Black People : Military man over CIA & CIA man over the Military/ A Neocon's dream come True

Ankhur

Well-Known Member
REGISTERED MEMBER
Oct 4, 2009
14,325
2,954
Brooklyn
Occupation
owner of various real estate concerns
Leon Panetta, the man that champoined the use of drones, is now head of the military and Gen Petraeus is now head of the CIA

you can't make this stuff up!

Published on Thursday, April 28, 2011 by Salon.com
A More Militarized CIA for a More Militarized America
by Glenn Greenwald
The first four Directors of the CIA (from 1947-1953) were military officers, but since then, there has been a tradition (generally though imperfectly observed) of keeping the agency under civilian rather than military leadership. That's why George Bush's 2006 nomination of Gen. Michael Hayden to the CIA provoked so many objections from Democrats (and even some Republicans).

The Hayden nomination triggered this comment from the current Democratic Chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Dianne Feinstein: "You can't have the military control most of the major aspects of intelligence. The CIA is a civilian agency and is meant to be a civilian agency." The then-top Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, Jane Harman, said "she hears concerns from civilian CIA professionals about whether the Defense Department is taking over intelligence operations" and "shares those concerns." On Meet the Press, Nancy Pelosi cited tensions between the DoD and the CIA and said: "I don't see how you have a four-star general heading up the CIA." Then-Sen. Joe Biden worried that the CIA, with a General in charge, will "just be gobbled up by the Defense Department." Even the current GOP Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Pete Hoekstra, voiced the same concern about Hayden: "We should not have a military person leading a civilian agency at this time."


http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/04/28-9
 

Ankhur

Well-Known Member
REGISTERED MEMBER
Oct 4, 2009
14,325
2,954
Brooklyn
Occupation
owner of various real estate concerns
Published on Thursday, April 28, 2011 by CommonDreams.org
Petraeus to CIA? Disaster Looms
by Ray McGovern

The news that President Barack Obama will announce the nomination of Gen. David Petraeus to be director of the CIA raises questions that are as obvious as they are serious.

Doesn’t the President want a CIA director who will give him the straight scoop on key issues like the war in Afghanistan? Then why would he give the job to a general with huge incentive to gild the lily regarding the “progress” made under his command?

And not only that. Petraeus has looked on CIA analysts as gnats to be swatted away before they bite. That is why he relegated them to straphanger status during the key decision making process in late 2009 on what to do about Afghanistan.

He told the President that he and his generals had it all figured out and that 33,000 additional troops would do the trick. Pesky intelligence analysts were marginalized, despite longstanding procedures making a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) de rigueur before major presidential decisions like those on major escalation in war.

Remarkably, no NIE was prepared before the President’s decision in late 2009. To his credit, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, who became Director of National Intelligence in August 2010, insisted that two NIEs be prepared last fall — one on Afghanistan, and one on Pakistan. The one on Afghanistan concluded that the U.S. could not prevail without a firm decision by Pakistan to interdict the Taliban along the border with Afghanistan. The one on Pakistan said, in the vernacular, there is not a snowball’s chance in hell that the Pakistanis would make such a decision. Ergo?


http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/04/28-13
 

Gorilla

Well-Known Member
REGISTERED MEMBER
Jan 31, 2009
2,450
1,372
Greenwald usually nails it. The big three intelligence agencies are getting increasingly militarized. This won't end up being a good thing.
 

Ankhur

Well-Known Member
REGISTERED MEMBER
Oct 4, 2009
14,325
2,954
Brooklyn
Occupation
owner of various real estate concerns
Greenwald usually nails it. The big three intelligence agencies are getting increasingly militarized. This won't end up being a good thing.

I dont' want to thank you becuase, if you had disagreed, I would have followed your lead on this one.

This stuff is so maniacaly sick, that I do't want to believe it.

But the sick joke is, that at the level of president, the democrats have paved the way clear for, the next republican to raise hell

and we as the Black community here or elswhere , usualy are the ones to get dumped on.

When Clinton detroyed Glass Stegall andinitiated GATT & NAFTA,
it paved the way for Bush and his coporate cronies to loot the public
and crash the economy

