Black Relationships : MGTOW -Are you guys feeling that?

I will disagree in part.

A sizable portion of women use their children as leverage to get back at this ex.
These women will deny the man access to his children while leveraging the court system to extract the most resources possible.

Some men are swearing off American women and going overseas.



I wish we had a tissue box smilie for the tears Brother must be crying ... :crying:

I wish we had one for the tears Sisters must cry raising those babies alone ... :crying:

I guess we need one too for the babies that are obviously not wanted ... :cry:

It can all be avoided by the choices one makes - babies do not come by surprise or accident.

If you're not ready for them do what is necessary to keep them from being created.

Otherwise ... cry after in your beer ... :beer:

Your women overseas mention reminds me of this Eddie Murphy show :



I think he tried overseas, men, marriage, a host of things ... i wonder how much grief it saved him.

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Destee
 
Women are the gatekeepers of sex.
Men are the gatekeepers of relationships.

Having wider attraction queues does not equate to more sex. It may increase the slimmer opportunities to acquire sex that men have in general.

I think it is fortunate that men are finally waking up concerning female nature and society in general.

Courts are in it for revenue. It is a billion dollar industry splitting up families.

Men are becoming aware of all this and more along with taking appropriate protective action.



They are aware now that they must show up in court ... but men have been making babies a long time without any consequence or responsibility.

I too am glad they are aware, it might mean the babies stand a better chance at having all they need including 2 loving parents that want them. With men being more aware, they may not create the children that they can then blame their life unhappiness on ... or ... the women that give birth to the babies that they blame their life unhappiness on.

Good for yall! Do what you need to do to remain happy.

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Destee
 
Shikamaru ... i am surprised at your stance on this, as you are usually encouraging one's own responsibility.

If a man has a baby ... or a woman ... it is their responsibility to deal with the circumstances, whatever they may be.

In this case though, you are sort of crying with the men about the unfair responsibility they must accept.

I have never seen you on this side of an argument.

You're usually a staunch defender of one accepting the responsibility of their own life and choices, no matter how challenging they might be.

Don't let me find out you got a baby's momma you don't know what to do with ... :)

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Destee
 
Male birth control should be coming online very soon. That will assist in prevention of making babies without intent.

There will be better chances of men avoiding oops pregnancies (for entrapment), alimony, child support, as well as additional extracted funds via the enforcement mechanisms of the State.



Yes, they can use that along with their viagra ... :look:

But until then don't act as if men have no control ... they can choose to not engage, or have sex with men as you alluded to before, or some other option that i am not aware of.

For the record though, women have gotten pregnant while on birth control ... so, if you're looking for some utopian viagra driven, no responsibility laden sex environment ... it's not probably gonna happen, even with a pill.

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Destee
 
That is what MGTOW encourages: for a man to place himself first instead of women, the society, corporations, the State, or anyone else.
As a man you, take responsibility for your happiness and your masculinity. You define you, not others define who you are. Realize that your masculinity, your energy, your skills, your resources are most valuable and everyone wants them.... on their terms of course.
In doing this, such a man will also take steps to avoid the traps set out her for men to bind them into the system (which are plenty).

I don't have a dog in the fight as to children out of wedlock. Those guys are and will suffer the consequences for their actions. The State will make you pay.

For those guys who have yet to be caught in the system, they can ensure they never get caught by taking precautions.

I'm not advocating having children without a two parent family, I'm advocating a man be well versed in the risks he takes in doing so in any Anglosphere country.



Okay, thanks for the clarification.

I encourage the same, for men and women.

There are great pitfalls for both, when engaging in activity that creates children that they are not be ready for.

And given this conversation, even greater pitfalls for the children brought into these types of scenarios it seems.

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Destee
 

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