Black Ancestors : Ludwig van Beethoven

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  1. UBNaturally

    UBNaturally Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Always wondered why I liked classical music and jazz when I really really started to "listen" to music... and unashamedly, I didn't care if anyone knew I listened to it.

    Now finding out that "Beethoven" has been "white-washed" like many other historical trinkets, one could ask if we need to continue to dis-cover how much else is fictitious and/or altered.

    Let's start off with something else that may reveal how interesting this is.

    Frederick Douglass

    I am sure many are familiar with who this is, and his significance in history.
    So let us take a look at a few images of him as viewed or pictured by a society of his era:

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    [​IMG] Uh, what is this we have here??

    Yes, this last image is "Frederick Douglass" as well. Interesting huh?
    Notice this is a "painting":

    Portrait of Frederick Douglass 1818-95
    By(attr. to) Hammond, Elisha1779-1882 Item Number: 24176997

    For sale at $250



    Now on to Beethoven....

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    Now look at these...

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    LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN (1770-1827), GERMAN COMPOSER

    Crown Prince Rudolf, 1873 (oil on wood), Lenbach, Franz Seraph von (1836-1904) / Wien Museum Karlsplatz, Vienna, Austria / The Bridgeman Art Library

    Ok... so let's look closer. Beethoven passes over in 1827, this piece of "art" is created in 1873?
    Not to mention this is a "younger version" of Beethoven.

    Red hair?

    Another...

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    And yet another...

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    This is said to have been a portrait of Beethoven at the age of 13, by an "Anonymous" painter.

    In summation, Beethoven on the left is an Afrikan-European.
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    This comes from Joel Rogers's book "Sex and Race Vol. III". You see Beethoven on the left and Walter White from the NAACP on the right who is even lighter than Beethoven because of the way he is painted. The manner in which Rogers came to his conclusion was that he got all the biographies of Beethoven that were written by people who knew him, and the physical descriptions from eyewitnesses of what Beethoven was like. Beethoven was called frizzy haired and in some cases he was even called ****** and The Black Spaniard. Beethoven was clearly a Black-European. This is thoroughly researched and reported in the appendix of "Sex and Race Vol. III". By the way, Mozart and Handel his teacher were Afrikan-Europeans.

     
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    Very good! This research can also be found in a work entitled: "What They Never Taught You In History Class", by Indus Khamit Kush. More research into a work by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima entitled: The Moors will reveal what a piano is and why our people created it. We did not create it for ourselves. We created it for YT people because they lacked the ability to play what a piano actually is...."a Harp that has been laid down in a case that connects to keys? Once again, thank you.

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    The 'plan' was to keep [people of colour] ignorant of the alphabet and the ability 2 read and comprehend. Now that we have these skills it is a wonderful thing to erase the cover ups and lies concerning all those giants who made a difference in the world by changing some aspect of it -thru ---in this case, music!

    Thx for sharing!
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