Black People : Military man over CIA & CIA man over the Military/ A Neocon's dream come True

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Leon Panetta, the man that champoined the use of drones, is now head of the military and Gen Petraeus is now head of the CIA

    you can't make this stuff up!

    Published on Thursday, April 28, 2011 by Salon.com
    A More Militarized CIA for a More Militarized America
    by Glenn Greenwald
    The first four Directors of the CIA (from 1947-1953) were military officers, but since then, there has been a tradition (generally though imperfectly observed) of keeping the agency under civilian rather than military leadership. That's why George Bush's 2006 nomination of Gen. Michael Hayden to the CIA provoked so many objections from Democrats (and even some Republicans).

    The Hayden nomination triggered this comment from the current Democratic Chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Dianne Feinstein: "You can't have the military control most of the major aspects of intelligence. The CIA is a civilian agency and is meant to be a civilian agency." The then-top Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, Jane Harman, said "she hears concerns from civilian CIA professionals about whether the Defense Department is taking over intelligence operations" and "shares those concerns." On Meet the Press, Nancy Pelosi cited tensions between the DoD and the CIA and said: "I don't see how you have a four-star general heading up the CIA." Then-Sen. Joe Biden worried that the CIA, with a General in charge, will "just be gobbled up by the Defense Department." Even the current GOP Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Pete Hoekstra, voiced the same concern about Hayden: "We should not have a military person leading a civilian agency at this time."


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    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Published on Thursday, April 28, 2011 by CommonDreams.org
    Petraeus to CIA? Disaster Looms
    by Ray McGovern

    The news that President Barack Obama will announce the nomination of Gen. David Petraeus to be director of the CIA raises questions that are as obvious as they are serious.

    Doesn’t the President want a CIA director who will give him the straight scoop on key issues like the war in Afghanistan? Then why would he give the job to a general with huge incentive to gild the lily regarding the “progress” made under his command?

    And not only that. Petraeus has looked on CIA analysts as gnats to be swatted away before they bite. That is why he relegated them to straphanger status during the key decision making process in late 2009 on what to do about Afghanistan.

    He told the President that he and his generals had it all figured out and that 33,000 additional troops would do the trick. Pesky intelligence analysts were marginalized, despite longstanding procedures making a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) de rigueur before major presidential decisions like those on major escalation in war.

    Remarkably, no NIE was prepared before the President’s decision in late 2009. To his credit, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, who became Director of National Intelligence in August 2010, insisted that two NIEs be prepared last fall — one on Afghanistan, and one on Pakistan. The one on Afghanistan concluded that the U.S. could not prevail without a firm decision by Pakistan to interdict the Taliban along the border with Afghanistan. The one on Pakistan said, in the vernacular, there is not a snowball’s chance in hell that the Pakistanis would make such a decision. Ergo?


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    Greenwald usually nails it. The big three intelligence agencies are getting increasingly militarized. This won't end up being a good thing.
     
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    I dont' want to thank you becuase, if you had disagreed, I would have followed your lead on this one.

    This stuff is so maniacaly sick, that I do't want to believe it.

    But the sick joke is, that at the level of president, the democrats have paved the way clear for, the next republican to raise hell

    and we as the Black community here or elswhere , usualy are the ones to get dumped on.

    When Clinton detroyed Glass Stegall andinitiated GATT & NAFTA,
    it paved the way for Bush and his coporate cronies to loot the public
    and crash the economy

    Now Obama has done this, as well as staying quiet about the privatization schemes in several states, and the union bashing, that is hurting his costituency,
    allowing both to go into legislature,
    he paves the way for the next GOP POTUS,
    to initiate a very real text book version of fascism,
    in this nation.
     
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    James Clapper says he misspoke, didn't lie about NSA surveillance
    September 18, 2014

    WASHINGTON - James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, said Thursday that he did not lie to them about government surveillance last year when denied the U.S. was collecting data on millions of Americans in a hearing last year.

    "It has been very disappointing to have my integrity questioned because of a mistake," Clapper told government officials and contractors at an intelligence summit in Washington sponsored by two major industry groups.

    Clapper said he misspoke in the Senate hearing last year when he said the U.S. was not collecting Americans' data. But documents leaked by Edward Snowden, a former contractor for the National Security Agency (NSA), later showed that the agency had been gathering and storing phone records for years.​

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/james-clapper-says-he-misspoke-didnt-lie-about-nsa-surveillance



    Yahoo, ACLU press U.S. to disclose secret surveillance orders
    October 19, 2016

    Yahoo Inc (YHOO.O) on Wednesday asked U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to declassify a surveillance order the company had received so it can respond to a Reuters report that it set up a special program last year to scan all Yahoo Mail users' incoming messages.

    Separately, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a motion before the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court asking it to release the Yahoo order and over 20 other significant rulings dating back more than a decade.

    Reuters reported on Oct. 4 that Yahoo had secretly installed custom software to search all of its customers' incoming emails to isolate those containing specific data matching a digital file provided by U.S. intelligence officials. The program ran for a brief period of time in the spring of 2015 before it was discovered by Yahoo's security team and taken down, according to people familiar with the matter.​

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yahoo-nsa-idUSKCN12J2FB



    Yahoo Asks James Clapper to Declassify Surveillance Order
    October 20, 2016

    Yahoo has asked the U.S. Director of National Intelligence to declassify a surveillance order the company received so it can respond to a news report. The report from Reuters indicates that Yahoo set up a special program last year to scan incoming messages to Yahoo Mail users.​

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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/vide...r-to-declassify-surveillance-order/vp-AAja4ND


    This is the same person (James Clapper) that claims Russia is behind the hacked email accounts of the DNC and Podesta

    James Clapper, speaks on behalf of the 17 agencies

    U.S. Says Russia Directed Hacks to Influence Elections
    October 7, 2016

    In a statement from the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., and the Department of Homeland Security, the government said the leaked emails that have appeared on a variety of websites “are intended to interfere with the U.S. election process.”

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/us-formally-accuses-russia-of-stealing-dnc-emails.html

    Now peep the game these jokers are running, notice James Clapper proclaims "intent" in the statement above without an investigation or questioning of the accused.


    Compare with James Comey...


    Comey: No evidence that Clinton acted with 'necessary criminal intent'
    July 7, 2016

    FBI Director James Comey declined to comment on Hillary Clinton's assertion that she did not knowingly send or receive emails marked classified, remarking that the bureau's investigation did not find sufficient evidence to establish that she meant to do so.

    "I don't want to comment on people's public statements," Comey said in response to a question from Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.).

    "We did not find evidence sufficient to establish that she knew she was sending classified information beyond a reasonable doubt to meet the intent standard," Comey explained.​

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    http://www.politico.com/blogs/james...07/james-comey-clinton-criminal-intent-225235
     
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