Black People : MESSAGE TO THE MESSENGERS

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  1. soulosophy

    soulosophy Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Profound and powerful words behind this haunting track as the spirits of our Ancestors speak through our Brother Gil Scott-Heron.



    Hey, yeah, we the same brothas from a long time ago
    We was talkin' about television and doin' it on the radio
    What we did was to help our generation realize
    They had to get out there and get busy cause it wasn't gonna be televised
    We got respect for you rappers and the way they be free-weighin'
    But if you're gon' be teachin' folks things, make sure you know what you're sayin'
    Older folks in our neighborhood got plenty of know-how
    Remember if it wasn't for them, you wouldn't be out here now
    And I ain't comin' at you with no disrespect
    All I'm sayin' is that you **** well got to be correct
    Because if you're gonna be speakin' for a whole generation
    And you know enough to try and handle their education
    Make sure you know the real deal about past situations
    It ain't just repeatin' what you heard on the local TV stations
    ...Sometimes they tell lies and put 'em in a truthful disguise
    But the truth is that's why we said it wouldn't be televised
    They don't know what to say to our young folks, but they know that you do
    And if they really knew the truth...why would they tell you?
    The first sign is peace, tell all them gun totin' young brothas
    That the man is glad to see us out there killin' one another
    We raised too much hell when they was shootin' us down
    So they started poisoning our minds tryin' to jerk us all around
    And they tell us they got to come in and control our situation
    They want half of us on dope and the other half in incarceration
    If the ones they want dead ain't killed by what they instigated
    They put some dope on a brotha's body and claim it was drug related
    Tell them drug related means there don't need to be no investigation
    Or at least that's the way they're gon' play it on the local TV stations
    All your 9-millimeter brothas...give them somthin' to think about
    Tell them you heard that this is the new word, they got to work that stuff out
    But somehow they feel in the wrong way with a gun in their hands
    They feel real independent...but they just pullin' contracts for the man
    Five and five will tell you it's hopeless out there on the avenue
    But if they really knew the truth...why would they tell you?
    And if they look at you like you're insane
    And they start callin' you scarecrow and say you ain't got no brain
    Or start tellin' folks that you suddenly gone lame
    Or that white folks had finally co-opted your game
    Or worse yet implying that you don't really know...
    That's the same thing they said about us...a long time ago
    Young rappers, one more suggestion before I get out of your way
    But I appreciate the respect you give me and what you got to say
    I'm sayin' protect your community and spread that respect around
    Tell brothas and sistas they gotta calm that bull**** down
    Cause we're terrorizin' our old folks and brought fear into our homes
    And they ain't got to hang out with the senior citizens
    Just tell them, “Dammit...leave the old folks alone”
    And we know who rippin' off the neighborhood, tell them, “That BS has got to stop!”
    Tell them you're sorry they can't handle it out there
    But they got to take the crime off the block
    And if they look at you like you're insane
    And they start callin' you scarecrow and say you ain't got no brain
    Or start tellin' folks that you suddenly gone lame
    Or that white folks had finally co-opted your game
    Or worse yet saying that you really don't know...
    That's the same thing they said about me a long time ago
    And if they tell folks that you finally lost your nerve
    That's the same thing they said about us, when we said, “Johannesburg”
    But I think the young folks need to know, that things don't go both ways
    You can't talk respect of every other song or just every other day
    What I'm speakin' on now is the raps about the women folks
    On one song she's your African Queen on the next one she's a joke
    And you ain't said no words that I haven't heard, but that ain't no compliment
    It only insults eight people out of ten and questions your intelligence
    Four letter words or four syllable words won't make you important
    It'll only magnify how shallow you are and let everybody know it
    And if they look at you like they think you insane
    Or they call you scarecrow thinkin' you ain't got no brain
    Or start tellin' folks that you suddenly gone lame
    Or that white folks have finally co-opted your game
    Or you really don't know...They said that about me a long time ago
    If they finally start to tell people that you lost your nerve
    That's what they said about Johannesburg
    You ain't insane...you have got a brain
    You haven't gone lame; you have got your game
    Remember...keep the nerve
    Keep the nerve
    Keep the nerve
    Keep the nerve
    ...I'm talkin' about peace
     
  2. jamesfrmphilly

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    word........

    i am a fan of GSH from way back
     
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    Keita Kenyatta going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Now if he could just put that Darn pipe down he could continue to be a bright light instead of letting go up in smoke...but hey, even darkness a light will shine and shine he did.
     
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    Yea I hear that Bro KK, it is a shame especially for one so perceptive and prophetic with such creative complexity. As he says in a 2008 interview about his songs that he tries to “expose people to yesterday so they know where tomorrow is heading.” http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/48003/ As you say even darkness a light will shine...

    Just a thought, what is the difference between someone as prophetic as GSH who hits the cocaine pipe and a Shaman who hits the ayahusca pipe?
     
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    Keita Kenyatta going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Might not be a darn thing....who knows what portals of insight or perception that any chemicals may allow our presently bogged down minds to go to. Funny that you should ask this question, because one of the things I've noticed is that "Our people are so bombarded by oppression and this system of global white supremacy that the wino, the drug addict and the treed out brothers and sisters often speak a reality uninhibited from the soul that their chemicalized state frees them to do. Unfortunately their dependency also takes them out in the end...but if we look at the history of the African man and woman in America we will notice that some of the greatest geniuses had that in common...as if to say; "ok, let me leave this reality for a while so I can do this."
     
