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Scientists have established the existence of permanently unimaginable God

Scientists have established the existence of permanently unimaginable God

You have two regions of unimaginable nature. One is the temporarily unimaginable region containing the deeper planes of world within the limits of the space and these are surely going to be analyzed in future by scientists. The other is the permanently unimaginable region, which exhibits the permanently unimaginable limits of space or God. Hence, scientists have established the existence of permanently unimaginable God. The unimaginable nature is the reason for wonder. Maya means wonder by its root word. Hence, we have temporary and permanent regions of Maya. Even the magic show, which creates wonder, is called as Maya, which is temporary since you can analyze it and know it after some time. But the miracle performed by the human form of the Lord can never be analyzed which is not magic and such divine miracle is a permanent Maya indicating the permanently unimaginable God in the human form. Therefore, the miracle of human incarnation and the unimaginable limits of space are one and the same in establishing the permanently unimaginable and hence permanently wonderful God.

Since there cannot be existence of two unimaginable items, there is no place for Maya and God together since both are permanently unimaginable. There can be several temporary unimaginable items in the world just like two items of a magic show. On realization the two items of the magic show give different imaginable technologies of performance of magic. But the realization of various permanently unimaginable miracles indicates only one unimaginable God. Therefore, in all the permanently unimaginable miracles, there is only one God as the basis, who is permanently unimaginable.

Maya needs a medium of imaginable nature to exhibit its unimaginable nature. The unimaginable limits of the Universe are exhibited by the imaginable Universe, which is composed by imaginable items. Similarly, the unimaginable God is exhibited by the imaginable human body, which performs the unimaginable miracles through imaginable actions and imaginable items.

For example, when the human incarnation moves its hand and produces sacred ash, the human form, hand, movement of hand and the final ash are imaginable items. With the help of these imaginable items, the generation of ash from space is exhibited as the permanently unimaginable miracle. Even the temporary Maya needs imaginable items in the magic show for exhibition.
 
Unimaginable God and imaginable human form

Unimaginable God and imaginable human form

The unimaginable God needs the imaginable human form as a medium for expressing Himself to His devotees. In the case of human incarnation of God also, you have only understood the existence of the unimaginable God and you have not imagined the nature of God as in the case of the limits of the Universe. You have only seen that the limits of space are beyond the sight and this does not mean that you have seen the limits of space. In all these examples, Maya (Unimaginable item) exists in the imaginable items to give a proof for its existence just like the unperceivable electricity exists in the perceivable metallic wire to give experience of its existence. The wire with electricity can be treated as the electricity itself and there is no other way than this to perceive the electricity. The electricity has to be treated as the wire containing electricity. But every wire is not electricity.

Therefore, the unimaginable Maya has to be treated as the imaginable world, which shows the unimaginable limits. This does not mean that every imaginable item in the world with definite limits is Maya. Therefore, this world can be treated as Maya (Mayamtu Prakrutim….Gita). Here the word Prakruti stands for the world with unimaginable limits and it does not stand for any imaginable item in the world with definite limits. Similarly, the person charged by God (human incarnation) can be treated as God but not every person. The world with unimaginable limits and human incarnation with unimaginable miracles can be treated as God (Viswam Vishnuh.., Vasudevah Sarvamiti…..) and this does not mean that the world or the human body of human incarnation itself is God (Avyaktam Vyaktimapannam…Gita).
 
Whether God and soul has same awareness?

Whether God and soul has same awareness?

Question: We can say that the awareness in the living beings and the awareness of God are one and the same in quality but since both differ in the intensity of the power, their products are physical world and imaginary world respectively. If you analyze the physical world, it is the inert energy and if you analyze the imaginary world, it is also the same inert energy. Since the potencies of both the inert energies differ to a greater extent, the physical world is clearly materialized and the imaginary world is a very weakly materialized one. Therefore, we say that the physical world and the imaginary world are qualitatively the same inert energy differing in potencies. Hence, their causes i.e. God and soul are also the same awareness with different potencies. Therefore, the soul is qualitatively God since the material in both is awareness only. Therefore, God and soul are qualitatively one though differ in quantitative potencies.

