Metu Neter - Vols I - II - III : Metu Neter Book Descussion - Chapter One

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  1. river

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    Here are the questions to facilitate the discussion of chapter one. Again let me remind you that this thread will be dedicated to the first chapter. To avoid confucion and keep the integrity of the structure of thos discuss please do not discuss and other section of the bood in this thread unless you're making a brief mention as it relates to this section.

    Please read the chapter before joining the discussions. It would also be helpful if you jot down your ideas beforehand so everyone will have something to bring to the table thus reducing the occurance of "group think." During the discussion you may change your ideas but first have some ideas to change.

    Your answers should be substantiated by what is in the book. However they can also show your own independent thoughts.

    1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

    2. Can a left brain society develop itself spiritually?

    3. What are the characteristics of religions created by a right brain society?

    4. Does a right brain society need religion based on Amen's definition of the word?

    5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?
     
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    1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

    One important characteristic of religions created by left-brain societies is the separation of the feminine aspect of the Creator. By denying the feminine principle in left-brained culture (i.e. western), it stemmed over into their religious doctrines. As a result, instead of having a dual aspect of the one "God", you only have one, the masculine principle. An example is shown in Christianity, where you have a supreme being (god) who is ALWAYS referred to as a man.

    Another characteristic is the lack of a "cultivation system" within the religion that enhances the moral behavior of a person's being. Western religions are big on sermons and singing hymns, which is good. But hearing sermons and singing hymns will do nothing to correct the behavior of a person who is influenced by his/her emotions. There must be some meditation techniques implemented in that religion that helps to cultivate one's spirit.

    2. Can a left brain society develop itself spiritually?

    There must be a balancement with the "right-brain" in order for this to occur. We currently live in a left-brain society and have been for centuries. A left-brained society segregates, separates and ultimately annihilates. A left-brain society is also one that does not know about creating and maintaining order because it is focused on the "external part of being". It is directed outside of itself for guidance on morality and spirituality. The major religions in left-brained societies rely heavily on holy books, scriptures and holy men (ministers, bishops, popes, Imams, etc.) for guidance. How can a "left-brained" society become spiritual when it's hypocritical acts in the world goes against the moral values it preaches?

    3. What are the characteristics of religions created by a right brain society?

    In right-brained societies, the Supreme Being was always revered as a balancement between male and female. The Supreme Being was seen as two halves of the Divine whole, or the great "God" and great "Goddess". In ancient Kamit, all throughout the temples and sacred writings(eg. Mdw Ntr), you will find the names of Amen and Amenet, which signifies "God and Goddess" as one Divine entity.

    It was widely known that the Great mother and Great father was ONE divine entity. It was the European biasness, chauvanism, and misunderstanding which led to the one God being a "he". God represents both masculine and feminine energy. In the subjective realm, there is "nothingness" or "consciousness aware of being conscious". This divine energy has experience in the objective realm as plants, animals, people, rocks, air, etc.

    The religions of the "right-brained" cultures share in common the relationship to the whole and unification. Intuition and trance was/is used as a means for spiritual guidance instead of relying solely on scriptures and sermons. For example, in Africa, all of our ancestral traditions are rooted in the ritual incorporation of 'Divine Law' and the ritual restoration of 'Divine Balance'. This is the essence of African ancestral religion. All of our cultural expressions reflect this: the nature of our clothing, our names, our languages, the designs of our homes, shrines, temples, villages, our food selections and preparations, observances of taboos, our ceremonies, songs, dances, use of oils, incense, stones, gems, plants, animals, etc.


    4. Does a right brain society need religion based on Amen's definition of the word?

    The word religion is composed of the prefix "re" (again, back) and legion (ligare, legein), which means to "tie back, reconnect, yoke, etc". Just by the prefix "re", there is an implication of unifying people back to something they originally had. Being that one of the functions of the right-brain is unification, there is no need to "tie back" or "reconnect" to something that has been lost. Religions in western societies are efforts made by left-brained cultures to mimic the spirituality of right-brained cultures.

    5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

    By being proficient in trance, it gives one the ability to communicate into the subjective realm with the ancestors. We built rituals and shrines in order to establish communication with them as a means of obtaining direction in our lives. Communicating with our ancestors through trance has helped Africans truly understand the nature of wo/man. They are the living proof that there is life after death. Some cultures have falsely classified our communication with the ancestors as "ancestor worship". For the record, we (Africans) have never worshipped our ancestors. The concept of so-called "ancesor worship" was conceived by westerners and not by Africans.





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    i have been reading and trying to learn how to meditate.
    i do not consider it religious.
    i do not think of myself as being a religious person.

    to me religion means believing in something that you cannot see.

    i expect to see something.
    if i do not then i will have to reject it.
    i am exploring to see if there is a practical energy that will work.
     
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    That's deep. I agree 100%.
     
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    Christianity.

    Not without a prerequisite of understandings that cater mainly to the right side.

    Buddhism, Hinduism, Metu Neter, Ifa, Yoruba.........Most native spiritual systems are right-side substantiated.

    Baded keenly on that definition, not at all. We have to always remember what religion is, where it came from, and who perpetuates it.

    Initiatially (re: prior to having an in-depth knowledge), these things were to be respected, if not equally feared.

    Now, I understand that these things are intrinsic to spiritual development.

