Black Spirituality Religion : Mud and pot are taken as simile for God and world during creation process

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Mud and pot are taken as simile for God and world during creation process

92) Mrudghatapakshayoranyonyaparihaaso jalaanayane .

(The two parties supporting the mud and pot mock each other in the context of bringing water).

The mud and pot are taken as simile for God and world during creation process. The party supporting the existence of separate pot is mocked by the other party since the first party is unable to bring the water with the pot from which the mud is withdrawn by the second party. The reverse mocking also takes place because the second party which believes in the only existence of the mud also cannot bring water with the help of the lump of mud.

93) Agnitaapakanabandhashakterajnaanaat haasyau .

(Both the parties should be mocked since both are ignorant about the binding energy that is introduced into the lump of mud while the pot is heated and the binding energy is responsible to bring water).

Both the parties are not aware of one scientific point here. In the lump of mud the bond energy binding the mud particles is absent. It is introduced in to the pot, when the pot is heated in fire. The bond energy binding the mud particles in a specific design is responsible for bringing the water. This important point is not noticed by both the parties of ancient logic and the fight between them is to be mocked.

94) Kaaranakaaryaakarshane paraparaajayah .

(If you drag the binding energy towards cause, the effect fails. If you drag the binding energy to effect, the cause fails).


If the binding energy is also taken as cause, the first party fails to bring water with the imaginary design of pot alone. If the binding energy is taken as the effect, which is separate from the lump of mud, the second party fails to bring water with the lump of mud.

95) Uhyaanuhyabandhaabhaavaat na paryaaptam .

(The simile is not complete in all aspects because the God is unimaginable and the world is imaginable. Moreover, the third factor, binding energy, does not apply to God).

You are comparing the mud and pot to God and world in the process of creation. The simile is just correct in one aspect only, which is that the pot is produced from the mud. Apart from this aspect the simile is not capable in explaining the process of generation, which is unimaginable. The mud and pot are imaginable items and hence the process of generation is also imaginable. But here, God is unimaginable and the world is imaginable. The process of generation between unimaginable and imaginable items must be unimaginable because only a process of generation between two imaginable items can be imaginable. In the simile, the binding energy is a third factor, which does not exist in the case of God and world. The world is produced from the God without any association of another factor.
 

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The work becomes different from energy due to the association of instrument

The work becomes different from energy due to the association of instrument

89) Dvaitamupakaranavashaat bhinnam tayoravyaktam .

(The work becomes different from energy due to the association of instrument. The work differs from notable energy and notable instrument by being unnoticed).
The above two versions are contradicting to each other. One says that energy and work are one and the same. The other says that energy and work are different. The conclusion of this contradiction must be given. We say that the work is basically the energy but it becomes different due to the association of instrument. The notable energy becomes un-notable work due to the association of instrument and hence the work can be neither identified as the notable work or notable instrument. The process of walking is work. It is different form the instrumental legs and also the causal energy. We can notice only energy and legs and the work, which is different from these two, cannot be noticed. The inert heat energy can be noticed by thermometer directly and the instrumental legs are directly noticed by the two eyes. But the process of walking as invisible work cannot be noticed directly.



The work is un-notable, it is not taken as entity
90) Astitu na kaarakamagrahanaat .

(Since the work is un-notable, it is not taken as entity, but the work exists).


Since the work is not noticed, being different from the notable energy and notable instrument, we say that the work is not the entity. The entity is always easily noted. However, this does not mean that we say that the work is non-existent. The work certainly exists, though it is not treated as notable entity.

The awareness is the work

91) Asti shakteravyaktakriyaa chit nadimandalamupakaranam.

(The awareness certainly exists as invisible form of inert energy. Here the instrument is nervous system).

The awareness is the work and the entity is the inert energy produced by the oxidation of food. The nervous system is the instrument. From the above analysis, the awareness exists, but being un-noticed, it is of secondary importance and does not have the primary importance of entity. Awareness as work is quite different from the inert energy as well as the nervous system. It is the invisible form of inert energy due to proportionate conversion and certainly is having existence.
 

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The work must be different from inert energy

The work must be different from inert energy
86) Na jadashaktireva kriyaabhaavaapatteh .

(We should not say that the work is simply the inert energy. If so, the new word, work, should not arise at all).

We can say that work is a form of inert energy. But we should not say that there is no difference between inert energy and work. If there is no difference between inert energy and work, what is the necessity of generation of a new word, work? The work must be different from inert energy and therefore a new word, work, is created. If you say that there is no difference between inert energy and work, there should be no work at all except the inert energy.

87) Ekatve na padadvayam na cha pruthagbhaavah .