Answer: When you say the awareness of God, is it the same awareness existing in the living beings or some special awareness? It is not the question of difference in potencies of the same qualitative awareness. It is the question of the generation of special awareness of God before the creation of the physical world, when space was not existing. In the absence of space, there cannot be existence of matter and inert energy. In the absence of matter, there cannot be nervous system, digestive system and respiratory system. In the absence of inert energy, there cannot be generation of awareness because the awareness in the living beings is a specific work form of inert energy only. Therefore, the awareness of God must be also qualitatively different from this awareness existing in living beings. If both are qualitatively same, the equipment of generation must be common though the magnitude of capacity of generation differs.

In a small power station electricity with lesser potency is generated. In a big power station electricity with higher potency is generated. In both these cases your concept of small potency and large potency is meaningful. But in the case of the special awareness of God, the equipment is completely absent and there is no power station of even atomic size due to the absence of space before the creation of the physical world. It is said that the first item of the creation of the world is space. Before the creation of the space, there is no trace of possibility of the equipment that generates the awareness. The space itself is the subtle inert energy that was produced for the first time. Before the creation of this space, there was no chance of existence of even a trace of inert energy that can be transformed into awareness. Therefore, the production of awareness and the awareness itself in the case of God are unimaginable.

How can you talk of qualitative similarity between the unimaginable awareness and imaginable awareness? You can talk about the qualitative similarity and quantitative difference in the case of two imaginable items of awareness only. Hence, your argument is disposed in toto without costs.

The confusion in your argument lies in selecting the imaginary world and physical world as two different items to be compared. In fact, the imaginary world and its cause (soul) are a part of the physical world only. When you mention the physical world, it includes the soul and its imaginary world also in it. The cause of the physical world (God) is never touched in your topic because all the dance of your logic is limited to the physical world only. You have not gone out of the physical world and touched its cause (God). This is the basic defect of your misconceived Advaita philosophy.
 
Dream of soul Vs Dream of God

Dream of soul Vs Dream of God

You cannot say that the dream or imaginary world of the awareness can be compared to God and physical world. It is certainly a comparison, which also is limited to few aspects only. For example the dream or imaginary world is a modification of the awareness and the quantity of awareness is decreased by such modification. After serious imagination or dream, the amount of awareness is decreased and the human being gets the indication by becoming weak. After taking food, again the awareness is generated and weakness disappears. If you apply this aspect to God, God also must decrease in His quantity by creating the world through modification. Therefore, you can take the simile in certain limited aspects only and cannot extend to all aspects.

You can say that God creates this world, controls it and finally dissolves it just like the soul is creating, controlling and destroying the imaginary world or dream. You should not project this concept of modification into the case of God creating world from simile, which is the case of creation of imaginary world or dream by soul or awareness. After all, awareness is nervous energy, which is imaginable item. If you insist on the existence of special awareness, which does not need food etc., it means you have taken the help of the unimaginable component in the case of special awareness.

Instead of stating that awareness creates this world or wishes by its unimaginable power, you can straightly say that the unimaginable power or God wishes or creates this world. When the physical world and imaginary world are quite different, how can you say that the source for both is the same awareness seen in the living beings? If this awareness existing in human beings is the cause for both the physical world and the imaginary world, why the same awareness in any living being is unable to create even an atom of the physical world? Hence, you should distinguish the awareness in the living beings from the awareness of God.
 
Awareness is dependent hence is not God

Awareness is dependent hence is not God

Whenever you utter the word ‘awareness’, it means only awareness existing in living beings. Apart from this awareness, no other special awareness can be seen. The Advaita philosophers specifically say that the awareness in the living beings is God. In such case the awareness in living beings requires the existence of food, oxygen and nervous system. These are the products of matter. The inert energy generated by the oxidation of food generates inert energy that enters the nervous system and the specific work form of inert energy in the specific nervous system is called as awareness.

This awareness is generated and hence has birth. This awareness disappears in deep sleep, when the nervous system takes rest. If this awareness is God, God must have birth, death, pre-existence of food, oxygen and nervous system. The incapability of creation of this physical world by the awareness is reinforced by such defects.
 

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