The Cosmic Journeyman
- Sep 29, 2005
- Creative Industrialist
omowalejabali said:As you stated..."ptah is mentioned briefly"....yet, during tha long period from King Menes until the 18th Dynasty "PTAH" was considered the primary Diety among the "initiated" up until the reign of Hatsheptut and the Temple of Denderah.
This was due largely to the fact that what many now refer to as "Khemetic" or "metu neter" as preceeded by the "Memphite Theology" before a power shift into Thebes, leading the the so-called "Thebean Rescension" in which "Amun-Re" became the principal deity among the PRIESTHOOD which rebelled against Akhenaten who actually had sought to reverse THEIR "reforms". This is why he built temples OUTSITE of the proximity of Thebes.
since you have "noticed that the initiates of nile valley high culture (outside of metu neter) tend to focus on narratives where ptah is the central and principal god; an ra an aspect of this god" then my point needs no further elaboration except to note that what this also means is that the language of "metu neter" is NOT as "universal" as alledged, nor can it be considered THE 'root language' but a derivative of the form which PREDATED it.
This is difficult for 'metu neter' proponents to accept because it calls into question other claims concerning the alledged "sole authority" of Ra Un Nefer Amen himself, and the legitimacy of even the reference of ALL AFRICAN PEOPLE as "khemetic" which is why one one hand, "Khemetic" refers to NILE VALLEY High culture centered at Thebes, while "Nubian" actually refers to an EARLIER "Triad" whose root, again, is based in the Congo Basin.
Furthermore, considering the short period of the THEBAN era, including the brief 19th dynasty, to now hold this as a reference again to ALL AFRICN PEOPLE is not accepted by MOST Continental Africans and for sure not among "Ethiopians", "Cu****es", or "Sudanese" who were at times subjected to "Khemetic" rule but who also had later ruled over "Khemet".
I know some folks have problems with the "B.O.D." as compiled by Budge solely because he was a white man but Budge and Gerald Massey proveided us with some objective data to analyze. For example, in the Introduction, Budge explains the development of the HELIOPOLITAN RECENSION in which he states....."that which was edited by the priests of the College of Anu (the On of the Bible, and the Heliopoils of the Greeks), and which was based upon a series of texts now lost. It is found cut in hieroglyphs upon the walls of the chambers and corridors of the pyramid tombs of certain kings of the Vth and VIth dynasties."
Also...."In the texts of the later kings we find that the priests of Ra were obliged to acknowledge the supremacy of Osiris, whose cult, even under the earliest dynasties, was very general in Upper and Lower Egypt."
Well....in all due respect....most likely these "series of texts now lost" are the same texts that were retained until the Amenist priesthood usurped the throne of Akhenaten and destroyed them!
Certainly, they were retained by the Thebans up until the reign of Akhenaten's father as they were "revised" during the building of the Temple of Denderah, during the reign of Hatshepsut. These texts were originally derived from the Heliopolitan Recension and known as the Theban Recension, which was used from the XVIIIth untill the XXIInd dynasty.
This is to say, prior to the shift in power to Thebes ALL "religious texts" were based upon the Heliopolitan Recension. before they were "revised".
Again, no disrespect, but i would like to be provided with EVIDENCE PREDATING the reign of Akhenaten that states otherwise.
By the way....I noticed another discussion and did not respond in which there was an argument to the effect that the "Lybians" were "white people". I suggest reference to the B.O.D. page 194 which mentions the building of the temple at Karnak. There is a connection here as on page 154 it is stated, concerning the "four great nations of men" that ....
"the Egyptians and the Libyans are said to have sprung from the eye of Ra"