Black People Politics : Number of U.S. poor holds steady but gap grows

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  1. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,




    ... Poverty knows no color-line, but, we aren't alone...



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    A homeless man begs for money in the Financial District in San Francisco, California March 28, 2012. REUTERS/Robert Galbraith

    Number of U.S. poor holds steady but gap grows

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The share of people living in poverty in the United States changed little in 2011 after three years of hefty increases, according to government data released on Wednesday.
    Overall, the 2011 poverty rate was 15 percent, representing about 46.2 million Americans, down slightly from 15.1 percent in 2010, data showed.
    But median household income declined by 1.5 percent to $50,054 in 2011 from $50,831 in 2010.
    A measure of household income inequality, the Gini index, increased 1.6 percent, recording its first annual increase since 1993, the U.S. Census Bureau said.
    http://news.yahoo.com/number-u-poor-holds-steady-gap-grows-173933420--business.html

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  2. Shikamaru

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    Question:

    Why don't the poor form small organizations amongst themselves to help themselves?
    Organize to grow food, buy in bulk, etc.
     
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    I was just thinking as I looked at the image of the (supposedly) homeless person carrying an American flag. Why don't they form a homeless convention and get organized. You think maybe depression sets in and immobilizes them to the point where they lose the will to 'fight' for themselves?
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,




    ... Because they aren't organized with the state of mind to effect a universal panacea.



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  5. Shikamaru

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    Perhaps someone just needs to show/teach them how to organize and do for their group and self?
     
  6. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,




    ... A very noble thought. Question: if that were to happen, would they become an oligarchy?




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  7. Shikamaru

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    If they organize into a group, it will have a committee of leadership. The few commands the structure supported by the many, it will become an oligarchy in accordance with the Iron Law of Oligarchy especially as the group or society becomes more organized and institutionalized.
     
  8. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,




    ... It is simply remarkable to see the degree to which you support and apply, across the board, a theory claiming rule by an elite:


    The iron law of oligarchy is a political theory, first developed by the GermansyndicalistsociologistRobert Michels in his 1911 book, Political Parties.[1] It claims that rule by an elite, or "oligarchy", is inevitable as an "iron law" within any organization as part of the "tactical and technical necessities" of organization.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy


    And how you wrongly juxtapose leadership with power:

    Oligarchy (from Greekὀλιγαρχία(oligarkhía); from ὀλίγος (olígos), meaning "a few", and ἄρχω (archo), meaning "to rule or to command")[1][2][3] is a form ofpower structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, or military control. Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who pass their influence from one generation to the next.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

    Even in plain view of how these people, the power structure, the oligarchy, are distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate or military control... smh.

    None of which characteristics could be applied to a group of poor folk.



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  9. Shikamaru

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    It is amazing that you can't see that any group of significant size must resort to oligarchy due to operational efficiency ...

    Still waiting for the presentment of an organized group of significant size where everyone is in a leadership position ....

    This is a straw man argument.

    We are talking about the formation of an organized group for poor people and not the poor people themselves.
     
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    Any or Group or Tribal Consensus platform of African/Nubian people...

     
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