Black People : Ok now this is crazy!

Discussion in 'Black People Open Forum' started by IssaEl21, Sep 30, 2004.

  1. IssaEl21

    IssaEl21 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Ok now this is crazy! But please read. This requires our attention.



    Guess what is QUIETLY being put through the House and Senate - a DRAFT

    starting 2005. If you are against this, you better pass this on

    IMMEDIATELY! I was not aware of this until I received this today.


    Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26) starting June 15,
    2005,is something that everyone should know about.

    This literally affects everyone since we all have or know children that
    will have to go if this bill passes. There is pending legislation in the
    house and senate (companion bills:S89 and HR 163) which will time the
    program's initiation so the draft can Begin as early as spring, 2005,
    just after the 2004 presidential election.

    The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now,
    while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this
    is needed immediately. Details and links follow.


    This plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a shelter
    and includes women in the draft. Also, crossing into Canada has already
    been made very difficult.

    Actions

    Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all
    the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. . . And let your
    children know - - it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice
    for change!


    This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found in detail at the
    following website:


    http://thomas.loc.gov/


    Just enter in "HR 163" and click search and will bring up the bill for
    you to read. It is less than two pages long. If this bill passes, it
    will include all men and ALL WOMEN from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for
    military action. In addition, college will no longer be an option for
    avoiding the draft and they will be signing an agreement with the Canada
    which will no longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft To stay
    within it's borders.


    This bill also includes the extension of military service for all those
    that are currently active. If you go to the select service web site and
    read their 2004 FYI Goals You will see that the reasoning for this is to
    increase the size of the military in case of terrorism. This is a
    critical piece of legislation, this will effect our undergraduates, our
    children and our grandchildren.


    Please take the time to write your congressman and let them know how you
    feel about this legislation.

    www.house.gov www.senate.gov


    Please also write to your representatives and ask them why they aren't
    telling their constituents about these bills and write to newspapers and
    other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important
    story.


    The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 selective service
    system budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early
    as June 15, 2005. Selective service must report to Bush on March 31,
    2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for
    activation.


    Please see www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the Selective
    Service System annual performance plan, fiscal year 2004. The pentagon
    has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board
    positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide. Though this is an
    unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members
    of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long,
    Hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan (and permanent state of war on
    terrorism)
    proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.


    www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp entitled the


    Universal National service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common
    defense by requiring that all young persons (age 18-26) in the United
    States, including women, perform a period of military service or a
    period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and
    homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently
    sit in the committee on armed services.


    Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam
    era. College and Canada will not be options. In December, 200 1, Canada
    and The U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to
    keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign
    affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge,
    the declaration involves a 30 Point plan which implements, among other
    things, a "pre-clearance agreement" Of people entering and departing
    each country.


    Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class
    lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen
    would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current
    semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

    What to do: Tell your friends, Contact your legislators and ask them

    To oppose these bills

    Just type "congress" into the aol search engine and input your zip code.
    A list of your reps will pop up with a way to email them directly. We
    Cannot just sit and pretend that by ignoring it, it will go away. We
    must Voice our concerns and create the world we want to live in for our
    children And grandchildren.

    :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
     
  2. panafrica

    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank You for posting this vital information IssaEl21! If there was any doubt about who to vote for, surely this should remove all doubt! The deception of the Bush administration knows no limits! And as was the case for the draft of the Vietnam era, it should be expected for Blacks to be drafted in greater numbers than any other races (Latinos as well)! We should respond to this proposal on November 2nd...it is the only way!
     
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    This is very alarming! People if you are still thinking when is the best time to stand up and protect our children then think about your child screaming, crying, and dying for a country that has been molesting their minds and spirits since the turn of time.

    The time is now!!!!!

    I wonder if his two daughters will be exempt from this process!
     
  4. MANASIAC

    MANASIAC Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This is a False Alarm.

    I repeat that these Bills are written by DEMOCRATS. Not Republicans.

    John Rengel is a Democrat from NY and Senator Hollings is a Democrat from SC.

    Before we get started, let’s get a clear understanding of how bills in congress work:

    A bill is introduced to the congress in its respected chamber, then the bill goes thru committee (committee is the respected committee that bill needs approval from). If the bill does not pass committee, it does not come before congress to be voted on.

    This is just another revised bill (HR163) that DEMOCRAT Congressman Rengel has been trying get out of committee since January, it never made committee in Jan or Feb and it will not make it now. This bill is a DEMOCRATIC BILL I repeat this is not an attempt by the administration to pass the draft. The authors of the bill are both democrats who have been very critical of the president.



    This bill was created by the gentleman from NY Mr. Rengel because he felt like everyone should participate in the war on terror. It was created so that all citizens rich and or poor would fight for their country. The link below is a source for this statement:

    http://www.studlife.com/news/2004/0...litary.Draft.Have.Some.Concerned-664017.shtml

    This bill will not even pass the house, the republicans and a few other democrats will not let happen. Moreover the bill is still in committee and has not even been approved to be voted on as of yet. When it was introduced in January of this year it failed to leave the committee stage, if I am not mistaken it was still in committee in February.

    The companion bill (S89) was introduced in the same month and it did not even leave committee in the Senate. Moreover, Bob Frist and his republican goons will not less this pass at all.

    I am not a republican, but I want to reiterate that this bill is not a republican bill. I just want yall to be aware of this family, this is a false alarm. All these two senators are trying to do is pass their bills thru committee well they will be defeated again.

    I appreciate the brother for keeping his ears to the street of DC but the presentation of two bills that have not even made the floor of the 108th congress and more than likely will not make it (Making the floor gives the authority to vote on the bill) is just a bit overstated in my opinion.

    The Republicans control the congress (House and Senate) if they wanted a draft we would have already seen it by now.
     
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    if Bush wins, there will be a draft.
     
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    MANASIAC Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    We really got to stop shooting false shots here. Why would a draft dodger want a draft?

    The republicans control the entire congress and the presidency, they could have easily institued a draft.

    The majority republicans in congress do not want a draft. This bill is purely from a democratic miniority.
     
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    because he will not be the one to go

    not before the election, it will come after the election
     
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    are you saying bush will win???


    Is this a prediction??
    If bush loses, the bill is written by democrats it will only be passed by kerry. I agree with Manasiac this will not happen, no matter who is president. Somebody just trying to stir it up. Selective service nothing new there, nothing's changed.
     
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    high unemployment at home.
    not enough troops in Iraq.

    if Bush wins, there will be a draft.
     
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    Brother James Do yo have any references for us to read that clearly say the president is trying to push a draft, especially when his administration has been very critical of the democratic draft bill?
     
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