Black Spirituality Religion : Muslims continue to blow up churches in Nigeria

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  1. dunwiddat

    dunwiddat Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I am at a loss as to why Muslims in Nigeria continue to target Christian churches. Don't Muslims realise that Christians have the same right to believe in Jesus as they have to believe in Mohammed....and they call this a peaceful religion.:(

    This narrow minded, and backward form of intolerance is destroying the Continent of Africa. They seem to be on a mission to kill and maim. Can't they use this energy they have for destruction to good use.

    There are Muslims here in this country Barbados where I live and they continue to be able to practice their religion without fear. Here in Barbados the muslim population is mostly Indian and few blacks but it is a minority religion. I would hope that those here would never think of doing this madness here.

    Africa is crying out for help financially, medically and in other areas and this hatred and intolerance continues to destroy and place this country. What if Christian businessmen decide they want to invest in Nigeria...I doubt they would.

    The Muslim must realise that the Christian does not have to defend his God...but Muslims believe that if someone speaks evil of Mohammed they deserve death. People curse God, deny Christ and speak evil of the Christian book the bible, and noone goes on a
    vendetta to kill and destroy. As I see it radical Muslims ignorant and don't it.
     
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    If we are going a ascribe the actions of men to their religions, let me ask you: Which religion has blown up the most churches? Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism or Ifa?

    How many people have been killed by the so-called, "Christian" Nations of the world in the 2012 years of their reign over the world?

    Why does ones religion, even when radically/wrongly interpreted, receive the credit for the treachery of men?

    Why not lay the blame on their beards... or shoe sizes? "Men with beards continue to blow up churches in Nigeria"... or why not evil? "Evil men continue to blow up churches in Nigeria".. or crazy?
    "Crazy men continue to blow up churches in Nigeria".. or men with uncomfortable shoes.. "men with uncomfortable shoes continue to blow up churches in Nigeria"... ?

    but then again, the 'crazed and murderous Indian' was a very successful ploy.. as was the 'wholesome innocent western settler'.

    I guess if it ain't broke, ________________.


    - Peace.
     
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    Skuder why are you so agitated.. I made a statement and it is a fact. Why do people here on this site get bent out of shape and try to argue on issues that have no bearing on the point at issue. There is a real difference between Black Americans and Caribbean blacks and the difference is so obvious:( Why do you think you have the answer to every thing or only your ideas count. You have your say on things and I have mine. Are you the Black Taliban of the Message Board of destee.com?
     
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    I worked with many Nigerians. When the kid who tried to blow up the plane coming into metro Detroit, the Nigerian government investigated. They basically discovered they had their own version of radical Islam in their midst. The father is a well connected owner of the biggest bank in Nigeria. Though he swears he was unaware of what his son was into, the government threatened his entire family and basically, exiled them. Nigeria doesnt want any of its people or its nation considered a terrorist threat. So, they threatened the Muslem north and arrested all associated with the radicals. This has started a civil war of sorts. It will continue until one side wins





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    Are you sure the agitation is coming from me? Are you sure you are not simply feeling the movement of things thought long since nailed down within your own perspective? Truth has been known to rumble and shake; the larger the misconceptions the more things knocked out of place.. so don't blame me..

    The fact that you responded without answering a single one of the questions, nor acknowledging the point highlighted, and have instead proceeded to insult me personally.. calling me "agitated", and then reached up into the clouds of abstraction and division to a larger generic but very well-known insult that emphasizes some difference between so-called, "American Blacks" & "Caribbean Blacks".. though we are the same people congregated here under the same umbrella supposedly for the purpose of transcending our alienation.. (says quite allot.)

    Your comments immediately took me to something African Scholar Ivan Van Sertima said in one of his lectures.. he said,"It does not help us to emphasize the fantastic alienation that has divided us--not only brother from brother, but brother from sister--that we have suffered all over the world."

    And I agree completely. It does not help us.

    If I were a lessor man, I may have responded in kind to both your specific and general insult with some generic insult to so-called "Black Caribbeans", but I'm aware that you no more represent the Caribbean than I do America, and if there is any difference to be recognized here, it's the difference between you and I as individuals.

    You asked, "Why do you think you have the answer to ever..."

    However this question was intended to end, my answer would be the same: We come here on this discussion site to "discuss". Maybe you haven't noticed that in your 2-months of membership, but stick around a while and you will begin to recognize the pattern. I answer wherever I have something of substance to contribute. Perhaps that is why you have not seen me comment on topics such as, "I hate brassiers but I love my undergarments" or "Do You Like Women Who are into Body Building?".


    all of that aside.. as general rule: when you post something here, expect a response. And if you begin with the end in-mind.. that is.. shelve your assumptions, close your loops, dot your i's, cross your t's etc.. you might just find yourself engaged in a fruitful dialogue.

