Black People : Michael Eric Dyson: To The Young & Disillusioned Who Didn't Vote in 2010

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  1. skuderjaymes

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    ..and I thought his writing was irritating.
     
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    His youtube comments are moderated so mine probably won't show up..

    I said:

    "so if a person does not see either side as representing what he or she
    believes to be the a good choice, he or she should just close their eyes and
    choose anyway? You can't just tell folks to vote anyway.. you need to figure
    out why they aren't voting and then speak to those issues that are
    important to them.. you may just find another platform there to address the
    issues that are completely overlooked by the other parties."



    I don't see what that has to do with self-pity.
     
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    Ummmm voting in itself is disillusionment, and delusion. How about lecturing the youth on that one Dyson?
     
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    peace

    I guess he's still mad because Obama played him....
     
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    I'm thinking about writing a book entitled, "Radical Tomism" it's about dudes
    like Dyson with his fitted cap and his soundtrack playing in the background.
    This dude is probably looking in the mirror as he talks. He doesn't have the
    slightest clue about what young black people are concerned about but his
    position as a street-conscious black intellectual demands that he appears to be
    connected to them. That whole spiel about folks dying so we could vote is wrong
    on so many levels.. how many ways can you bend that same bible metaphor?
    they died so we could have the chance to vote.. no.. they were murdered by
    white racists. ​
     
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    So you think that Charles Barron, Dick Gregory,
    Cynthia McKenney,
    Malcolm X, Fannie Lou Hamer, Bobby Seale, Alton Maddox
    and Kwame Ture'
    were/are fools?

    is that what you are saying?

    these folks who not just encouraged us to vote but gave us strategies,
    of voting and democracy, we were too self centered to use?

    that is kinda like the young dude with a week game who gives up on women beucase he gets rejected, his first time on approaching a woman

    instead of learning how to tighten up his game.

    Folks who think voting is stupid for the African community to gain and maintain progress should be prepared for a mature debate on the subject!
     
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    Yeah, that particular kind of diatribe has been a ''stone in my shoe'',
    for sometime. Though I dig dyson (don't always agree with him), it seems
    to only come up when it's time to vote. What about taking control of the
    markets in our communities? The schools? Becoming makers/sellers of
    things and not just consumers? These realities can manifest itself and
    progress in political means over and above mere voting.

    No such thing as permanent allies, only permanent interest. But we
    have to develope financial resources and see to it that those whom
    we put in office know who's buttering their bread.

    The powers that be "groom" potential candidates, no matter if they are dem
    or repub, and offer them as the only options we have. A stacked deck,
    pretty much. So no matter what, "the house" wins. Like it or not, this is the
    game. If we wanna "win", better know how it is truly plaid. Folks sacrificed and
    died trying to inform us of that reality as well. When do we (dyson et al)
    exclaim to that extent?
     
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    i was in C.O.R.E

    i spent my youth registering black people so they could vote. sometimes at some small risk to my person.
    not once then did i ever imagine i would hear some of this nihilistic garbage come out of the mouths of young black people.
    maybe if you have never risked anything you have a different attitude.

    i see that when we won the physical battle, the system of white supremacy went to the mental war.
    young black people have been brainwashed into submission.

    we now have a generation that thinks all the things that are self destructive are cool and those things that will build black people are not cool.
     
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    darn skippy,

    i dont' know or understnd either

    some say Malcolm's plan for us is no good and some old foggy stuff

    and they say the NGuzo Saba is outdated,

    and that black natioanlism will never happen

    and while the oligarchy is destroying the community nationaly we say regionalism East Coast/ West Coast is the ideal, and any attempt for national black unity for anything is a no

    and voting is no good and

    no to this solution

    and no to that

    without creating any solution at all!


    Hey I thought the doggone GOP was the party of No?

    while we sit here and make a party out of it while the community steadily burns, I dont understand it?
     
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