is why al-Qaida would use an audiotape message to threaten France, Russia and Germany, even though all three countries opposed the Bush administration’s “War on Terror” to Bin Laden’s alleged new pet-project, Iraq .

    Never addressed as well is the timing of the release of such audiotapes. One of the previous audiotapes was released just two days before the first anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Its message actually preceded Bush's first UN appeals on Iraq by a few days, as well as similar lobbying before the U.S. Congress. Another tape emerged a year later, while Bush tried to win financial aid from Asian countries for Iraq’s reconstruction. This one also came before a donors’ conference in Madrid just the following week.

    Some analysts were quick to point to the perfect timing of the latest tape. They suggest that if the speaker really is Bin Laden, then the tape will certainly boost support for Bush. In addition to cooling down the anger provoked by the CIA’s strike in Pakistan, opposition to the Iraq war is growing; midterm elections are coming up; and international pressures are mounting on Iran over its nuclear program. The content of such tapes is as equally alarming as their timing. The push for the Iraq war, for example, won support when a Bin Laden audiotape helped to cement U.S. claims of links between al-Qaida and Saddam Hussein. This tape was released in February 2003, while the U.S. lobbied heavily for a second UN resolution on Iraq, and just a month before the war began.

    Some analysts say that if yesterday’s tape was Bin Laden’s, then it also proves another thing. The war on terror didn’t end terrorism and wouldn’t prevent further attacks on the United States. In a CNBC interview, Vice President Cheney said that the tape is a reminder that a “serious threat” to the United States remained. The audiotape would also assert the statements made by House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), who said after the July bombings in London that President Bush's "fight them there, not here" strategy plainly wasn't working.

    Even after the case about the authenticity of such tapes has been made, some may still wonder if it really matters whether they are real or not. It most certainly does. While the audiotapes purportedly sent out by Bin Laden were seldom at the forefront of the debate to launch war, they were key factors in creating a climate of fear in which pro-war rhetoric grew. And it is precisely for this reason that these tapes require the same level of analysis as any other piece of evidence used to convince the world about the war.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=10544
     
  4. Dual Karnayn

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    Usama bin Ladeen has been dead so long, his teeth are starting to rot.
     
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    Brother Dual ... where is your evidence of this?

    Brother Aqil and HODEE ... thanks for sharing.

    Unfortunately, i don't trust any "news" they give us. We never really know if it's true or not.

    Brother Aqil mentioned that many Arab newspapers aren't carrying the story. If it were true, surely they would, right?

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    bin laden , santa, the easter bunny, elvis, and tupac are planning an attack.
     
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