Black People : On Fate, Dysfunction & Action

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  1. skuderjaymes

    skuderjaymes Contextualizer Synthesizer MEMBER

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    I believe in Fate. not the magically kind on Tv.. but the kind that
    you make.. if your child is not a priority in your life, it will show in your
    child. Whatever demons (personal deficiencies) the parents have not
    worked their way through, will affect the children. The sins of the father /
    mother landing on the kids is not a mysterious biblical thing, it's a practical
    anecdote... if daddy is an alcoholic, then sonny will pay for it by being
    beholden to an alcoholic father. daddy's irresponsibility will affect his ability
    to give that child what he needs. If mom is unloving, then sonny will grow
    up without the love of his mother.. that's what it means. That is that child's
    fate. But it's not mystical, it's created by that child's parents actions which
    are inextricably bound to the circumstances those parents find themselves
    in.. a circumstance created partly by the actions of their own parents..
    that's how I believe dysfunction is indirectly passed down from generation
    to generation.. Each generation has an opportunity to break the cycle by
    recognizing and working through their own personal deficiencies for the
    purpose of positively affecting their circumstances. And by deficiencies I
    mean: emotional, physical, mental, social, financial, etc.. but to do that
    each person has to have an idea of what a healthy state of mind looks and
    feels like.

    Fate, then, is created by a combination of action and circumstance. The
    action part, we control, the circumstances we don't control, but can affect
    with our action. If this child's parents don't act on their concern for the
    child's education, then that child will, not be well educated. Caring is not
    enough. Care has to be acted upon to mean anything. But we can only act
    on what we have control or influence over. So our theories on what
    everyone else should do are only useful to the degree that they motivate
    us and others to act.​

    thoughts? Ideas? Comments?
  2. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Dyfunction has been proven to be very profitable since the so called age of discovery.

    It has been found and scientificaly proven that if one removes the protective mechanism of culture,
    then dysfunction, will definatly ensue,
    within any race or ethnic gruop

    Richard Golding wrote a book called
    "Lord of the Flies" to Illustrate this

    the history of sociology and psychology of humanity and mankind has found that it is only 2 percent of any group ethnicity or race that
    can surpass seemingly insurmountable circumstances,
    to live a dignified life, emotionaly and psychologicaly unscathed.

    If science by virtue of the analysis of history predicates that it is a minut segment of society that can overide the great hurdle of an unkind fate,
    then what is to be the plight of the larger masses in the hopes of enduring such?

    Scientificaly one must look towards culture as
    the factor of preventing dysfunction.

    For instance; there was always dope and there was always booze

    in every part of the planet and in every era, however according to the slave narratives, the writings of Africans purchased to be frred bt Quakers,
    palm wine was noted to be imbibed , but it was emphasized that never was there a case of drunkenness or disorderly behasvior, in west African culture, in precaptive recollections, nor the recreational use of the various psychoative herbs and roots, and barks.

    Now look at the amount of alcoholism and drug addiction and abuse within all economic strata of the national Black community.

    The sisters and brothers went on to describe the education of the youth.
    masndatory eduction, andformal, from the ages of 5 o 16,
    and with a peer pressure towards scholastic excellence

    now look at the drop out rates ,the level of failure and general attitude towards education or going to school, among the descendants of those same youth, here n the US

    Sociology, behooves one to look at how the adoption or creation of certain cultures has an effect on canceling the dysfunctional effects of fate,

    The Ausar Auset community
    Smau Tauii
    Nation of Islam
    NOGE (non godbody related)
    various liberation theology churches
    an several Isrealite Nations

    have by and large created paradigms were members for generations have escaped the various and sundry pathologies,
    of dysfunction.

    The interesting thing about these groups is that unlike Freemasonry, Rhoma(gypsies)

    they do not keep their paradigms and methodologies a secret but readily share them with the larger Black commnity

    One particular paradigm, vehemently attacked by COINTELPRO, in the hopes that it would die in obscurity is

    the 7 Principles of the Nguzo Saba,
    adopted by Black nationalist Ron Karenga, from the nation building community building principles formed by Pan Africanist Julius Nyere.

    They feared with great anxiety and trepidation that if these 7 principles were to ever become,
    a real and heart felt paradigm in the Black community,
    the corporate oligarchy would face loosing billions in profiting from mass dysfunctionality
  3. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Umoja (Unity)
    To strive for and maintain unity in the family, community, nation and race.
    Kujichagulia (Self-Determination)
    To define ourselves, name ourselves, create for ourselves and speak for ourselves.
    Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility)
    To build and maintain our community together and make our brother's and sister's problems our problems and to solve them together.
    Ujamaa (Cooperative Economics)
    To build and maintain our own stores, shops and other businesses and to profit from them together.
    Nia (Purpose)
    To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness.
    Kuumba (Creativity)
    To do always as much as we can, in the way we can, in order to leave our community more beautiful and beneficial than we inherited it.
    Imani (Faith)
    To believe with all our heart in our people, our parents, our teachers, our leaders and the righteousness and victory of our struggle