Black Spirituality Religion : Origins of the Fictional characters of the bible, quran and talmud

Discussion in 'Black Spirituality / Religion - General Discussion' started by Ra Nehem, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. Ra Nehem

    Ra Nehem Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Mikyia mo (Greetings),

    Here is a link to a series of articles from my website dealing with the origins of the fictional characters of the bible, quran and talmud.

    http://www.odwirafo.com/ktposts.doc

    jesus, yeshua ben pandira, moses, aaron, abraham, isaac, ishmael, muhammed, bilal, solomon, sheba, menelik, buddha, allah, yahweh, brahmin, the devas and devis, etc. are all absolutely fictional characters who never existed of any race whatsoever.

    We must wake up.

    Feel free to check out the rest of the website. We have a number of free downloads (books, CDs and webcasts) dealing with Afurakani/Afuraitkaitnit (African) Ancestral Religion.

    www.odwirafo.com


    Ma asomdwoee-Hetep (Peace),
    Ra Nehem
     
  2. spicybrown

    spicybrown Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    *waits for thread to take off*

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  3. OmowaleX

    OmowaleX Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    A few , months ago I posted a thread with a link to your information on KUKUU-TUNTUM.

    In fact, it was from your cite that I started to question other information related to Kemet" because I have for years studied from a book entitled THE AFRICAN HERITAGE OF THE AKAN and your stie made a connection between the Akan and the TWI which confirmed some research I had done affirming that a large numers of Africans in America not only were akin to the AKAN but also a link to the TWI, which also established a link to the CONGO which is often overlooked when examining our roots. I also came to the conclusion that the Congo River CIVILIZATIONS (including shona, zimbabwe) predated those of the Nile Valley and since the portuguese invasion into the Congo Basin there has been much effort to destroy evidence of the high culture which developed there which has also been covered up by the "egyptologists."

    I must say that I can come to agree that the "characters" you mentioned are basically "mythological" except for in the case of the Prophet Muhammad because there is historical evidence of the rise of Islam from so-called relatives of his and because of the historical record relative to the rise of Islamic society. Yet, since there are no artistic "images" from a first hand account (primary source) I will not argue the point.

    If it is true that all the forementioned are "mythological" I must then question if the same is true in regards to Osiris (Ausar), Isis (Auset) Horus (Heru) etc.
     
  4. ShemsiEnTehuti

    ShemsiEnTehuti Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I only wanted to address this particular comment. I think that Ausar, Auset, and Heru were probably at least based off of real persons who were the founders of Kemetic Pharaonic authority. As in much ancestor worship, these persons were simply deified and stories were created to embellish their attributes.
     
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    Okay brother ShemsiEnTehuti, I wont argue against your comment. Perhaps you are correct.

    And my reason for asking this is because there are some who have stated that Ausar, Auset and Heru are either "Stars (i.e. Sirian system) or "Neteru", reducing them to aspects or attributes of "Neter" (i.e. "God").

    I have always considered them as hereditary, pre-Dynastic rulers of Kmt of which the "legends" of other cultures, including the Sumerian, appropriated.
     
  6. Eye of Amma

    Eye of Amma New Member MEMBER

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    I think our problem here is the failure to recognize that our ancestors constantly borrowed and built ideology from the more ancient ancestries and some how we have began to exclude particular ancient religious writings from the norm our ancestors used to formulate ideology.

    If we are to start looking at the Bible as being a corruption then we must also start looking at Egypt as being a corruption of Dogon Cosmology. We would be foolish to stop at Egypt and view the ideology of Egypt as absolute and correct.

    One can clearly identify that Osiris and Jesus are corruptions of O-Nummo. As a matter of fact Jesus being hung on a cross is detailed in the sacrifice of the O-Nummo in the Dogon Song. Amma hung the O-Nummo on a Cross as the O-Nummo’s body parts were used by Amma to create several planets. Osiris being cut into peaces by Seth is a corruption of the Dogon Song of Amma / GOD cutting the O-Nummo into peaces to build the celestial bodies of space.

    We need to start accepting the reality that ALL ancient religious doctrine was created by Africans and stop trying to use the white man as a Scapegoat to belittle African works. Otherwise we have to dismiss everything that is not an absolute mach of its source. We would have to reject the idea of Osiris because he is a corruption of O-Nummo.

    The Dogon call Amma, GOD, The Supreme Being. So when Egyptians corrupt the idea of O-Nummo being cut into peaces by Amma as Osiris being cut into peaces by Set (Evil). Who is Seth representing in the corrupted version of Egypt?

    This is the exact same ideology found in the New Testament representation of the Beast in Revelations and the Mark of the Beast. When looking at the only Being that places a Mark on HIS follower’s forehead we find it is GOD, Amma, The Supreme Being. So in reality the New Testament is calling GOD the Beast in the same way Egyptian theology calls GOD Seth (Evil).

    There is a war taking place and this war is between Monotheist (Neter followers) and Polytheist (Neteru followers).

    Neter is found in our ancestors before and during dynasties 1 to 4. Neteru is found after the 4th dynasty and from their it serves to corrupt original Egyptian concepts such as replacing Ptah with Maat and replacing the original aquatic ancestors of the Ogdoad with the mammal ancestors of the Ennead and turned them into gods (Neteru).

    If we are going to call the Bible corruptions then we must also do the same with Kemet because it is a corruption of Dogon.

    It would be more appropriate to understand religion as having two main ideologies that our ancestors practiced. One would be Neter (Monotheistic Ideology) and the other would be Neteru (Polytheistic Ideology).

    Over time Polytheistic Ideology serves to be the Duality / Opposition of Monotheistic Ideology to replace the Supreme Being or view the Supreme Being as Evil.

    This is the exact same Duality found between the Old and New Testament.

    Osiris eventually serves to replace the Supreme Being all of this was copied or transferred to Jesus serving to replace YH in the Old Testament. All of it was formulated from the source of the Ogo seeking to replace or out do Amma.

    If we fail to connect ALL of these ideologies then we fail in the observation of a True perspective of integration. The Supreme Being is the same Supreme Being rather IT is Amma of the Dogon Song or YH of the Old Testament or Holy Scriptures.
     
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    Where have I heard this argument before?

    :thinking:
     
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    Blackbird Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Yes, it sounds eerily familiar to someone else..... Nah, it can't be, can it?

    Blackbird
     
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