Black Spirituality Religion : Love to God is tested by money

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Love to God is tested by money

    Today money is the real instrument by which only one can test the real love. If somebody donates money for the sake of Lord's work, he has the real love to the Lord. Everyone gives money to his family because he has the real love to his family only. This is the fire test in which the real color of the love can be seen. Holy Jesus said that the heart of anybody lies there only wherever his money lies. Holy Jesus criticizes the rich man only when he does not sacrifice. His criticism of rich people applies only when the money is stored for selfish purpose even after acquiring the minimum needs. Earning money is not a sin. Infact one should always work and earn the money. But storing money is the sin. Therefore "earn and sacrifice" is the real spiritual aim.

    Ofcourse in the case of saints all their work is dedicated to the Lord only and they have sacrificed even the family bonds completely. Money is another form of the work, which is the fruit of the work. Therefore, it is the same whether one sacrifices his money or work for the sake of the work of the Lord. The work of the Lord is only to uplift the entire world in spiritual line.

    Therefore do not cast away your confidence, which has great reward (Hebrews 10:35).
     
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    Good assessment. The only problem is that the money that people give to the church is not a sacrafice to the lord but to the church. God would be infinately more pleased to know that you personally did something for someone rather than giving it to a mega church.

    Money is not the root to all evil. Ignorance is.
     
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    oh... I thought it was to buy the preacher a cadillac...

    this is why people think they can buy their way into "heaven"....

    we don't need to hold the "world"

    we need to hold ourselves up...........

    how was "god's love" messaged before the dollar dollar bill was invented...

    I guess before money... everyone had it all wrong....

    this don't make any sense.. that's all I'm trying to say....

    cause if i c the preacher of my nana's church in a caddy... and her lights or something get shut off.. best beleive he gon pay that bill.........

    I would agree that greed has no place for a spiritual person.......
     
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    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    God needs your money?

    God needs your money?

    Even if your son is well settled and is the owner of ten self-earned houses, you are sacrificing your house to your son only even though he is not in need of it. You are not sacrificing your house to an outsider even though he is in need of it. Therefore, need is not the criterion. Your sacrifice of your house is a spontaneous expression of your love towards your son. Similarly, in case of Satguru or God, the same concept is applied.

    The concept of Guru Dakshina comes as sacrifice of the fruit of your work to Satguru or God. This is the path and actually and this is only the path as said in Veda ‘Dhanena Tyagenaikena…’. This is a big bomb for all the intellectual selfish people who tried to misinterpret this text in opposite sense by inserting the word ‘na’ before the word ‘Dhanena ..’. But, the same concept was repeatedly stressed in Gita as sacrifice of fruit of work (Karma phala tyaga). These intellectuals could not misinterpret Gita because the concept was repeated.

    The main point is that the sacrifice of fruit is the real expression or sign of spontaneous true love. You are sacrificing all your wealth, which is the accumulated fruit of your work to your children. If you are not a householder or if you are a poor householder, atleast you will sacrifice the work (Karma sanyasa). In such case, your work, (a form of energy) is the fruit, (matter) since matter and energy are inter-convertible forms. Sacrifice of words, mental feelings and intellectual discussions is not done in the case of your children. Therefore, you yourself gave the proof of a real love and you yourself cannot contradict it. You are also sure that your love on your children is true and is not false. Therefore, I am extending your own concept to God.

    Your true love on God can be proved only by the sacrifice of work and fruit of work. Now, you cannot contradict your own concept and say that sacrifice of words, mind and intelligence to God is real love. You cannot say that since children need money, it is given to them and since God does not need money, it need not be given to God.

    If your wife or son opposes such sacrifice, there is some meaning because they are younger to you and are ignorant. But your old parents should not contradict your sacrifice to God because they have come to the end of life. They should sacrifice to God more than you. But, you must clarify with your parents whether they oppose the sacrifice to God or sacrifice to Satguru who may not be really the God. Before you do the sacrifice you must analyse the satguru and you must know what are the real signs of God from the scriptures. If the God is in that satguru, the satguru must show those real signs of God. You must refuse your parents if they oppose sacrifice to God, because parents are not greater than God. As long as God is not in the competition, parents are highest within the boundaries of the world. Therefore, if that Satguru is not God, he is only a man. Then, to sacrifice to a man you must take the permission of your parents. Therefore, the whole point lies whether the Satuguru you have selected is really God or not. You must concentrate on this point because any error in the analysis will make you cheated. I have already given a very detailed procedure for analysing the Satguru.

