Pan Africanism : mixed afrikan races

Discussion in 'Black History - Culture - Panafricanism' started by Therious, Apr 20, 2005.

  1. Therious

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    I read much about different "ethnicities" on the continent of afrika. Many point out the apearance of ethiopians, vs. west afrikans, vs, s. afrikans, vs somalies ect. most ethipians and such look to me like nothing more than blk/white-asian mixed. they look like light skinned aa's that speak a different language. Then is the arguement of "northern" afrikans simply a future glance of interracial breeding? were these people evolved ? if so then should west afrikans who have been in north afrika 4 centuries be growing longer noses, and lighter skin?.
     
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    Arabs predominate in North Africa, not Africans.

    Although they may share a very mixed history with the Arabian peninsula, Habesha's ( Ethiopians/Eritreans ) and Somalians are indiginous African people. I also think the differences between Ethiopians/Somalians and other Africans is exagerrated, they are a part of the Black African family. You can google Ethiopian/Somali history as well as 'Somali Bantu' to learn more about the Horn of Afrika region.
     
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    by indigeneous you mean they were always there? was not the land not belonging to traditional featured black afrikans before a long series of wars and natural disasters? i will not generalize but do some consider themselves non-black or anti black? we know the arabs are foreing invaders so are these the mixed off spring?

    thank u for the link
     
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    Habesha and Somali people are indiginous to the African continent. By this I mean you could always tell the Arabs in North Africa 'go back to the Arabian peninsula', White people, 'go back to Europe' and Indians/South Asians 'go back to India, or whatever South Asian country you immigrated from', they can trace their roots and cultures back to those places but Habesha and Somali people have nowhere to go outside of Ethiopia/Eritrea/Somalia/Djibouti, they have Arab ancestry and a long history with the Arabian peninsula but they are not Arabs or of (primarily) Arab descent. Some mistaken and confused ones may not identify themselves with the rest of Black Africa or as African or Black( they are), but they're not and I don't think you'll find any who consider themselves , Arabs, maybe a people unto themselves distinct from the Arab world and the rest of Black Africa, but not just Arabs. Arabs speak Arabic. Somali, Tigryna, Amharic etc. are indiginous to the African continent. As far as I know, Somali's displaced the Galla in Somalia who pushed down south the indiginous Bantu speaking Africans, but Ethiopians ( except for their Arab ancestors ) didn't come or migrate from anywhere else outside of Ethiopia.

    'Adoon' is a deragatory Somali word for bantu speaking Africans which means 'slave', and slavery and genocide are a part of the Bantu Somali plight, like Rwanda's 1994 Hutu/Tutsi genocide or Nigeria's 1967-1970 Biafran civil war, the hateful individuals responsible need to be castrated, tortured and murdered, but as for the different groups or 'tribes' , they're both Africans. Since Habesha and Somali people are indiginous Africans, you can't talk about African unity or the Black African family, whether they deny being Black Africans or not, and not include them. Just like many American and Caribbean Black people as well as Black Latino's deny being of African descent or the same race as Africans, you can't talk about pan-African unity without including all people of African descent.
     
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    A little known fact is...

    Most Ethiopians and Somalis are a mixture of the ancient Hebrews who migrated down into East Africa over 2000 years ago and the indeginous black Africans who were already in the region.

    That's why Ethiopians speek a form of ancient Hebrew known as Geez and it's also the reason why the Ark of the Covenant is located down there.

    Somalis and Sudanese also have a lot of Arab ancestry.
     
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    EXACTLY THEY ARE NOT INDEGINEOUS AFRIKANS.IVE NEVER BEEN TO THAT REGION SO I CANT SPEAK ON THE LIGHTER ETIOPIANS OR SOM,ALIS ATTITUDES TOWARDS BLACK PEOPLE.
     
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    Maybe true but +2000 years

    Using this logic and going back far enough the Aborigines in Australia are not indegineous, or the American Indian. Using 60 as an average life span this would be over 33 generations, using 45 which would be closer its over 44 generations. The Hebrews if I remember correctly are the tribe of dan or the lost tribe, so more like +3000 years ago. Memory could be bad, but you get the idea. At some point the number of years start to count.
     
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    The Hebrews I was speaking of who migrated down to Egypt were the ones who left around 500 B.C. to escape captivity from the Babylonian Chaldeans who destroyed their temple.

    You can read about them in the Bible in the last chapters of 2nd Kings.

    They first went to Egypt, and then kept going down the East African coast settling in the Horn and other regions.
     
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    What do you mean exactly? What has anyone said in this forum that 'proved' Ethiopians/Somalians werent indiginous Africans? Where else do they come from? Are the White/of European descent? Are they Arabs? Indians?What? Ethiopians/Eritreans/Somalians are indiginous African people.

    I never heard about Ethiopians having Hebrew ancestry either. All I know for certain is none of you can kick Ethiopians/Eritreans/Somalians out of the Black African family.
     
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    looking at there skin tone you should know that they are mixed. compare an ethiopian to a mixed american, not much difference. exactly points to the words in the post that i quoted. read it thouroghly.
     
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