    -Peace.
     
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    Even though this was directed towards skuderjaymes, I'm responding also because this appears to be a typical reaction from you here....This is a discussion board. Anything you say can and/or will be "challenged." ---But, you, seemingly, take/perceive any "challenge" to your statements as some kind of personal insult and attack.

    Everyone is not going to just accept what you post and agree with/co-sign what you say. ---- This is exactly what Destee meant in her thread, "The Intimidation Of This Community." ---NOT to say that you or others are LITERALLY "intimidated" here but the kind of (figuratively) STRAIGHT-FORWARD, IN-YOUR-FACE, NO HOLDS BARRED kinds of DISCUSSION we have here, many people just can't deal with it. ---- People have STRONG opinions here and no matter how SOFTLY they may try to convey them, some others still can't handle it.

    I've noticed that whenever you ARE "CHALLENGED" on something you say that you either (a) respond with some snarky-ness (like here) or (b) You just totally ignore the poster, altogether, never acknowledging his/her post to you.

    You've done this with me and some other posters.



    Well, perhaps a CARIBBEAN DISCUSSION BOARD would be more CULTURALLY in-tune with YOUR "definition" of DISCUSSION.

    Perhaps, a CARIBBEAN DISCUSSION BOARD wouldn't be so CULTURALLY "DIFFERENT" for you than HERE with all us Black Americans.

    There are past and present members here from all over the WORLD from different CULTURAL backgrounds: Africa, England, Canada, etc..; but yet ALL these BLACK people have been able to have some very ENGAGING DISCUSSIONS HERE.....with all US BLACK AMERICANS.


    Again, this is a DISCUSSION board. There are TWO SIDES to any issue.....DISCUSSION is a GIVE-and-TAKE process.

    Just having ONLY YOUR SAY is a LECTURE or a DIRECTIVE.

    Yes, we can all "agree to disagree" once a "dead-end" has been reached; but whenever you're "challenged" on something, you almost always IMMEDIATELY opt for "RETREAT."

    And, to me, it appears that this is why you've, lately, CHANGED your "TOPICS of CHOICE.".....Lately, you've chosen "SAFER" subjects and decided to STAY AWAY from topics which might likely garner some "CHALLENGE."

    For example: "Body-Building" and "Bras & Panties." ​


    But, HERE you post a thread about "MUSLIMS-v-CHRISTIANS" and then TAKE EXCEPTION to someone CHALLENGING you on the "flavor" of your statements.

    After I addressed you on it, you stopped posting about all your SHOCK over RACISM in 2012. --- But, you sho' nuff didn't like it that I DARED to "challenge" you on WHY you would be so "SHOCKED" over 21st century racism.
     
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    For much of this post, your sentiments were painting ALL Muslims with the same brush.

    This kind of generalization is no different from those of other beliefs who speak the same about all the so-called "evils" CHRISTIANS do.

    However, it's not the RELIGION of Islam or Christianity which teaches these behaviors in hurting others.

    But, there are those who USE Islam and Christianity for their own agendas.

    ....like when some "pro-life" so-called CHRISTIANS blow up abortion clinics KILLING all the people inside.

    How hypocritical is THAT?!.....to claim to be such an advocate for LIFE but to KILL people and think they're supposed to be "justified."

    Then, you can bet SOMEBODY is gonna say, "That's them CHRISTIANS, for ya! ....and they call that a "peaceful religion!"

    Even now, some of those "CHRISTIAN" Nigerians are planning REVENGE against the Muslims there for these bombings.


    But, "Two wrong don't make a right."



    Then, at the end, you only once SPECIFY "radical Muslims."
     
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    skuderjaymes

    I could be wrong; but I strongly suspect that her true aim was not to malign Muslims or even Nigerian Muslims, per se, but to employ a similar tactic as she did with the "Hatred For Obama Continues" thread: "If you build it, they will come."

    I think what she really wanted was to "call forth" any who would offer some "WHYs" to her.....I think she wanted others to come in here and say WHAT or WHO IS behind these Muslim bombings of Christian churches.....to "correct" her "loss."

    **It has been said that the U.S./CIA is the "driving force" behind these bombings, using the radical Muslim group, Boko Haram, to achieve its aims.**​

    Perhaps, THAT is what she really wanted to talk about but came at it from the "Muslim-v-Christian" direction, instead.

    Now, that's just MY OPINION. I could be wrong.

    But, then, YOU and I are, probably, BOTH deemed members of the same "Destee TALIBAN CELL," any way. :lol:


     
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