Black Spirituality Religion : Lost Books of the Bible

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  1. Dual Karnayn

    Dual Karnayn Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    In Numbers 21:14 we read:

    "Hence it is said in the Book of the Wars of the LORD"




    And in Joshua 10:13 we read:

    "And the sun stood still,
    and the moon stayed,
    while the nation took vengeance on its foes.
    Is this not recorded in the Book of Jashar? The sun halted in the middle of the sky; not for a whole day did it resume its swift course. "



    I want to know where are these books.

    Where is the Book of Wars of the Lord and the Book of Jashar that the author is refering us to?

    And why were they left out of the Bible in the first place?



    Revelations 22: 19 says:
    "If anyone takes away from the words in this prophetic book, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city described in this book."

    Who in their right mind believing the Bible is the word of God would be so bold as to edit out entire books from it after reading this plain warning?
     
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    I got 16 of the ones they took out and when you read them you really understand why they took them out !

    Had they not took out the Book of Mary, there wouldn't have been anything to make Jesus special. For according to the Book of Mary, "Mary was born by Divine means through her mother Anna before Jesus was supposedly born through Divine means. Once they got rid of her book that only left Jesus being born through divine means...WHEN SHE WAS THE FIRST. THE HAND OF MAN JUST WON'T QUIT, WILL IT?!

    OH, and in the "Book of Adam and Eve", guess where they were exiled to after getting kicked out the garden? To the mountains and caves!!...and unlike the Bible, in the book of Adam and Eve, they DETAIL THAT @SS WHOOPING THAT CAIN PUT ON ABLE BECAUSE CAIN WANTED TO MARRY HIS OWN SISTER INSTEAD OF ABLE'S SISTER.

    THEY WERE EACH BORN WITH A TWIN SISTER AND IN ORDER TO KEEP IT FROM BEING DIRECT INCEST, ABLE WAS TO MARRY CAIN'S SISTER AND CAIN WAS TO MARRY ABEL'S SISTER...BUT CAIN'S OWN SISTER WAS MORE BEAUTIFUL AND THAT WAS WHO HE WANTED...SO HE BUST ABLE'S @SS.
     
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    White men...
     
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    That warning in Revelations refers only to that book--not to the bible or any part of it. I needn't tell you that when those books were written there was no bible so nothing in the bible refers to the bible itself.

    The bible was put together in the fourth century by the pagan Roman government in an effort to establish a state religion that they hoped would save their crumbling empire. All the books in their cannon were chosen and edited with those ends in mind.
     
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    This was a tradition in many Muslim cultures as well.

    Here's a Hadith on the very thing you just said:

    "Abu Hurairah narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: "The best of days on which the sun has risen is Friday. One this day Adam was created, and on this day he was descended to earth." (al Bukhari)

    Adam knew he bade farewell to peace and he left Paradise. On earth he had to face conflict and struggle. No sooner had one ended than another began. He also had to toil to sustain himself. He had to protect himself with clothes and weapons and protect his wife and children from the wild beasts. Above all he had to struggle with the spirit of evil. Satan, the cause of his expulsion from Paradise, continued to beguile him and his children in an effort to have them thrown into the eternal hellfire. The battle between good and evil is continuous, but those who follow Allah's guidance and should fear nothing while those who disobey Allah and follow Iblis will be damned along with him.

    Adam grasped all of this and with the knowledge of this suffering he started his life on the earth. The only thing that allowed his grief was that he was master of the earth and had to make it yield to him. He was the one who had to perpetuate, cultivate and construct and populate the earth. He was also the one who had to procreate and raise children who would change and improve the world.

    The pinnacle of earthly bliss was reached when Adam and Eve witnessed the birth of their 1st children, a set of twins. Adam was a devoted father and Eve a contented mother. The twins were Cain (Qabil) and his sister. Later Eve gave birth to a second set of twins, Abel (Habil) and his sister. The family enjoyed the bounties and fruits of the earth provided by their Lord. The children grew up to be strong and healthy young adults. Cain tilled the land while Abel raised cattle.

    The time arrived when the two young men desired life partners. This was part of Allah’s plan for mankind, to multiply and form nations with different cultures and colors. Allah revealed to Adam that he should marry each son to the twin sister of the other. Adam instructed his children according to Allah's command, but Cain was displeased with the partner chosen for him, for Abel's twin sister was not as beautiful as his own."



    You can find many things in the Koran and among Hadith that were well known to Jews and Christians of the past that are no longer known to the modern world and aren't mentioned in the Bible.
    Like the fact that we have guardian angels, and that Satan was kicked out of the presence of God for his arrogance toward man.

    None of this is mentioned in the Bible but for some reason is believed through out the West.
     
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    "The Classic Edit of All Times...."

    The 'classic goal' was to distort and destroy....the creators of the Bible.

    The Bible is only the 'inspired' word of God--written by the Ancient African black man ["The Africans Who Wrote The Bible" -- Dr. Nana Banchie {Alex} Darkwah].

