Black People : "One-Drop Rule" - Look White/Identify as Black

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  1. cherryblossom

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    Pike County, Ohio: As Black as We Wish to Be

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    In this episode Al Letson and guest producer Lu Olkowski visit a tiny town in the Appalachian foothills of Ohio where, for a century, residents have shared the common bond of identifying as African-American despite the fact that they look white. Racial lines have been blurred to invisibility, and people inside the same family can vehemently disagree about whether they are black or white. It can be tense and confusing. As a result, everyone’s choosing: Am I black? Am I mixed race? Or, am I white?

    For more information on “As Black As We Wish to Be” visit our episode page for photos, links and music information.

    RECORDED INTERVIEWS HERE: http://stateofthereunion.com/pike-county-ohio
     
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    http://stateofthereunion.com/home/season-3/pike-county-oh

    Pike County, OH – As Black as We Wish to Be

    In this episode Al Letson and guest producer Lu Olkowski visit a tiny town in the Appalachian foothills of Ohio where, for a century, residents have shared the common bond of identifying as African-American despite the fact that they look white. Racial lines have been blurred to invisibility, and people inside the same family can vehemently disagree about whether they are black or white. It can be tense and confusing. As a result, everyone’s choosing: Am I black? Am I mixed race? Or, am I white? Adding to the confusion, there’s a movement afoot to recognize their Native-American heritage.

    LISTEN HERE: http://stateofthereunion.com/home/season-3/pike-county-oh
     
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    Some of these families trace their oral family history to one of the children of Sally Hemings and Thomas Jefferson.

    And no matter how they have inter-married through the years, no matter how "white-looking" they are, they still self-identify as Black.

    It has divided one family in particular and this community as a whole on race/color lines.

    Interesting interviews to hear from people who identify as Black in White skin.

    IMO, this is the epitome of the "One-Drop Rule."
     
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    I listened to this through another website about a week ago. Very interesting but although I hate the way the one sister treated the other in high school, I tend to agree with her assessment that she is a white person with some black ancestry rather than a "black person".
     
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    This is very interesting.
     
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    I agree but their mother aint having it! lol

    No matter how white she is, to her, SHE is BLACK, her children are BLACK and her grand-children are BLACK.

    She proudly shows off her birth certificate which says she is "Black."
     
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    If the daughter wants to identify with white, then so be it. But it's sad and pathetic that she is ashamed of her identity/race and family. And is calling herself white in order to fit in and live comfortable.
    As far as her son, smh, and his father...telling his son that he can join his group when he gets older. My goodness.
     
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    I didn't really see it as her being "ashamed of her identity/race/family."

    She doesn't hide her family ancestry. She told her husband about it before they were married. ---- She just doesn't wanna be pigeon-holed as "Black" when everything about her says "White."

    Well, when she was in high school, yes, she was cruel to her sister.

    But, as an adult she has regretted that behavior.

    Really, this community and her mother has pushed her into a corner.

    Here is this "white girl" who has a white-looking mother (with some Black ancestry) and a white father. But, her white-looking mother tells everybody that she is Black.

    This "white girl" also married white.

    But, here she is "trapped" in a family and community that says she is Black......from the wrong sides of the tracks AND a "n!gg3r."

    That kind of identity conflict and treatment can/will wreak havoc on a young child's mind/emotions and development, especially as she grew up in her neighborhood and at school. Think of the pressure/desire she had to "fit in."

    Flip this: Let's say, your family has oral and/or documented history of white ancestry. How would you feel if your Black mother went around telling everybody she is WHITE? ....Tells your friends/boyfriends/co-workers, anybody she comes into contact with, she feels compels to inform them, "Well, you know we're White, right?"

    And here are you and your Black father with a mother/wife telling folks she's WHITE just cuz her great-great-great-grand-somebody was White.

    Sometimes, very light-skinned Black mothers with babies born to them were classified as "white" on birth certificates. If the hospital or mid-wife didn't know the mother was Black, then they thought the baby was white too.
     
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    When you don't want anyone to meet your family because your family is black you're ashamed.
     
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