Black People : Let's Go There! Religion, Mythology, Legend, Folklore, and/or History

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  1. UBNaturally

    UBNaturally Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    When we look at our selves, we attempt to identify with that which cultivates us into something that we desire to become.

    Role models, Leaders, Emperors, Pharaohs, Presidents, Ministers, Dans, Chiefs, Generals, Masters (leaves open for interpretation), and on and on.

    So when we look to a written and/or oral version of stories, we often seem to consider how we fit in to each of these.

    Take for instance the last movie/film that one has seen, and recall how the attempt to recognize empathy with certain characters. This is a natural desire that comes from most screen plays or stories, as they evoke the need to become a part of it in some way.

    That brings us to the discussion of the five nuances of prescribed cultivations.

    1. Religion - Strong passionate adoption of cultivation stories and ideas into a social structure

    2. Mythology - Loose recognition of cultivation stories that are accepted as art and creative prose

    3. Legend - Recycled fables and tales of events and persons that do not require them to be fiction or non-fiction, just exceptional.

    4. Folklore - Similar to old wives' tales, as they sometimes present messaging and questions about personal perceptions and experiences.

    5. History - Father Time, as history is more relative to "Truth" than any of the others, as nobody can see it, there is no beginning nor end, and all of it cannot be contained within any one particular vestibule for others to witness... only mere fragments.

    But if we look at these five nuances, which of them are essentially one in the same and which of them have contrasting elements... and why?

    Abraham - Brahma
    Noah - Nun
    Musa - Mohammed,
    Siddhartha - Yahshua,
    Mithra - Apollo,
    Baal - Aleister Crowley
    Genghis Khan - Julius Caesar,
    Paul Bunyan - John Henry,
    William Shakespeare - James Baldwin

    Presented these to show a connection via known writings and "History" with counter parts that find relation within the stories and existent content.

    Are we honest with ourselves when it comes to how we view our own thoughts, and do we feel strong and passionate enough about understanding that which we don't, even at the risk of putting some of ours to the side momentarily to listen to another story?

    When the indigenous custodians of the lands are erased from memory, does history speak for them or do we speak for history?
  2. UBNaturally

    UBNaturally Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    A list of different cultivations within and upon the globe:

    1. American
    2. Asian
    3. Australian
    4. Austrian
    5. Balkan
    6. Belgian
    7. Brazilian
    8. British
    9. Bulgarian
    10. Canadian
    11. Chinese
    12. Croatian
    13. Cuban
    14. Danish
    15. Dutch
    16. Eastern
    17. Egyptian
    18. Estonian
    19. European
    20. Finnish
    21. French
    22. German
    23. Greek
    24. Icelandic
    25. Indian
    26. Israeli
    27. Italian
    28. Japanese
    29. Latvian
    30. Lithuanian
    31. Macedonian
    32. Montenegrin
    33. Nordic
    34. Norwegian
    35. Polish
    36. Portuguese
    37. Russian
    38. Scandinavian
    39. Serbian
    40. Slavic
    41. Slovenian
    42. South African
    43. South Korean
    44. Soviet
    45. Spanish
    46. Swedish
    47. Swiss
    48. Ukrainian
    49. Uzbek

    • African

    Consider those numbers, then consider "African culture" has within itself many cultures, as "African culture" is a blanket concept that removes the complex diversity within lands, regions and villages.


    Mbeere (Kenya)

    The Mbeere believe in a High God, Ngai, said to live atop Mount Kenya. Ngai created humanity and all else in the world. Little mythological elaboration about the activities or manifestations of Ngai has developed. He stays at a distance from the lives of people, although they periodically offer sacrifices to secure his blessing for rain and abundant livestock. More intrusive and less welcome in human affairs are ancestral spirits bringing illness and death. They may act for an understandable reason, or they may punish capriciously. The spirits inhabit hilltops, the bush, or other areas beyond human habitation. People try to keep them at bay by right conduct and by not disturbing areas where they are believed to dwell.

    Rukuba (Nigeria)

    The Rukuba believe that the prosperity and the well-being of the land and people rests in the physical person of the village chief, who is a scapegoat. If prosperity fails, or if drought, locust invasions, plagues, defeats in war, or deep dissensions between the villagers occur, the chief is deposed and replaced to remedy the situation. His bad part is sacrificed by proxy at regular times and one of his alter egos is also killed in the two prominent ritual villages, the beneficial effect being shared by the other villages as well. The High God is beyond reach, and ancestors play almost no role.

    Lugbara (Northeast Zaire/Northwest Uganda)

    The Lugbara recognize a single deity, Adroa (also known as Adro), who created the world and its inhabitants. Two Heroes then formed Lugbara society itself. Beneath Adroa are two categories of spiritual beings: the spirits and the ancestors. Spirits are known as adro, a word of complex meaning that essentially refers to a source of power. The spirits are of many kinds and have different degrees of power over human beings. First are the numberless spirits of sickness and disaster, their motives unknowable to the living (although female diviners are thought able to make some contact with them). Second are the spirits that inhabit the bodies of the living, together with the soul. The spirit in the body leaves at death, dwelling in the forests with an immanent aspect of the Adroa. These spirits take the form of small human beings, and both they and Adroa kill on sight.

    Ancestors who left male children are "ghosts" that send sickness to their descendants as response to disobedience. Sacrifices of meat, blood, and beer are offered to the ghosts individually, by elders. The ancestors without male children form a collectivity to which grains and milk are offered, as do the spirits.

    Nuer (Sudan)

    As among the neighboring Dinka, religious thought and practice is a dialogue with a creator divinity the Nuer call "Kowth", which has a variety of meanings, depending on the context. The Nuer believe that all life comes from Kowth and returns to the same divinity at death. They pray for health and well-being to Kowth, offering sacrifices of cattle in hopeful expectation that their sentiments may be realized. Whereas many individuals become diviners and healers (tiet), there is no organized cult or hierarchy of religious functionaries. Nuer religion is decidedly "this-worldly" in orientation; they do not imagine a heavenly abode awaiting them upon death.

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