(If both are one, there should be no two words and both should not have separate existence).

If work and energy are only one entity, there is no need of the generation of two separate words like work and energy. If both are one and the same, as soon as energy is produced the corresponding work also must have been generated simultaneously. There should not be two subsequent stages of energy and work.

The consumption of energy and generation of work take place proportionately

88) Samapramaanavyayajananaat vinopakaranam tayoh .

(The consumption of energy and generation of work take place

proportionately in equal quanta. The instrument is not involved in conversion since it is not consumed at all in generating the work).

If both energy and work are different from each other, for the generation of every quantum of work there should not be corresponding disappearance of one quantum of energy in the body. For example, if one calorie of energy disappears, you have walked one mile. If you have walked two miles, two calories of energy disappear correspondingly. This means, only the energy is converted into work and not any other item like the instrument used in the work. By walking two miles the instrumental legs have not disappeared partially by two quanta like two calories. Hence, the instrument is not involved in the conversion in to work. Therefore, work is only another form of energy.
 

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The illusion of the relative plane is only for us and not for God

The illusion of the relative plane is only for us and not for God

84) Bhraantaa vayam na sah paramaarthaanubhavaabhaavaat .

(The illusion of the relative plane is only for us and not for God, due to lack of practical experience of the absolute of plane for us at any time).

The human incarnation is always in the absolute plane and the relative plane never exists for Him because the illusion causing the existence of relative plane is never for God. Hence, there is no point of the existence of relative plane in the view of God at any time. Only we, the ordinary souls are affected by the illusion and experience the existence of the relative plane. Since we can only imagine about the absolute plane and can never practically experience it in reality, we will not believe the existence of absolute plane even in the view of human incarnation. Since, our practical experience is always confined to the relative plane, we also try to imagine the relative plane only even for the human incarnation. Hence, the basic reason for us not to believe the existence of absolute plane for human incarnation is the lack of practical experience for us regarding the absolute plane at any time.

Even scholars can never cross the fundamental illusion of primordial energy

85) Mulabhramaakaashaannaatitaah panditaa api .

(Even the scholars can never cross the fundamental illusion created in the case of primordial energy, which is the space).

Even the scholars and scientists cannot cross the original illusion created in the space or Mula Maya. No body can cross the spatial dimensions and imagine anything beyond the space. The space or primordial energy is realized as work but its worker being existing separately other than the space (or beyond the space) could not be imagined by any scientist or scholar. The worker of primordial energy (work), God, can never even be realized and experiencing Him is absolutely impossible. A scientist or scholar can cross Maya and Maha Maya through realization of the worker, though crossing Maya and Maha Maya cannot be experienced. You can cross Maya and Maha Maya in realization at least, though not in experience. But you cannot cross Mula Maya in realization as well as in experience because the worker of Mula Maya (God) is not even realized. When some thing is not realized there is no point of experiencing that. Experience is a subsequent of realization.
 

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Our view can never practically becomes God’s view

Our view can never practically becomes God’s view

82) Tasyadruguchyate na gamyate rajamahishivat .

(God’s view is only explained by us and not practically attained similar to the aspect of king to queen).

Our view regarding us and the rest of world cannot exist in the absolute plane. We can just imagine the position of the absolute plane but we cannot have the practical existence in the absolute plane. When we talk about the absolute plane, it does not mean that we have actually reached the absolute plane. We are only imagining the position of absolute plane, which is practically impossible to attain for us. We can say that world is unreal in God’s view. This does not mean that our view becomes practically God’s view and that the world becomes unreal for us. If you say that the king can shout at the queen, it does not mean that you can shout at the queen.

Once the absolute plane is mentioned, the relative plane does not exist

83) Manushyopaadhauvapi na dashaadvayavirodhah .

(Even in the case of human incarnation of God, the two planes do not co-exist to contradict each other).

When God enters the medium of a human form, such human incarnation is an ordinary human being externally but is God internally. If you cannot recognize Him internally, you will speak relative plane only regarding the world in His view. If you recognize Him as God internally, you will speak the absolute plane regarding the world in His view. Once the absolute plane is mentioned, the relative plane does not exist. If you are not recognizing Him as God, even though He is in absolute plane, you will misunderstand Him in the relative plane only. Hence, even in His case, the two planes do not co-exist and contradict each other. If you have realized Him as God, there is no relative plane in His view since the relative plane cannot co-exist with the absolute plane. If you have not realized Him as God due to your ignorance based on ego and jealousy, even then, actually the absolute plane alone is existing in His view and not the relative plane. Any way, in your ignorance also, only the relative plane is existing as per your view regarding the world in His view and thus here also, there are no two planes.
 

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