These definitions were offered by Baller in the now-closed, "I'm Going To Leave Now" thread by Sophiag.. a white user that has decided to leave this site. Though Im not really sure why the thread was closed, as their was quite a bit of substantive dialogue going on there around a set of issues that I believe we need to examine more closely as a group. This thread is not about continuing that conversation, this thread is contextual shift from the actions and motivations of a White person to the action to motivation of the black participants. Surely a dialogue on such important ideas is not in any direct or indirect violation of any rules here at Destee.com.. so, I'd like to levy a challenge to Baller's definitions/usage of Racism,Racist and Discrimination. I'd also like to attempt to show where these definitions come from and how and why they are used.. Here are the definitions Baller offered as the basis for his criticism of some of the comments in that thread. Again.. those are the definitions that Baller used as the basis for his criticism of some of the comments in the IM LEAVING thread ( http://www.destee.com/index.php?threads/im-going-to-leave-now.68934/page-7#post-712042 )... 1st thing.. Racism is not discrimination or prejudice based on race. Racism contains discrimination.. and prejudice.. as practical elements.. but Discrimination is discrimination and prejudice is prejudice.. Racism is a system of control enacted by White people for the purpose of maintaining their dominance over non-white people. Let me say that again... Racism is a system of control enacted by White people for the purpose of maintaining their dominance over non-white people. And this dominance is a dominance that has been attained by ruthless and horrific acts of murder, rape, torture, injustice and terror against the men, women and children of the dominated non-white people. I offer the African Holocaust and the outright slaughter of the Native American people as evidence. Racism operates simultaneously on multiple coordinated levels.. on a Civic Level, on Commerce level on a Social level.. etc.. for example, on a Civic level racism is enacted through legislation aimed at maintaining the dominance of white citizens over non-white citizens.. This includes the education system.. the judicial system.. policing of communities.. social services.. etc.. At the Commerce level, Racism is enacted through discriminatory practices with regard to hiring, firing, wages, benefits, etc.. at the Social level, the system of Racism is enacted through the demonization of black people in the media.. intentional social segregation.. demeaning, debasing language and behavior aimed at black people for the purpose of whites maintaining a comparatively elevated social status. That's what Racism is.. and more importantly.. that is what Racism is for. It is a system aimed at a specific objective.. it's not language.. or discrimination.. it's an entire system of oppression.. social, political, economic, judicial, etc.. that is underwritten by unadulterated, horrific and ruthless violence. Context is everyeveryeverything. The definition of Racism that you operate under is the definition that the Dominant group has created for you through their media.. its an abstract definition that can be lifted and dropped on anyone.. on anygroup.. its a definition devoid of any real substance or accountability. It simply floats in the air waiting to be applied.. But actual Racism is a deliberate and organized system of maintaining dominance.. and its codified in law and in cultural practices.. Its not words.. or speech.. or thoughts.. its action. And without dominance, you cannot exercise a system of racism. Its white folks that wish to remove themselves from the equation that favor these very light abstract definitions.. they then point to the abstraction as the culprit.. so Discrimination is bad.. not white folks practicing discrimination.. discrimination itself.. and that leads to the second term.. Racist.. A Racist is a member of the dominant group that actively participates in the execution of the system of Racism and/or directly benefits from the execution of the system of racism. It has very little to do with Hate.. it has to do with context.. with action.. not emotion.. or words.. a person who loves black people can still be a racist. The hate part has been refined and codified into the cultural practices of the dominant culture.. its ingrained now.. ground into a fine mist and mixed into the foundation of the cultural institutional practices of the Dominant group.. its the reason why they look down at the more overt racist attitudes and actions of the less refined members of their group.. they are essentially saying to them, "we don't have to do it like that anymore".. so.. those are the definitions I offer you.. and with regards to your criticism of the thread content, I offer you this: you opened with this, "Although I haven't went back to review any of her posts, I’ve read through a number of the responses here…and have become disgusted. The young lady decided to leave because of your treatment of her." let me ask you: If you haven't done the back reading, how can you possibly understand the context of the responses? and without the full picture, how can you write such a passionate criticism of the participants in that thread? I find it to be peculiar at best.. and disrespectful at worst.. you are essentially saying, "it don't matter what she did or said, you guys are wrong".. but, again, how can you judge wrongness without possessing the details of the story? I'm reminded again of that Sophia and Miss Millie Clip from the Color Purple where only the black reaction is judged.. and the white offense is completely.. (pathologically I'd suggest) ignored (see below). In my opinion, such a impassioned paternal reaction to black criticism of white action demands serious psychosocial analysis.. or at least a conversation.