Black People : Military man over CIA & CIA man over the Military/ A Neocon's dream come True

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Leon Panetta, the man that champoined the use of drones, is now head of the military and Gen Petraeus is now head of the CIA

    you can't make this stuff up!

    Published on Thursday, April 28, 2011 by Salon.com
    A More Militarized CIA for a More Militarized America
    by Glenn Greenwald
    The first four Directors of the CIA (from 1947-1953) were military officers, but since then, there has been a tradition (generally though imperfectly observed) of keeping the agency under civilian rather than military leadership. That's why George Bush's 2006 nomination of Gen. Michael Hayden to the CIA provoked so many objections from Democrats (and even some Republicans).

    The Hayden nomination triggered this comment from the current Democratic Chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Dianne Feinstein: "You can't have the military control most of the major aspects of intelligence. The CIA is a civilian agency and is meant to be a civilian agency." The then-top Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, Jane Harman, said "she hears concerns from civilian CIA professionals about whether the Defense Department is taking over intelligence operations" and "shares those concerns." On Meet the Press, Nancy Pelosi cited tensions between the DoD and the CIA and said: "I don't see how you have a four-star general heading up the CIA." Then-Sen. Joe Biden worried that the CIA, with a General in charge, will "just be gobbled up by the Defense Department." Even the current GOP Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Pete Hoekstra, voiced the same concern about Hayden: "We should not have a military person leading a civilian agency at this time."


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    A More Militarized CIA for a More Militarized America

    The first four Directors of the CIA (from 1947-1953) were military officers, but since then, there has been a tradition (generally though imperfectly observed) of keeping the agency under civilian rather than military leadership. That's why...
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  2. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Published on Thursday, April 28, 2011 by CommonDreams.org
    Petraeus to CIA? Disaster Looms
    by Ray McGovern

    The news that President Barack Obama will announce the nomination of Gen. David Petraeus to be director of the CIA raises questions that are as obvious as they are serious.

    Doesn’t the President want a CIA director who will give him the straight scoop on key issues like the war in Afghanistan? Then why would he give the job to a general with huge incentive to gild the lily regarding the “progress” made under his command?

    And not only that. Petraeus has looked on CIA analysts as gnats to be swatted away before they bite. That is why he relegated them to straphanger status during the key decision making process in late 2009 on what to do about Afghanistan.

    He told the President that he and his generals had it all figured out and that 33,000 additional troops would do the trick. Pesky intelligence analysts were marginalized, despite longstanding procedures making a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) de rigueur before major presidential decisions like those on major escalation in war.

    Remarkably, no NIE was prepared before the President’s decision in late 2009. To his credit, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, who became Director of National Intelligence in August 2010, insisted that two NIEs be prepared last fall — one on Afghanistan, and one on Pakistan. The one on Afghanistan concluded that the U.S. could not prevail without a firm decision by Pakistan to interdict the Taliban along the border with Afghanistan. The one on Pakistan said, in the vernacular, there is not a snowball’s chance in hell that the Pakistanis would make such a decision. Ergo?


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    Petraeus: Can He Tell It Straight?

    The news that President Barack Obama has picked Gen. David Petraeus to be CIA director raises troubling questions, including whether the commander most associated with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will tolerate objective analysis of those two...
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    Greenwald usually nails it. The big three intelligence agencies are getting increasingly militarized. This won't end up being a good thing.
     
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    I dont' want to thank you becuase, if you had disagreed, I would have followed your lead on this one.

    This stuff is so maniacaly sick, that I do't want to believe it.

    But the sick joke is, that at the level of president, the democrats have paved the way clear for, the next republican to raise hell

    and we as the Black community here or elswhere , usualy are the ones to get dumped on.

    When Clinton detroyed Glass Stegall andinitiated GATT & NAFTA,
    it paved the way for Bush and his coporate cronies to loot the public
    and crash the economy

    Now Obama has done this, as well as staying quiet about the privatization schemes in several states, and the union bashing, that is hurting his costituency,
    allowing both to go into legislature,
    he paves the way for the next GOP POTUS,
    to initiate a very real text book version of fascism,
    in this nation.
     
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