Black Spirituality Religion : Looking for Info About the Orishas Aja and Erinle

[Kemetstry]

...might help to understand the African continental / regional aspects of Orisha worship. What we get here is African Caribbean, Brazillian ( to some extent ) and Hispanic. The history is different. In west Africa there are over 4,000 aspects and manifestations (roads) of Orisha. In the Americas and the Caribbean there are 21.

Maybe this needs to be an aspect of the black studies curriculum





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[Barry Irving]

Maybe this needs to be an aspect of the black studies curriculum





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...now that I read your comment closer I see that you may be talking about College level?...Depends on the school and their history. Black Studies is usually loaded with references to the Civil Rights, the Black Power Movements and even the Black Arts Movement. It's a dated era that is important, but it needs to go beyond the US...we are diaspora people. Also important is the loss of the Arts, drumming and a true connection to regional / tribal history...rather than a romantic one.

Originally my first thought from memory was...(1st comment)...it'll never happen...I've been teaching for some decades and you can't even mention meditation in some schools without having a religious protest from some parent who is against Religion in Schools...We are a fundamentally religious people historically. Knowledge of this tradition says a lot about our history because we African Americans, So. American, Caribbean Hispanics, Caribbean Africans, and Cubans all have a similar or the same genetic root.

...the problem in America is that many of us buy into the negativity that places Africans against African Americans and vice versa. No one really knows what we will become 100 years from now...then we will have 250 years in "peak" Slavery and 250 years out of Slavery. The Jews lost 6 million in their genocide. They are not over it yet and it hasn't been nearly 150 years.

...no one can say how soon a race should recover from such barbarity. There are 150 years of institutional affectation for us and backlash from the other side.
Whites will never be secure with a growing race who has a mission to over come.

...Orisha is a religion ( and way of life ) that is about survival and renewal...theology and philosophy, medicine and creativity...it is about being reborn.

...funny thing ( not so funny )...Muslims and Christians would consider Orisha to be demonic - outside of Africa. In W. Africa Muslims and Orisha practitioners live side by side. Orisha there in the cradle is considered to be an Islamisized ( may not be a proper word ) culture. In W. Africa and around the world, Orisha ritual specialists have their biggest support among the Christian and Muslims...Many of the New World practitioners are Catholic Yoruba...which doesn't exist in Africa.

...Orisha has every metaphysical attraction from Wicca to Voudun to Ghanian Akan Religion, to Pentacostalists, to Rastas to Buddists. About 30 years ago I met a Muslim Brother just out of prison and he had a Kufi and Muslim Robe on with Elekes which are the sacred beads of the Deities.

 

[Kemetstry]

...now that I read your comment closer I see that you may be talking about College level?...Depends on the school and their history. Black Studies is usually loaded with references to the Civil Rights, the Black Power Movements and even the Black Arts Movement. It's a dated era that is important, but it needs to go beyond the US...we are diaspora people. Also important is the loss of the Arts, drumming and a true connection to regional / tribal history...rather than a romantic one.

Originally my first thought from memory was...(1st comment)...it'll never happen...I've been teaching for some decades and you can't even mention meditation in some schools without having a religious protest from some parent who is against Religion in Schools...We are a fundamentally religious people historically. Knowledge of this tradition says a lot about our history because we African Americans, So. American, Caribbean Hispanics, Caribbean Africans, and Cubans all have a similar or the same genetic root.

...the problem in America is that many of us buy into the negativity that places Africans against African Americans and vice versa. No one really knows what we will become 100 years from now...then we will have 250 years in "peak" Slavery and 250 years out of Slavery. The Jews lost 6 million in their genocide. They are not over it yet and it hasn't been nearly 150 years.

...no one can say how soon a race should recover from such barbarity. There are 150 years of institutional affectation for us and backlash from the other side.
Whites will never be secure with a growing race who has a mission to over come.

...Orisha is a religion ( and way of life ) that is about survival and renewal...theology and philosophy, medicine and creativity...it is about being reborn.

...funny thing ( not so funny )...Muslims and Christians would consider Orisha to be demonic - outside of Africa. In W. Africa Muslims and Orisha practitioners live side by side. Orisha there in the cradle is considered to be an Islamisized ( may not be a proper word ) culture. In W. Africa and around the world, Orisha ritual specialists have their biggest support among the Christian and Muslims...Many of the New World practitioners are Catholic Yoruba...which doesn't exist in Africa.

...Orisha has every metaphysical attraction from Wicca to Voudun to Ghanian Akan Religion, to Pentacostalists, to Rastas to Buddists. About 30 years ago I met a Muslim Brother just out of prison and he had a Kufi and Muslim Robe on with Elekes which are the sacred beads of the Deities.

It's still history.





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[Barry Irving]

It's still history.





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...of course it is, but history that we need must be researched as a part of our life and style. We can't pass on what we don't know and the public schools will always have a separation from religion of any kind. It's law...public schools must be non sectarian. If you want a religious education you have to go private or Catholic. Our history can't be taught the way we need it in school...Our s needs to be nuclear and in some cases racially exclusive. You can only do that privately.

...Most teachers are White females...that's a reality...next is White Males. African American male teachers in public school is something of a rarity in most places IMO. It was every where I've been... I've been teaching adults since I was 17.

 

[Kemetstry]

...of course it is, but history that we need must be researched as a part of our life and style. We can't pass on what we don't know and the public schools will always have a separation from religion of any kind. It's law...public schools must be non sectarian. If you want a religious education you have to go private or Catholic. Our history can't be taught the way we need it in school...Our s needs to be nuclear and in some cases racially exclusive. You can only do that privately.

...Most teachers are White females...that's a reality...next is White Males. African American male teachers in public school is something of a rarity in most places IMO. It was every where I've been... I've been teaching adults since I was 17.

Universities don't deal with the religious line(s)





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