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    G.S.H.

    :terrific:


    I loved this message! Thanks for sharing it!

    This piece was so reminiscent for me of Haki Madhubuti and Amiri Baraka.
     
  7. soulosophy

    soulosophy Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    My sentiments exactly. Not to put my business out there, but back in the day of my teens, I use to smoke marijuana. I never really comprehended the nature of the herb and how it could expand my consciousness. It made me look too hard and too deep giving me insights about myself, life and people allowing me to see things as they truly were that I couldn’t handle at the time. I just became very paranoid and extremely self-conscious. It got so heavy that I had to force myself to stop smoking it and I was addicted to it. I found that I had a lot more oobe’s also. If I were to smoke that today…hmmm, but I’ve found other ways to open up my 3rd.

    Indeed! Perhaps they are liberated, in a sense, that allows them to speak their mind beyond analytical clouds of their predicaments as perceived by their conceptual make-up. Who knows, perhaps the world articulates itself through them. Legal or illegal substances like alcohol, marijuana and cocaine removes those blockages that our spiritual maturity allows its expression.

    I wonder whether they seek freedom or to escape, happiness or ecstasy... for even the drunkard is seeking his/her union with the Beloved/Divine. But the true intent seems to get lost in the habitual activity itself and, for some, becomes a soul-less consumption and the Divine is thus forgotten.
     
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    soulosophy Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I meditate on this track at times. Amiri Baraka mos def but Haki Madhubuti I'm afraid I haven't heard of. Will google that. :)
     
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    soulosophy Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    As I say over here Bro JFP, 'gimme a touch on that'! R E S P E C T!
     
  10. Keita Kenyatta

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    Bro. Amiri had me perform for him and his wife at his birthday at Cecils. I did "We From The Motherland" and a few more.
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    WE FROM THE MOTHERLAND

    I wanted to write something that rappers refused to say,
    pen divine knowledge to make hip hoppers start to pray,
    when a force hit me and knocked me to my knees,
    as I reached to grab my papers the pages began to bleed.
    They read:
    Knowledge is the key to open hidden doors,
    deciphering hieroglyphics and biblical metaphors,
    as we prepare for the slaughter of the new world order,
    dropping knowledge like water, take a sip I think you oughta,
    cause the minds been deceived into all it believes
    by fake education, fake integration and mass media communication
    to serve a white nation,
    while we from the motherland perpetrate like the other man.

    Forgetting all we gave as we dig our own graves,
    hip hip hooray for the ole U.S.A.
    You think you got it right, in the night,
    sailing on propaganda from the red, blue and white,
    but you're not alone cause the skull and the bones
    done asked the masonic order to tap all our phones,
    while the illuminati, the new John Gotti ,
    uses DNA replacements for all of us that's not in,
    the illusion,confusion, and intrusion of institutions,
    that offer no solution to the erosion of the constitution...
    stolen from the 10 federated nations,
    slaughtered and replaced by the aryan conglomeration,
    while we from the motherland perpetrate like the other man.

    So go on, take your share,
    of blue contacts and blond hair,
    cause at the end of the road,
    the nick the nack, the hack that held us back from the act,
    the track, the prime of the rack....
    reality still says your behind is black.
    While you ponder this decision,
    babies are dying in prison,
    while ignorance takes us on a head on collision,
    so roll your soul as death takes its toll
    on the lives of our young in population control.

    Praise Jesus, hail Mary, for it's all so contrary,
    like a child filled with wishes and a land filled with faries,
    as we dream of a heaven unlike nine eleven,
    roll your dice, take a chance, don't crap out on seven.
    I know you but you forgot who you are,
    the builders of pyramids and a bright shining star,
    a scientist and mathematician in diguise,
    who built black nations between the blackest of thighs.

    Now there's new name in the rap game,
    a culture bandit claiming your fame.
    What a shame the lame that begs to be tamed
    ain't skittles but eminem is his name.
    No dis to the hacker, the disfunctional rapper,
    who has a black backer, that we can't keep track of,
    Now we got rappers, cappers, snappers and clappers,
    ghetto artist who left all the people in back of,
    the wood, the hood, that does them no good,
    cause living large don't change your reality,
    that we're crying and dying from a white mentality.

    Blinded in black of night, blinded from lack of light,
    flying on whities kite, with self no where in sight...
    while you'll claim that this brothers insane,
    suffering from sh-- infecting the membrain,
    but that's what they said about malcolm and garvey,
    who we stabbed in the back just for laural and hardy.
    Now we're wearing red and blue like it's a nationalist kite,
    but like the american flag, in the middle is white,
    but in the sun, the fun, the long run of the gun,
    while we're killing one another till their job is done...
    sliming, timing, rhyming and griming,
    only finds us getting richer while we're slowly dying.

    For what good does it do to build houses of gold,
    if our morality is dead and we're selling our soul,
    in the hole, while they take control of the cast and the mold,
    that breaks the bowl, rolls the roll, while we're tricked by the troll...
    confusing right with wrong and wrong with right,
    life with death and death with life....
    while we from the motherland, perpetrate like the other man...

    Peace ​


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