    Your path is perfectly correct, which is the sacrifice of work and fruit of work but your goal must also be correct. You want to reach Tajmahal, which is in Agra only. If you think that Tajmahal is in Madras, you path to Madras may be correct. But, due to error in the goal you cannot achieve the goal even though path is correct. Similarly, you must believe that God comes in human form and that particular human form must be identified. If you think that God is all pervading like space or God is in the body of radiation or God is in a statue or God is in every humanbeing, you have lost the address of the goal. It will be just equal to think that Tajmahal is in Delhi or Mumbai or Madras or Bangalore. You may be correct in the address of goal but if the parth is not correct, then also you have lost the goal. It is just like that you may know that Tajmahal is in Agra, but the path to Agra is not correctly identified. You may recognise the satguru, who is the real goal. But, if you sacrifice words, mind and intelligence only to Him, you cannot achieve the grace of God. You must not only recognise God hidden in a particular human form but also you must serve him by sacrificing work and fruit of work. Once you are sacrificing the work and fruit of work your sacrifice is 99%. In such case, you must sacrifice that 1% also to make it 100%. When you sacrifice food, which is your hard-earned money, why should you hesitate to sacrifice a jug of water, which is freely supplied by the munical tap? That 1% sacrifice is sacrifice of words, mind and intelligence.

    Your parents were your enemies in the previous birth. They will be your enemies in the future birth. Your bond with them neither existed before this birth nor will exist after this birth. Gowdapada, who is the Guru of Sankara said that which was not before and will not be after, cannot exist now also (Adaa vanthecha…). Sankara also told the same in His commentary (Yadanityam …). He stated that which is temporary is always unreal. A father and a son in a drama are not really father and son during the time of drama also. But the producer of all the dramas is always the owner and the bond with him is permanent and real. All the souls in this world are your colleagues only. Within the drama, the co-actors acting as parents may be regarded but the owner of the drama is permanent employer and should be regarded always. Therefore as long as God or Satguru is not identified, parents must be regarded within the limits of this world called as Pravrutti. But once God in human form is identified the entire Pravrutti should be rejected which is called as Nivrutti and only one bond with that God should remain as said in Gita (Eka bhaktih …).
     
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    my son want to play in the NBA/ or rather he will play......... so long as his health remains....

    but he has already promised me that when this accomplishment manifests he will never forget those less fortunate then he.......

    please .. he use to get 2 bucks from me everyday to buy all the kids ice creams in his class that didn't have money....

    he wants to know if I can buy his friend at school "pro-active" cause the other kids are mean to him and call him pizza face...

    me.. I let anyone that need somewhere to stay .. stay with me... it's been nice and it's been difficult at times...

    but I don't do it because anyone dictated that I should...

    it just feels like the right thing......

    I'm not much really gon speak on it...... because I think the greatest deeds are the ones that don't need any honorable mention.....

    there is life in giving....... and there are so many ways to give....

    a heart to give is a heart to live..........

    some of your terminology is over my head..

    but what I'm getting at is that giving is a personal ritual, and only as blessed as the givers intent......
     
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    The want for money is the root of all evil, the Holy Son has taught us in His great wisdom. Tests can come to us in many and any form, so money isn't something far-fetched in testing since men bond with it sometimes more than their own flesh and blood.

    If one can show their absolute devotion, love, and praise to the Almighty Father on High through faith to the Holy Son Who died for our iniquities, and was resurrected the 3rd day for our eternal salvation, and can show that money's weight doesn't weigh them down, then one can show true faithfulness to the Father, in the Name of the Son, our savior and King who is seated at the right Hand of the Father. Blessings!:)
     
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