    HOTEPET
     
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    Hello Family,

    I'm here at this school and a lady finally showed me how to disable the program that was making it impossible for me to log on and post here. My time will be limited because of my classes and stuff but I'm glad to see y'all working on the Metu Neter here.

    1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

    As Sun of Ra indicates the major characteristic is separation. As Jesus said he did not come to bring peace but a sword of separation. In this separation is a false valuation and judgement of the one thing that is separated from the other--light from darkness, Jews from Gentiles, Christians from everybody else, Whites from everybody else. In a world supposedly created by one God only a small number of things actually have God's approval.

    Samura answerted question 2 succinctly.

    3. The religions of right brain societies I would say are basically designed to prepare the sahu to move towards the spiritual Ba understanding and experience. Unlike in western societies religion in Africa is a starting place--a doorway rather than something to die with.

    4.
    I would have to say that according to Amen's definition of religion and based on what I just said above a right brained society does still need that starting place since people aren't born with a natural inclination to pursue truly spiritual endeavors (denying the desires of the flesh, intuitive learning etc.). As Amen says humans remain in the Sahu stage until around age 28. If there is no means to tie people back until they reach that age much damage can be done to themselves and to society.

    Brother Sam, I feel ya on trance and ancestors. My curiosity is getting the best of my fear which is turning into a healthy resect for the serousness and consequences of these entities. Amen affirms my apprehension in a later chapter when he admonishes readers not to try these things without a teacher. To me a teacher means someone who has been there and done that. At the same time I am eager to attain the understanding and spirutal depth that trannce and ancestor communication bring.
     
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    1. What are some characteristics of religions created by left brain societies?

    According to the book, the left side of our brains appeals to the analytical and logical aspect of our psyche. It helps us operate more on the primal/physical level. In small doses this is good... it helps us concentrate on a problem at hand and tends to help foster technological development. In large doeses, however, it is detrimental because it hinders growth of the right more spiritual side of our brains.

    Thus, religions created left-brained societies are void of individual spirituality. Their vision of God and the astral plane while somewhat 'logical' are rigid and do not take into account the' gray' area of life. They stifle spiritual progress because a person is not allowed to think for themselves. People influenced by a left-brained religion are doomed to be trapped in a delusion unless something phenemonal gets them to see the light.

    2. Can a left brain society develop itself spiritually?

    Yes, if there is an appropriate balance of right-brained thought.

    It is interesting how for most of God's living, animalistic creation the feminine (right-brain) and masculine (left-brain), must unite to continue a species existence. So, if one wants to use nature as the basis of philosophy, then one can surmise that being left-brained is not bad, nor is being right-brained. It's the absence of unity with the opposite half that is the problem.

    However, being solely left-brain shuts off the possibility of accepting right-brained thought. So essentially such a society is closing itself off to learning how it can grow spiritually, since you need the right-brain to maintain healthy spirituality. This is not the case with a solely right-brained society who would be able to consider left-brained thoughts if they felt it would improve their existence.

    3. What are the characteristics of religions created by a right brain society?

    The right brain is responsible for our spiritual side. It helps foster creative thought along with emotional expression. Women, (perhaps because of our responsibility in bearing children), tend to be more right-brained then men. This is why religions in right-brained societies honor women through worship of various goddesses.

    Right-brained religions also encourage individual spirituality. This includes meditation and trance states, where a person can either get more of their own thoughts to solve a problem or even visit the astral realm and get a revelation from an ancestor.

    Right-brained religions also tend to promote harmony with the earth and nature.

    4. Does a right brain society need religion based on Amen's definition of the word?

    No, they don't. Religion is a set of principles established by someone else on how you should express your spirituality. Religion based on right-brained societies encourage individual expression. So what they teach is not their philosophy on how you should live but rather, instructions on how to achieve a deeper level of spirituality. A true right-brain religion would not advocate the message that one MUST do or not do a certain thing to achieve spiritual peace.

    5. What are your initial feelings or conceptions about trance? Ancestors?

    These elements of spirituality are even more important to explore for independent spiritualists stuck in a left-brained culture. They are interesting in that though they are spiritual in nature, they appeal enough to our left-brain 'logical' side that we feel it is real. Like James was saying, it helps you actually see 'something'.

    The downside is that it could be dangerous only because there are evil spirits in the astral plane that want to leech on our energy. Our exposure to these spirits is probably worse due to the fact that we have been poisoned by a left-brained culture.... trance and ancestors are of the devil. And unfortunately, if a beginner tries these things and experiences something bad, they may revert back to the harmful left-brained religions that caused them to be more suspectible to such experiences in the first place. So, if one does embark in this, they should be grounded in their beliefs and realize that just because something bad happens in their spiritual experience doesn't mean their spiritual system, (in this case Kemetician theology) is evil.
     
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    as people do not reach a spiritual maturity until 28 is it wise to marry before then?
    should courtship and procreation be based on the sahu?
     
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    Most people in American culture nowadays are marrying later than that because they want to get their career established.

    Now whether it should be this way... who knows. Culturally it is not likely for many societies because the desire for sex/procreation comes before maturity.
     
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    yes, think about that.
    is that the root of a lot of trouble? it sure was in my life.
    i was out humping before i had a clue. not a clue!
     
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