Brother AACOOLDRE : Lincoln's views of the Dred scott case

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  1. AACOOLDRE

    AACOOLDRE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Lincoln on the Dred Scott Case

    By Andre Austin

    Last night I heard a Republican presidential candidate pump up Lincoln saying he was against the Dred Scott case and would have tried to overthrow it. He equated this with the abortion, and gay rights being overthrown.

    I look at the full context of Lincoln in order to understand his stand on Equality as it concerns blacks. Take a look at the bleak vision of Lincoln who supported:

    1. Colonization

    2. Deportation

    3. Segregation

    4. Graduation of Emancipation

    5. No Amalgamation of the races

    6. Compensation of masters owning property of slaves

    Now that we established a foundation lets explore why Lincoln believed that the declaration of Independence included blacks as “All men are created Equal”. Go read Lincoln’s speech to the black colonization Committee and his debates with Stephen Douglass . Then you will discover that Blacks were not the equal with whites to serve on a jury or to marry a white woman. He was only equal with a white on an animal level to hunt and gather food for his own subsistence with pay. Lincoln viewed us as different from whites on religious grounds too and felt whites couldn’t get along until we got out of their hairs.
     
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    AACOOLDRE Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Note:

    “Certainly the Negro is not our Equal in color-perhaps not in many other respects; still in the right to put into his mouth the bread that his own hands have earned, he is the equal of every other man, white or black”-Speech at Springfield, Illinois july 17, 1858. This is the mind set of many today in 2015.

    Lincoln’s fifth debate with Stephen A Douglass: “that Judge Douglass, and whosoever like him teaches that the Negro has no share, humble though it maybe, in the declaration of Independence”. This was a reference to “All men created equal”.

    Lincoln’s Eulogy on Henry Clay, president of the American Colonization society: “He (clay) considered it no demerit in the society, that it tended to relieve slave-holders from the troublesome presence of free Negroes”.
     
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    "Then you will discover that Blacks were not the equal with whites to serve on a jury or to marry a white woman."

    Why is marrying a white woman specifically part of the conversation? I'm pretty sure that miscegenation was the crux of that argument yet access to white women seems to take precedent. It's very pathetic that the goal of attaining a white woman is even a consideration in this discussion that encompasses all aspects of Black people's lives.
     
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    It was part of lincoln's converstion not mine.
    I'm not attracted to white woman.
     
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    Black Phoenix Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Gotcha! I just thought it was odd to mention.
     
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