Black People : Multi-generational anger

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  1. NNQueen

    NNQueen going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Do African Americans suffer from multi-generational anger? Over the last couple of weeks I have witnessed what I would call “anger” being expressed among members in many of the discussions. Topics that span relationships, religion, and current events catch the brunt of these heated discussions that often are reduced to petty name calling and hurling insults. What was once a novel tool to end an intelligent debate seems to have become a useless attempt in the discussions that take place here: “Let’s just agree, to disagree.” It never seems to work though. In fact, writing that often escalates the intensity of the disagreement. Because it’s becoming a predictable pattern, it makes me wonder whether most Black people suffer from a type of anger that is deeply rooted and spans generations. So, I started to do some research. But let me start by saying, I'm not necessarily agreeing with all aspects of what appears in the links nor am I advocating the content so you're free to disagree with it. I merely want to point to the fact about what's being written about us in terms of anger and how it's perceived to affect us.

    Generally, “How we deal with stress, disappointments, and frustration determines the essence of our personality. Anger may do more harm than any other emotion. First of all it is very common and, secondly, it upsets at least two people--the aggressor and the aggressed against. There are two problems: how to prevent or control your own anger and how to handle someone aggressing against you.

    The overall effects of anger are enormous (Nay, 1996). Frustration tells us "I'm not getting what I want" and eventually anger is related to violence, crime, spouse and child abuse, divorce, stormy relationships, poor working conditions, poor physical health (headaches, hypertension, GI disturbances, heart attacks), emotional disorders, and so on”. http://mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/chap7/chap7b.htm

    But what do you think causes African Americans to get so angry such that we can't seem to have constructive dialogue without an argument developing? A study was done involving African American males and here’s some of what is written:

    “The rate of incarceration and other correctional programming experienced by African American males in the United States represents an epidemic. Though various offenses are cited as reasons for this odd situation, the accused have one thing in common besides their color. They tend to be exceedingly angry. In fact, they are often enraged. Routinely this is the most vivid emotion experienced by these and other African American males and fathers. Although these feelings are intense, there is often no clear external event or circumstance that seems to relate directly to them. Thus, many of those affected do not know why they are so angry and cannot find ways to cope with, process, and escape the consequences of "free floating anger."

    In order to even begin exploring and assessing the depth of this kind of anger, we must identify its roots. This anger is not limited to current events and day-to-day realities. Rather, it brings into play "historical memories" fueled by anger that has been accumulated, vicariously, as a result of situations and suffering experienced by past generations of African Americans from the slave period to the present.

    This "multi-generational anger" is:

    Not event specific and is pervasive.
    •Often results in excessive explosiveness.
    •Usually not understood by the person or others effected.
    •Not responsive to traditional anger management curriculum.
    •Often projected inwardly through dysfunctional behaviors (i.e.: substance abuse, crime, under achievement).
    •Physically and psychologically damaging.
    •Misinterpreted by others as a genetic pre-disposition toward violence. http://www.fcnetwork.org/fatherhood/gooding.html


    You think Black women aren’t angry too? Julianne Malveaux explains why she think Black women get angry. Read a little of what Julianne wrote about Black women and anger:

    “Anger is a sign of something gone wrong. Every hell-raiser knows that. What alert Black woman living in this racist society doesn't have a right to be angry? Walk down any city street and see strong and healthy Black men out of work. Who doesn't feel a burst of anger? Flip through the pages of our federal budget and look at the tax dollars spent on MX missiles and B-1 bombers, not food or books. Isn't that cause for anger? Think about Michael Griffith chased to his death by white men in Howard Beach. Anger. The U.S. Supreme Court trying, again, to snatch our hard-won civil rights by challenging affirmative-action set-asides by asking for "proof" of discrimination in the recent Richmond vs. Croson ruling. Anger. Or what about the thousands of Black women who crave marriage and families and the forces that conspire to keep them from having them? Anger. And that Bill Moyers special "The Vanishing Family: Crisis in Black America," and the arrogance implicit in his wishful thinking? Anger. Or workfare programs, some of which look like a new kind of slavery, being implemented in city after city? Anger--a reaction to something very wrong. But there are a lot of wrongs in this unjust world, and as I get older and wiser I consider the advice of people who say "Pick your battles."
    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1264/is_n1_v20/ai_7510211

    I shared all of that to say that I can understand why there may be so many disagreements in our discussions here. As much as some of us may want to focus more on the positive side of life, our reality is, we have good reason to be angry. But as we can also see from these articles, anger can contribute to our self-destruction more so than the reasons we are angry.

    So, if you're angry, you may have every right to be so. However, we need to learn about ways to handle this emotion and channel it in ways so that it doesn’t hurt or destroy us.

    Let’s keep the discussions flowing, but let’s not suffer from misplaced rage at the same time by senselessly attacking each other. Instead of getting angry, let’s become better teachers so that we can all benefit from the lessons and information so many people have to offer.

    Peace,
    Queenie :spinstar:
     
  2. uplift19

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    This made me think about the show Black White on the FX network, where a black and white family live together and put on make up to make them look like the opposite "race." They have experiences and share how it feels to be in the other group.

    This fell apart when the Black man became increasingly angry at the white guy Bruno (that's really his name) because he didn't understand what it was like to be Black even though he went around in this "Black makeup." He couldn't get inside his head and make him understand his point of view, even though he got in his skin (literally).

