Black Spirituality Religion : Looking for Info About the Orishas Aja and Erinle

[Babasola]

Universities don't deal with the religious line(s)





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It has more to do with learning the culture. This can best be taught by competent and respected leaders in those institutions. No sellouts

 

[chuck]

It's also about our young black students choices of the private and public colleges they attend too..

fyi

 

[Barry Irving]

Universities don't deal with the religious line(s)





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...University is the prime place where you can get a credential associated with any religion. Then all you have to do is find a University who will hire you. Most people go to college with no intent. There fore they don't get the education that they need. They get what is available or close. You can do infinitely better with a degree that you design and you get qualified mentors to grade it and cooperate with University professors on degree requirements. You also pay for that.

...most people ( generally speaking ) get advanced degrees for prestige, which is legit but expensive. Especially if they don't work in the field that their degree is in. I have a BFA...yet my colleagues have been PHD's and Masters holders...mostly Masters - teachers. In my work, I teach them academic techniques and points of view. I teach kids too. I had ten years of program work by the time I was 27.

...a BFA is a practitioners degree. To get a masters is unnecessary unless I want to teach college or grade school. A masters will cost you $100,000 for tuition in my case...my years of practice is equal to a masters in the free enterprise zone, but not necessarily in academia. I teach about Diaspora culture, so religion has to be part of that, But I can't
proselytize. I have to keep it in perspective to history and political / social evolution. That's what they teach you in grad school.

...BFA's are Terminal degrees. You can't go higher without adding specific educational components that relate to your professional path....like in my case, Art Therapy, Art ( based )Education, sociology, each one of those components gear you for certain professional work. You can get a general degree in Theology and have a dual in African studies or World religions. That would make you an authority on World religions...you can work in the system where you fit in or you can be an independent educator and design you own programs that you sell in he education market place.

If you are contracting with the government, the sociology degree is what will get you both substantial contract referrals and authority to make decisions that can affect a persons life. You can start that in a program that you design in college and use in your field education work. You may have to travel to another city or country to do that...that's how much you need to research and know in order to teach what YOU think is necessary - and do it in a mainstream professional setting

 

[chuck]

...now that I read your comment closer I see that you may be talking about College level?

Depends on the school and their history.

Always listening and learning...

Black Studies is usually loaded with references to the Civil Rights, the Black Power Movements and even the Black Arts Movement.

Hmmm

It's a dated era that is important, but it needs to go beyond the US...

We are diaspora people.

True

Also important is the loss of the Arts, drumming and a true connection to regional / tribal history...rather than a romantic one.

Your personal opinions...

Let's just agree to disagree about that too...

Originally my first thought from memory was...(1st comment)...it'll never happen...I've been teaching for some decades and you can't even mention meditation in some schools without having a religious protest from some parent who is against Religion in Schools...

Some folks reveal their resistance to change and growth...

...We are a fundamentally religious people historically.

I agree...

Knowledge of this tradition says a lot about our history because we African Americans, So. American, Caribbean Hispanics, Caribbean Africans, and Cubans all have a similar or the same genetic root.

I agree with that too...

...the problem in America is that many of us buy into the negativity that places Africans against African Americans and vice versa.

Not true of all of us...

But true of too many of our various relatives etc...

No one really knows what we will become 100 years from now...then we will have 250 years in "peak" Slavery and 250 years out of Slavery.

The Jews lost 6 million in their genocide. They are not over it yet and it hasn't been nearly 150 years.

...no one can say how soon a race should recover from such barbarity.

There are 150 years of institutional affectation for us and backlash from the other side.

Please do stay on topic...

Whites will never be secure with a growing race who has a mission to over come.

That's their problem!!

...Orisha is a religion ( and way of life ) that is about survival and renewal...theology and philosophy, medicine and creativity...it is about being reborn.

Back on topic...

...funny thing ( not so funny )...Muslims and Christians would consider Orisha to be demonic - outside of Africa.

Your personal opinions...

Present more veriable facts etc...

In W. Africa Muslims and Orisha practitioners live side by side

. Orisha there in the cradle is considered to be an Islamisized ( may not be a proper word ) culture.

In W. Africa and around the world, Orisha ritual specialists have their biggest support among the Christian and Muslims...

Many of the New World practitioners are Catholic Yoruba...which doesn't exist in Africa.

You claim a lot of things!

...Orisha has every metaphysical attraction from Wicca to Voudun to Ghanian Akan Religion, to Pentacostalists, to Rastas to Buddists.

Hmmm...

About 30 years ago I met a Muslim Brother just out of prison and he had a Kufi and Muslim Robe on with Elekes which are the sacred beads of the Deities.

Any good teacher takes refresher courses...

fyi

 

[Barry Irving]

It's also about our young black students choices of the private and public colleges they attend too..

fyi

Any good teacher takes refresher courses...

fyi

...thanks for the analysis...one might think that I was actually addressing you...