Black Spirituality Religion : Non-Christians From Jesus Era Confirmed His Earthly Existence

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  1. Alter2Ego

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    ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

    Below are the names of NON-CHRISTIANS who were born in the First Century AD when Jesus lived and died. All of the non-Christians provided were (1) people in powerful positions, (2) they were born in the same century in which Jesus lived and died, (3) they had no sympathy for Christians, and (4) they had nothing to gain from mentioning CHRIST in their writings. Therefore, their mention of CHRIST in their writings is all the more credible.

    PERSON #1:
    NAME and OCCUPATION: Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Historian

    DOB to DATE OF DEATH: A.D. 55 to A.D. 120

    ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Hostile

    WHAT HE SAID: He confirmed that CHRISTUS (a common misspelling of Christ at the time) was executed by Pilate.

    HIGHLIGHTS ON TACITUS:A Roman historian who lived through the reign of over a half-dozen Roman emperors, Tacitus has been called "the greatest historian of ancient Rome."


    PERSON #2:
    NAME and OCCUPATION: Flavius Josephus, Jewish Historian

    DOB to DATE OF DEATH: 37 AD -- Died after 100 AD

    ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Apathetic (could care less about them)

    WHAT HE SAID: He confirmed that Christ who performed miracles was executed by Pilate.

    HIGHLIGHTS ON JOSEPHUS: A Jewish historian of priestly and royal ancestry who recorded Jewish history, with special emphasis on the 1st century AD (the century in which Jesus Christ lived and died). He has been credited by many as recording some of the earliest history of Jesus Christ outside of the gospels. Flavius Josephus belonged to the group of Jewish religious leaders--the Pharisees--responsible for Jesus' death.


    PERSON #3:
    NAME and OCCUPATION: Plimy The Younger (born Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus), Roman Governor

    DOB to DATE OF DEATH: A.D. 55 to A.D. 120

    ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Hostile. He executed Christians

    WHAT HE SAID: Referred to Christ as a "god of the Christians."

    HIGHLIGHTS ON JOSEPHUS: Plimy condemned Men, Women, and children to death if they refused to curse Christ and if they refused to deny they were Christians.

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    "That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth."
    (Psalms 83:18)
     
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    Thank you for the welcome, Clyde. It's much appreciated.
     
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    How can "someone" who was created, live and die in a physical sense?

     
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    peace

    May i ask where you got this information from?
     
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    None of the above mentioned have seen "him" with their own eyes, by their own account. So basically they are just regurgitating information that supposedly preceded them, with again no real proof.
     
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    I used to be a Johovah's witness, so I can deal with all of their literature on any level. The first flaw in the writings above is that; "They were first called Christians in the city of Antioch, meaning that there were never any Christians alive when those people were being eaten, persecuted or whatever.

    The second issue is that, all scholars have declared that the writings of Josephus as it relates to a said Jesus are forgeries. Since he was a supposed Jew, he isn't even speaking in the Jewish language being that no Jew at that time ever accepted Jesus as being the Christ, savior or anything else. Further more, I have all the writings of Josephus and can use his supposed exact words if need be.

    Now if we want to get jiggy with this, we would have to ask why it was that Clement of Rome, (97 A.D)...Ignatius, (115 A.D), Justin Martyr (150 A.D.) and Bishop Papius (163 A.D.) never heard of or mentioned any four so called gospels in any of their writings? That's easy...they didn't exist at that point in time. The four gospels have only ONE AUTHOR...more on that with my book release.

    Now of all the people that was mentioned, there's no mention of Saul or Paul. He's more important than anyone for the simple fact that while Jesus was supposedly doing his thing, Paul was not only alive but was completing his education in Jerusalem, meaning that it would have been impossible for him not to have heard of Jesus or seen him since based upon Mark 1:28, Luke 4:14 and Matthew 9:26-31 and 4:24-25, "great multitudes came to hear him speak and followed him." They supposedly came from Galilee, Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and from beyond the Jordon. His fame went all through Syria and yet we are left to rely on some spurious writings that Biblical scholars have declared are forgeries.

    One side note: Constantine was never a Christian while he was alive. He only became so on his death bed where he was baptized!!


    Second side note: Where did they get the name Jehovah from? What dynasty in ancient Kemet were the letters YHVH found on a tomb?...and why was it referred to as a minor deity?
     
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