Now Obama has done this, as well as staying quiet about the privatization schemes in several states, and the union bashing, that is hurting his costituency,
allowing both to go into legislature,
he paves the way for the next GOP POTUS,
to initiate a very real text book version of fascism,
in this nation.
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
Kemetstry Law Forum : FORMER AND CURRENT MILITARY: DO SOLDIERS IN COMBAT GET QUALIFIED IMMUNITY? Law Forum - Prisons - Gun Ownership 1
Clyde C Coger Jr Black People Politics : Top US general says military will not escort Donald Trump from the White House if election disputed Black People Politics 0
G Black Travel : Has The Military Escalated Our Defcon Rating To 4 Because Of Kim Jong Un? Black Travel 1
Destee Black People Politics : Trump child support deal required his child not join military or payments stop - but he loves the military, sending our children to war / death Black People Politics 1
Clyde C Coger Jr Africa : Revealed: The U.S. military's 36 code-named operations in Africa All Things Africa 0
Kemetstry African American History Culture : MILITARY SPRAYED CHEMICALS OVER BLACK CITY African American History Culture 0
Ndugu Black People : Unless there is Black unity in the Motherland , Africa may become the nw Military theater Black People Open Forum 1
Mister Aten Black People : Jus’ google US Military Space War Black People Open Forum 1
IFE Premium Members Only : Military Pushes For Same Broad Rules Of Engagement As Civilian Police Forces Premium Members Only 6
IFE Law Forum : Military Pushes For Same Broad Rules Of Engagement As Civilian Police Forces Law Forum - Prisons - Gun Ownership 1
WarningToBlackPeople Black People : Racists in the military attacked me as a recruit, service person, and even now as Veteran. My Story. Black People Open Forum 29
Clyde C Coger Jr Black Positive People : Meet the 20-year-old African-American woman making US Military Academy history Black People Doing Positive Things 0
AACOOLDRE Brother AACOOLDRE : DEFINITION OF GOSPEL (Euaggelion): A Birth or military victory By Andre Austin I first learned of AACOOLDRE 1
Clyde C Coger Jr Black Entertainment : Kellyanne Conway Draws Laughs and Memes With Military-Style Garb Black Entertainment 1
Chevron Dove Chevron Dove : BLACK AFRICAN WOMEN IN THE MILITARY TODAY Chevron Dove 0
Damaris Sheldon Black Positive People : How About Our Military Vets? Black People Doing Positive Things 2
Fine1952 Black People : Martial Law on the Horizon? U.N. Military Trucks Arrive in Virginia Black People Open Forum 0
Clyde C Coger Jr Black Positive People : Meet Miss USA: Deshauna Barber Is First Military Service Member to Take Crown Black People Doing Positive Things 0
OldSoul OldSoul : The U.S. Will Increase Its Military Presence in Australia OldSoul 2
serious brother Black People : Military Drafting Strong and Independent Women Black People Open Forum 0
Liberty Africa : China is building its first military base in Africa. America should be very nervous. All Things Africa 17
crwn Black People : AFRICOM’s Secret Empire: US Military Turns Africa Into ‘Laboratory’ Of Modern Warfare Black People Open Forum 0
RAPTOR Black People Politics : Why does the US have 800 military bases around the world? Black People Politics 0
RAPTOR Black People Politics : US Military Aid Supports Anti-Haitian Deportations in the Dominican Republic Black People Politics 0
RAPTOR Black People : The US Carried Out 674 Military Operations in Africa Last Year. Did You Hear About Any of Them? Black People Open Forum 0
AACOOLDRE Brother AACOOLDRE : CaNNIBALISM: The sin of military defeat of Jews AACOOLDRE 0
AACOOLDRE Brother AACOOLDRE : The Military Satire in the Gospels AACOOLDRE 0
crwn Nigeria : Why Nigerian military has difficulty getting arms from America — U.S. govt. Nigeria 0
RAPTOR The Police : Armed w/ Military-Grade Weapons, Missouri Police Crack Down on Protests over Michael Brown Shooting Law Forum - Prisons - Gun Ownership 1
dunwiddat Black People Politics : Are These Guidelines by US Military Racially Biased Black People Politics 9
RAPTOR Black People Politics : "A Silent Coup": Jeremy Scahill & Bob Herbert on Corporate, Military Interests Shaping Obama’s SOTU Black People Politics 0
RAPTOR Black People Politics : Congress triples Obama's request on military aid to Israel Black People Politics 0
Alarm Clock Black People Politics : The Terror Diaspora: The U.S. Military and Obama’s Scramble for Africa Black People Politics 1
Alarm Clock Central African Republic : Who is Behind the Military Coup in Bangui? Pro French Central African Republic Coup Leaders Scrap Ch Central African Republic (CAR) 0
MsInterpret Black People : Black Women Key to Easing Military Suicide? Black People Open Forum 5
MsInterpret Black People Politics : Military suicides approach record high Black People Politics 5
Clyde C Coger Jr Black People Politics : No prank: On Halloween, US military forces train for zombie apocalypse Black People Politics 13
mamodu29 Algeria : U.S PRESSES ALGERIA TO SUPORT MILITARY STRIKE ON POOR MALI Algeria 60
Shikamaru Black Money Business Jobs : Do study military science, military history, warfare, and aggression Black Money Business Jobs 24
jamesfrmphilly Black People Politics : should black people serve in the military? Black People Politics 153
Destee Black People Politics : Who Has Beat America In A Military Action - War - That Kind Of Thing? Black People Politics 32
Chevron Dove Black People Politics : S. Korea, Us Begin Military Exercise & Outrages N. Korea Black People Politics 2
Ankhur Black People : Under the New Law , Dr King Would have been Placed in Military Detention without Trial Black People Open Forum 1
Ankhur Black People : Youth and Parents Please read this before thinking about Enlisting into Military Black People Open Forum 1
Writeous1 Black People : WikiLeaks Cable Details U.S. Military Killing of Iraqi Family Black People Open Forum 0
Ankhur Black People : Will Ivory Coast be next? in military quest for Global Hegemony? Black People Open Forum 3
Ankhur Nigeria : Nigeria says Military Focus should be on Gbagbo instead of Gaddafi Nigeria 2
Ankhur Black People : Bush Era Torture Expert, Appointed to Mental Asssitance for Military Families (???) Black People Open Forum 1
Amnat77 Black People : U.S. Military Launches Spy Operation Using Fake Online Identities Black People Open Forum 0
Amnat77 Libya : U.N. okays military action on Libya Libya 76
Similar threads


















































Latest profile posts

sekou kasimu wrote on ZIbijah's profile.
Have you read "The Iceman Inheritance: Origins of Western Man's Racism, Sexism, and Aggression"?
$1 Billion Black dollars in 30 days
Destee wrote on Marcchris's profile.
Hi @Marcchris ... Welcome Welcome Welcome!!! :wave: ... Thanks for joining us AND becoming a Premium Member! :cheerleader: ... I am honored. Please make yourself right at home! Much Love and Peace.
Destee wrote on rhymebad's profile.
I Love You! :love:
Destee wrote on dunwiddat's profile.
Good to see you Sister! :cheerleader:
Top