    Sometimes we do look for a fight that is not there, but I think we all need to be more balanced in this regard.
     
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    i WILL SAY THAT THE REASON WHT THE LEGITAMENT ANGER IF AFRIKAN AMERIKANS HURTS US IS BECAUSE WE ARE LARGELY IGNORANT OF WHO WE ARE.

    i BELIVE THE ONES THAT KILL, SELL DRUGS, RAPE, AND ABUSE FEEL HOPLESS. THEY ARE IN SURVIVAL MODE, THEY SEE NO WAY OUT. I BELIEVE EDUCATED BLACKS (NOT MEANING COLLEGE EXCLUSIVLEY) STILL DO NOT LIKE THEIR SITUATION, BUT OVERSTAND THROUGH KNOWLEDGE AND STRATEGIC ALLIANCE THE WHITE RACE WILL BE NULLIFIED.

    ANGER IS A MOST POWERFUL TOOL WHEN USED CORRECTLY.

    I ALSO BELIEVE THAT AA'S SHOULD STOP SAYING ANY AA WHO EXPRESSES HATE OR ANIMOSITY TOWARDS WHITES ARE "ANGRY". THIS IS ALSO COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE. I HEAR A LOT OF AA WOMEN (AND MEN TOO BUT NOT AS MUCH) THAT SO AND SO IS AN "ANGRY BLACK GUY". THAT IS A DISS TO BLACK MEN AND WOMEN TO SUGGEST WE HAVE NO REASON TO BE ANGRY. THAT IS ALSO SAYING THERE IS NO REASON TO PUT THE HEAT ON WHITEY THAT THINGS ARE ALL GOOD WHEN THEY AINT.

    GREAT POIST NNQ
     
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    True, but in order for change to happen, anger must be directed towards positive energy. Some of us misdirect the anger towards other blacks... at times it's justified, at times it isn't. Too much of it causes discord and does not achieve the goals that need to be achieved.
     
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    anger is our friend.......

    the only issue is directing it toward the proper object.... :darts:
     
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    In many points i agree , we as people often seek to express
    our anger that has lap from many different things in our lives
    most of all we forget to listen to the reasons of the next person
    view or point sometime afraid we might get showed up or be wrong

    Often anger is built day by day from what one think / write / say and do
    before long we let lose like a cannon when we should balance our ways
    by agreeing to disagree , every mind wave is different the pattern wave
    move different and sometime some may know a bit more on the subject
    then the next that will tip that person off into a anger mold .

    I've seen where even after trying to enlighten someone of the truth
    some refuse to be wrong or give in afraid something been taken away
    this also bring anger , it's true that when you been displayed upon these
    action you become more the same and look for blame or to point a finger
    it's true one should pick the battle and not control the war .

    it's also known from the mental belief of what one think is right will defend
    go down for what they feel is right or true which we all have set ways to an
    degree , i would say that many of the reasons stated can be as well true .
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    Here is where i like to venture into we and many of us know our reasons
    and we later express them rooted feeling in threads that touch that mental nerve
    or from holding so much inside ......

    How do we start to solved or try to seek an solution for it ??

    Do we need help or can we help ourselves control these angers ??

    How do you get another person to change there mindset to give an
    open view of another or a chance to understand the next view ??

    let really talk about anger against one another as people
    why we dislike our own brothers and sisters , when we learn
    to discuss that we will find lots of problems that lead to these
    attacks , i may be wrong or hated upon but EGO'S play a role
    a big one too men seem to display it more then women do
    brothers hate to be told or wrong and want there view heard or to be right
    this how it starts when we disagree with the next until we bash them
    to get a point across this behavior increasinly getting worse bitter blood

    where do we start to heal at and get an over view understanding for this anger?

    but i agree with some of the things stated in the link........ JMO
     
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    Anger is stressful and stress is deadly. All by itself, constant anger/stress causes distorted thinking, illnesses and leads to dysfunctional relationships with loved ones and others.

    I think that one of the best things AAs could do for themselves on a personal level is to make a decision to rid themselves of anger because it’s a part of the multi-generational programming that most often leads to self-destruction. If anger among AAs was a positive force, we would have “overcome” by now because an overwhelming number of AAs are angry. That alone tells me that anger, by itself, doesn’t generate anything but negative statistics.

    Maybe some of the angriest people on this site are actually coming together to develop strategies for re-building our communities. Or maybe, some are using their anger to come up with ways to build alone. If not, IMO, the anger is a cop out or perhaps just a way to bond with other angry people.
     
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    bonding with more angry people is a time bomb

    Where do we as people start to reverse this anger problem
    or what steps to take to change ourselves ??

    Most things work well on a Negative and positive stance
    they click well i think anger should mix with other means of good
    to de-fuse it or balance out i agree anger is stress which can be
    harmful to any humankind

    where do we look to stop this , sometime one can't see themselves
    going too far or became too deep into the mist of heated things .
     
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    the issue is not anger, per se, but the misdirection of that anger.
    a black person who is conscious and aware and living under white dominance should be angry.
    the key is to accept, control and direct your anger so that it works for you and not against you.
     
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    the problem is not anger but ignorance. blacks who take their anger out on each other are programmed and dont overstand, they look at other blacks as the problem.

    fill your head with knowledge and anger becomes a valuble weapon rather than a hinderance.
     
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