    The information contained in this book of books was "already known" by civilizations prior to the Egyptian Civilizations. Each

    Etiopian
    Persia
    Assyria
    India
    China
    (keep in mind that these ancient civilizations were originally black)

    had the same/similar stories about:

    creation
    the great flood
    laws to govern man

    centuries prior to that 'Great Civilization Ruled by Black Men" [http://melanet.com/clegg_series/] came into existence; and loooooooooooog before the so-Called Jews {who came out of Africa, not Ur of the Chaldee} capitalized on the 'idea' to claim its contents as their own invention/creation.


    1. Hellenized Jews in Egypt [the source] confiscated, compiled, and edited the bible right off the walls [literally] of the pyramids.

    2. Next, the Greeks had a hand in transposing, tranliterating, distorting, and destroying any evidence of the real authors.

    3. From here "the Church" gained control of the book. Paul Marcion [in his own words] compiled a collection or work 'similar to' what is now called the New Testament. His work was refuted and his teachings found unacceptable because he discounted all the teachings, dogma and information of the Old Testament.

    The Church was determined to create a canon of clarity after Marcions' heretic rantings: hence the New Testament. And, so in the end--Paul Marcion had influence over the Church by inspiring it to create a work that did not previously exist.

    From here the story takes legs and walks. Latin was preferred over Greek. Churchmen and priest protected the contents of the old and new and separated the lay people from the word. To further hammer and beat a different rhythm into being.
    Sometime during the Middle Ages, Shakespeare got a hold of the bible and added the 'thees and thous' to create an aristocratic air thus producing the King James Version in which on the very rich had accessibility.

    The Hellenized Jews, the Greeks, the Church and eventually the Europeans were ['in fact'] bold enough to edit, change, transpose, conceal, overwrite, remove dots and tittles to turn this piece of knowledge into an object of control while dehumanizing/mis-identifying a whole ethnic culture ...:picture:
     
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    There exist an entire army of people that are against GOD and HIS Anointed. They are called Heathens / Gentiles but there is a specific group who only desires to replace the GOD of the Old Testament. It is these same people that have destroyed the Temple of GOD over and over and over and over. The early or ancestral Anti-Messiah people understood that in order for them to reign in the earth they could not allow the True Messiah to be, thus they invented one, Jesus. The original Servants of Jesus understood that nothing can stop the Will of GOD. That is why they show Jesus in Revelations as eventually handing Power over to who would be the True Messiah.

    Rv 2:
    26: And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
    27: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
    28: And I will give him the morning star.

    Those passages lead us to Psalms 2.

    Ps:2:9: Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

    In Revelations it is a corrupted view of the True Messiah. The True Messiah will rule through knowledge, wisdom and the love of GOD. This is a depiction of the True Messiah.

    Isa:11:4: But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

    Servants of Jesus have not the ability to perceive one that reigns in the earth through Peace. Servants of Jesus are artisans of war and weapons of war, that’s why they can only perceive the True Messiah as a man of war, death and killing. The religion of the New Testament creates and entire Army to be against the True Messiah. In the Old Testament they are called Gog. If GOD has Spoken of them, then they must be and they must exist. In the constant struggle against Gog many of the Books you referred to were destroyed causing only the main body to remain.
     
  8. Dual Karnayn

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    Are you sure?

    The creators of the modern Bible that most protestants use are King James and his subjects.
    The creators of the Catholic bible are the Roman scribes of the Nicean Council.

    Not a Black man in sight on either occasion.





    I believe some of the information the Bible contains was already known to ancient civilizations but some of it wasn't.

    For example, the things you read about in the New Testament like Roman occupation, Easter, and Greek customs couldn't have been known by those ancient civilizations because they had long passed when these things became traditions.


    That's why we must be careful in saying "The Bible" was written by the Black man.
    Clearly it's a collection of different books written at different times.






    My sister, who told you that Jews came out of Africa?






    What you said has been very enlightening and I agree with all that I can understand.

    But my problem is if you acknoldge how much ancient work has been edited, re-weritten, changed, and corrupted into a work now known as "The Bible"....how can you possible consider it the original work of the Black man or hold validity in it?

    Without the original source, how do you know ANYTHING you read in the Bible is actually true?






    MP

    Who do you believe the True Messiah is?
     
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    Keita...

    Interesting...Where exactly can one find this collab?
     
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    In the book of Ezekiel 28:11-18 its writings talk about the King of Tyree (Ethbaal) and Satan (Thoth) in conjunction with each other.
    “You were the model of perfection,
    Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
    You were in Eden,
    The garden of god…
    You were anointed as a guardian Cherub…through your widespread trade you were filled trade. (Guardian Cherub is a Guardian Angel)
    Your heart became proud
    On account of your beauty,
    And you corrupted your wisdom…
    So I threw you to the earth [Also see (Luke 10:18 “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven“)
    So I made a fire come out from you”-Ezekiel 28:11-18
    Thoth was made of fire and a god of wisdom, money, and magic just to name a few. He also invented Laws.
     
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